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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 06:20 AM
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Hillary's Tax Returns : Has Anyone Seen Them Yet ?
Just wondering.....
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 06:22 AM
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1. The taxman has seen 'em, I'll betchya.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 06:23 AM
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2. Saw 'em, on a milk carton
(but I'm wondering, don't you have to file them first before you can release them?)

dg
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 06:26 AM
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3. She hasn't yet filed her 2006 return?
That's quite the extension....
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 06:27 AM
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4. or 2005, 2004, 2003, 2002, 2001....
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 07:02 AM
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14. Just a wild guess
would explain why she hasn't released 'em though.

dg
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 06:28 AM
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5. I don't want to.
Or Obama's.

Or McCains.

I think a person's tax statements should be private. Just like their sex lives. Neither has anything to do with how good a president they'd be.

Come to think of it.... I never saw JFKs, or LBJs, or Carter's either.

I am pretty sure noone asked about FDR's.

This is a BS issue.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 06:30 AM
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6. Actually, it is important. It says a lot about a candidate if they are unwilling to be open with the
ir tax returns.
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 06:33 AM
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7. not when your running for President...
It's called transparency. Where did all that money come from? When she loaned her campaign 5 million dollars, where did that come from?

Is the Clintons wealth coming from dirty money, or is it clean?

Bill and Hillary Clinton's
Recent Meteoric Rise in Wealth

http://thememlingindex.com/hillary_clinton_net_worth-wealth.html Where did all this money come from?
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 06:40 AM
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8. Like I said...
Edited on Thu Apr-03-08 06:44 AM by susankh4
I could care less.

I don't look at my dentist's tax returns either. Or my car mechanic's.

I don't show my tax returns to my clients. And my DH doesn't show his to his students.

This "issue" is nothing more than a distraction from the real issues..... like the war.... which Mr. McCain and Mr. Leiberman will be spreading throughout the mid-east if we Dems don't stop attacking one another.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 06:41 AM
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9. and which your gal authorized.
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 06:47 AM
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10. actually it's different when you running to be
Edited on Thu Apr-03-08 06:48 AM by SunsetDreams
President of the U.S. The American people have a right to know if there is the possiblity of Dirty money being funneled in the Government, in exchange for possible favors.

Your right, I could care less about my dentist, or my car mechanic. As long as my teeth or my car gets fixed with quality service, that's all that matters with me.

But handling the funds of the U.S. Gov't is different. Being bound to someone because they gave you dirty money for a favor, so that you throw your judgement out, with respect to U.S. Policy.

I want to know about that upfront. It's an issue that could effect ALL issues.
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tyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 06:50 AM
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11. You or your parents
tax returns are required to get a friggin student loan...or a home loan.

Why not to "get" POTUS?
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 09:00 AM
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24. Cuz it's not a loan?
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 06:55 AM
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12. Actually, conflict of interest can exist in any profession....
Dentists/ docs/ car mechanics can (and do) accept "freebies" from companies that want them to sell me up the river. Lots of prescription drugs are pushed in this way, for instance.

Nevertheless, when I hire someone I do so based on their track record. Not on their personal income tax records.

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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 07:00 AM
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13. You're right...however
Edited on Thu Apr-03-08 07:02 AM by SunsetDreams
The most important profession in this country is POTUS.

This isn't about hiring someone for a company, that may effect your companies clients, or your employees in the hundreds or thousands.

This is about hiring someone to run the country, whose policies and decisions effect millions and millions of Americans, in fact ALL of us.

I will not risk putting someone in there who has dirty players behind the scenes, effecting public policy.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 09:06 AM
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25. "Most important?"
Edited on Thu Apr-03-08 09:32 AM by susankh4
Depends on where you are. Doesn't it? If you have a brain tumor, and are going under the scalpel in an hour.... someone else is "most important." You, I hope, will have hired a competent neurosurgeon. (Irregardless of how his tax returns look. Or who he slept with last night.)

My point is this. There was a time when we did not ask about FDR's, JFK's or LBJ's tax returns. We did not care about their sex lives either. These kinds of things are distractions from what really matters.

In the case of POTUS.... a track record of doing what's right for the American people matters. In the case of a neurosurgeon, a track record of good surgical technique is what matters. And, really, when you get right down to it.... performance is ALL that matters. For either of them.

Keep your eye on the ball!

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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 07:08 AM
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16. But the American public does not vote for your dentist
and the American taxpayers do not pay for your dentist's campaign/advertising. When you want to be a public servant, you have to be public about your money. period The public is properly entitled to this information.
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 08:03 AM
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23. I don't know if you can say this....where did money come from?
Edited on Thu Apr-03-08 08:04 AM by earthlover
If she got sleazy money from sleazy folks....this could influence her as president to do sleazy policy things for sleazy folks. Imagine if we found millions of dollars coming from Halliburton or interests in an oil pipeline through iran....

Of course, the Clintons could do something to eliminate any worries about that....they could release the tax records! But....they haven't.

I am sure that when/if they do, there will be things omited from them.

And their apologists will say that is none of our business....
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 07:53 AM
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20. Felony Conflict of Interest isn't a non-story
no politician or government executive should be exempt from transparency

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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 09:09 AM
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27. That's a harsh indictment
if you haven't any evidence. Isn't it?
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Shae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 10:00 AM
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32. I don't think that crankychatter
was accusing Senator Clinton of felony conflict of interest. The possiblility is there for any candidate running for high office to have hands in unethical or illegal cookie jars, and for this reason, candidates should provide their financial records. I believe that Senators Obama and McCain have already provided their tax returns.
No one is accusing Ms. Clinton having nefarious financial dealings, but the fact that she refuses to provide her tax records leads to speculation.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 07:57 AM
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22. So if a candidate is a paid consultant to an industry group
and hasn't disclosed this to the public, you think that's a private issue and nobody's business?

I don't know if that's the case for Hillary (or Bill), but until they disclose their financial information, we really don't have any way of knowing it isn't, and so people will continue to speculate.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 09:07 AM
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26. Yet when Hillary was running against Rick Lazio in 2000 she felt it was important to see his returns
and even made a huge public spectacle out of his failing to release them - "What is Rick Lazio hiding?"

So, no, using her own logic, she owes it to voters to release her tax returns.
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 09:19 AM
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31. How people make their fortune and who they are sleeping with are 2 entirely different things.
There are honorable, honest, legitimate ways to make money...

... and there are underhanded, dishonest, illegal ways to make money. Ways that involve conflict of interest, secret wheeling and dealing, and using your ELECTED POSITION to profit.

AND THAT is very much the public's business. I believe releasing your tax returns should be a REQUIREMENT for running for public office.

Wanting those to remain secret? That indicates to me you're afraid of what they contain.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 07:04 AM
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15. They're not finished editing out Bill's half
soon though... 4/15 she said
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 07:09 AM
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17. Last week, the Clinton campaign said they would be released in about a week
So, we've hit about a week. Does "about" mean 2 years???
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 07:51 AM
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18. She cant release them lest she wants to go down in the polls.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 07:53 AM
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19. What's stopping the Clintons from editing out things on their Returns?
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 07:54 AM
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21. Nor her funds raised last month
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 09:10 AM
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28. you mean the "evidence you can Xerox"?
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dancingme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 09:11 AM
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29. 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005 and 2006??
still not released. What is Hillary hiding?
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JayFredMuggs Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 09:14 AM
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30. Six years of income
Edited on Thu Apr-03-08 09:15 AM by JayFredMuggs
From sources she doesn't want the American public to know about.

Now THAT's a pretty big leap of faith for ANYONE to ask Americans to make.

Don't most US Senators release their tax records before elections? Hillary's last election was 2006
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