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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 06:05 AM Original message |
The Numbers in Hillary's Favor |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 06:06 AM Response to Original message |
1. But, Obama wins ALL 50 states!!! |
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polpilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 07:05 AM Response to Reply #1 |
30. Exactly! And a Pro-War, Pro-NAFTA, McCain apologist Can't/Won't Win. Good point. |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 07:15 AM Response to Reply #30 |
40. Yee Haw!!!! |
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Arkansas Granny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 06:11 AM Response to Original message |
2. This is a very interesting perspective and one I'm sure won't be lost on the SDs. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 06:39 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. You're welcome! |
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DemVet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 06:12 AM Response to Original message |
3. People keep forgetting that.. |
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ihelpu2see (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 07:05 AM Response to Reply #3 |
31. People keep forgetting that this is NOT the General election. He is up in |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 07:31 AM Response to Reply #31 |
45. Obama supporters keep forgetting that the number of states won does not count. |
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Asgaya Dihi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 07:45 AM Response to Reply #45 |
50. 50% was the minimum |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 08:00 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Most Floridians believe the RNC did it correctly. 50% and they have no problems today. |
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Asgaya Dihi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 08:26 AM Response to Reply #51 |
58. Have it your way |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 08:48 AM Response to Reply #58 |
63. Sorry. You're the one that brought up the 'playing chicken' and 'laughing' premise. |
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Asgaya Dihi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 08:57 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. That would probably be because |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. When I said it 'is merely based on more petty subjective rantings' I did not mean you. |
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Asgaya Dihi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 10:10 AM Response to Reply #66 |
69. To a point you're right |
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ihelpu2see (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #45 |
75. sorry, if you include FL and MI Obama still leads in Popular vote and Delegates. |
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GarbagemanLB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 06:14 AM Response to Original message |
4. The SDs won't go against the guy who can bring in more money than Hillary and more |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 06:21 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Seeing that most of the state caucuses will not 'pledge' delegates until June |
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crankychatter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 06:38 AM Response to Original message |
6. keep scraping |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 06:40 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Pathetic response. You Obama supporters cannot let a positive Hillary thread go by without trashing |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 06:44 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. They've made it perfectly clear that they don't need us in order to win in November. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 06:49 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Judging by Obama's poor numbers in Florida, I think most thinking Floridians heard him |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 06:51 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Yeah, but we don't need Florida, he wins every other state. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 06:54 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. And the totaly irony is that it should be the other way around after 8 years of neocons. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 06:56 AM Response to Reply #8 |
21. No, what's pathetic is to say that Obama's pledged delegate count |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 06:57 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. The truth is that Obama's 'pleged' delegate count is inflated. Nevada tried to tell you. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 07:02 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. gad. you really are reduced to meaningless garble |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 07:12 AM Response to Reply #26 |
36. The truth is because Obama's numbers reflect more caucuses. About Nevada: |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 07:33 AM Response to Reply #36 |
47. sorry, the conventions in June are really just a formality |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 07:37 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. I never even indicated I thought the results would change. Nevada said they were not 'pledged' ... |
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hill_win_2008 (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 07:02 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Kidding right? |
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kevinmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 06:47 AM Response to Original message |
10. "Hillary Clinton is winning and Obama has been soundly defeated" |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 06:50 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Please remove that 'paid for by hillary' sign. |
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EnviroBat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 08:24 AM Response to Reply #14 |
57. Here's a sign for you. Like this one better? |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 08:28 AM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Are you haveing a hard time sticking to the topic of this thread? |
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EnviroBat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 08:39 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Yep. |
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ampad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 10:00 AM Response to Reply #57 |
68. LOL |
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C_U_L8R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 06:50 AM Response to Original message |
12. Perhaps there is a place in the world these numbers might work |
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hill_win_2008 (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 06:53 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Neither can win it now |
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C_U_L8R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 07:00 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. That's actually not totally true |
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hill_win_2008 (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 07:04 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Will he walk on water? |
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C_U_L8R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 07:06 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. No, of course not. |
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hill_win_2008 (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 07:08 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. That's all I'm saying |
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C_U_L8R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 07:14 AM Response to Reply #33 |
38. cool. |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 06:50 AM Response to Original message |
13. States like California, NY, Mass are Clinton *AND* Obama states for the GE...false argument.... |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 06:52 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. What about Ohio, Michigan and Florida? Would McCain win against Obama by winning these? |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 06:57 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. MA hasn't been looking good for Obama in head to head matchups. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 08:43 AM Response to Reply #22 |
62. From the crosstabs at your link: Obama loses independents , +50 & seniors, males... |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 06:52 AM Response to Original message |
16. more irrelevent crap. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 06:55 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Please go poop somewhere else. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 06:57 AM Response to Original message |
24. The Primary is about Delegates and states lost in primaries can be won in the GE |
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Umbram (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 07:05 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. But..but...but...the new goalpost is always relevant! (nt) |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 07:08 AM Response to Original message |
34. Faulty logic, sorry |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 07:09 AM Response to Original message |
35. You very conveniently left out this part of the article. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 07:14 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. It wasn't 'very conveniently'. Obama supporters scream 'copyright infringement' if I post more. |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 07:20 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. So you chose to post the part that makes your argument look the best. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 07:26 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Wrong again. I chose parts from the original page. You drilled down to another page for yours. |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 07:32 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. No, we were both quoting from the same US News article at the link you posted. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 07:34 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. 'Thus the Clinton campaign could argue...' is not on the page I quoted from. |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #39 |
71. got something for you... |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 07:13 AM Response to Original message |
37. i would hope that before commenting, people would read Barone's entire article |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 07:21 AM Response to Original message |
42. I can understand your hope... but last I looked, no one has a crystal ball. |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 07:23 AM Response to Original message |
43. k&R |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
52. Not to mention, the Clinton campaign is the best positioned to |
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olkaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 08:06 AM Response to Original message |
53. The delusion gets deeper and deeper.... |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
54. It's about the delegates. Keep dreaming though. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 08:27 AM Response to Reply #54 |
59. The truth is Obama cannot win 2024 (or whatever the # is now) in the primaries. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #59 |
77. The truth is that Clinton will have to convince an awful lot more SDs than Obama will |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
55. One big problem... |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 08:22 AM Response to Original message |
56. So now we've gone from counting delegates, to counting popular vote, to now counting population? |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #56 |
72. We should also extrapolate the numbers to account for pregnancies |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Hillary also leads in states with the largest numbers of puppies |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
64. More Mathmatical Spin from Camp Hillary |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
67. This continues the confusion of EC votes versus the Republican nominee... |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
70. I'm against torture, |
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SeaLyons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
74. Hopefully the SD's will be |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
76. An idiotic argument, and here's why |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
78. California had the largest number of Bush voters. |
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