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liberalpress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:14 PM
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The 44th President
John McCain.
John S. MCCain
President John S. McCain.

Learn it, love it, use it.

That's the way it's going to be in 2009, and we can't blame this one on voter fraud, rigged machines or Republican Dirty Tricks. We have no one but ourselves to blame for this one.

We were handed the White House in 2009. Economic troubles, endless war, disappearing Middle Class, job loss -- all issues understood by the people for a change, and all being blamed on the current President and his minions.

The people were even growing tired of Republic run government, the Republicans had a slate of weak candidates, and the base, unable to find a candidate conservative enough to suit them, was dissolving.

All the Democrats needed was a candidate. Somebody who could fire up the base while also being attractive to Independent and some disenfranchised, old school Republicans.

For the first time in a long time, the Democrats had a whole slate of viable candidates, representing the various schools of thought in the party, any of whom could be counted on to do a stellar job of governing.

Then everything fell apart. The candidates left are from the same wing of the party, both are the leaders of a cult of personality, each attractive to one-half of the party. They are locked in a battle that shows no sign of stopping before their fight inevitably grinds to a halt with a delegate vote in Denver in August.

By then it will be far to late. John McCain is doing everything right. Being cuddly on Letterman, slowly regaining conservative support, and campaigning against Democratic Party ideals and philosophies.

What are we doing? Behaving like fifth graders, throwing spitballs, throwing insults, throwing the election. The circular firing squad has got to disband and somebody has to cowboy up and concede.

The more time we spend throwing rocks at each other, the more comfortable the other side gets with McCain.

Unless Obama or Clinton takes one for the team, Democrats,at least in the White House, will be a story our grandchildren will find as quaint as horseless carriages and analog television.




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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:17 PM
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1. democrats are throwing the election.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:02 PM
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13. Obama has to withdraw...He can't beat McCain!


another gutter ball!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:33 PM
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25. So full of shit, so little time!

44th President of the United States of America and the people!


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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:18 PM
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2. candidates fighting to win a primary race doesn't mean McCain is a shoe-in
Edited on Thu Apr-03-08 12:18 PM by tigereye
people are fired up to get rid of Bush when his term is over. They won't elect another Bush and no Dem candidate will let McCain off that hook.



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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:22 PM
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3. It's the primary season. A hard fight does not mean doom in Nov. nt
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:37 PM
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4. goddess forfend we should actually have a primary race, right down to the wire, where
Edited on Thu Apr-03-08 12:38 PM by niyad
the people in the majority of states can express their preference.

by the way, metaphysically speaking, constantly focusing on something you supposedly don't want to happen keeps feeding it energy. so, thank you, but I WILL NOT talk about pres. mccain, or any other crap I don't want to see happening.
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StrongBad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:52 PM
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5. This sort of post is the last thing we need
In order to achieve something it's first necessary to believe that it's possible to achieve it. If you want to kick off the general election season with such a defeatist attitude I don't think I'm alone in saying that you should probably post elsewhere.

No offense to you personally it's just that threads like this serve no real purpose at all.
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liberalpress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:01 PM
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9. Do you not thnk..
.. we should be spending our time and resources by fighting the real enemy instead of each other? OK, I'm wrong. It's important the people who want to be the leader of the free world behave like petulant adolescents who can't their eay on the playground.

Meanwhile McCai is behaving like an adukt.

An addled, demented, evil adult, but still ...
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StrongBad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:13 PM
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18. Well I disagree that they're behaving like children and that McCain is acting like an adult
The fact that McCain is being perceived as more "adult" (which I disagree with in the first place) has simply to due with the fact that he can fly under the radar of media scrutiny until the official GE season ramps up.

Likewise, I think to describe C & O as acting like children is also misleading as they are in the fight for their lives for the highest office one could possibly attain. I would expect this to be a knock down drag out brawl and for neither side to pull punches.

Once the focus is on our eventual nominee and McCain, I think the stark contrast will still be heavily in our favor.
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liberalpress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:16 PM
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21. Meanwhile..
... McCain has a six-mot PR lead
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:54 PM
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6. Chicken Little! Do you need a hug?
:grouphug: It will be OK. There, there.
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:09 PM
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28. chicken little
or cassandra.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:59 PM
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7. You will be glad to learn that you are wrong.
There will be plenty of time to expose McCain for the addled, angry warmonger that he is. And you're also wrong about his being "cuddly on Letterman" - all I saw was real bad comedy timing by a complete amateur. McCain wasn't that good either.
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liberalpress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:02 PM
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12. LOL
We need a smiley for a rimshot!
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:12 PM
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17. Yep.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:14 PM
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19. Thanks Hugh!
Hadn't noticed that one before. Say hi to the Mole People for me. :)
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:01 PM
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8. baaawwwwwww!
How about getting to work and helping end this thing?

Jesus ever-loving christ, there are some serious crybabies on this site.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:02 PM
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10. BS
It'll be fight for Nov but the Dem will win.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:02 PM
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11. Bullshit
More wanna-be political writers with their crystal balls.
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liberalpress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:04 PM
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14. Wrting about
two afaid-to-be-left-leaning Democrats without any balls
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:06 PM
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15. Sour Grapes
Get over it. Either of our nominees will beat McCain.
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liberalpress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:08 PM
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16. Assuredly among Democrats.
but you need Indys and a few GOPers to win, and of that, I am not so sure
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:22 PM
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23. McCain is a weak candidate
McCain doesn't even have support of the far right. The same GOP talking-heads who were hanging off G-Dub's balls during 2000/2004 all seem to hate McCain because he wont pander to them.

Looks like Obama does very well among Indies. I don't think either of our candidates needs any of the GOP vote to win.
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liberalpress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:32 PM
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24. I work at right-wing radio sation...
...here's the strategy. Obama and Cinton are being painted as socialist-communist candidates. Since most talk show listeners wouldn't know a communist or socialist if it bit them on the bottom, this is being accepted.

All of this makes McCain a more acceptable-looking choice to their base.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:15 PM
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20. ah, look for the silver lining
If indeed we do get 4 years of McCain, I would put down a lot of money that I don't have to bet that we would never see another pubbie president in my lifetime. Sometimes I wonder if that might be worth it.

Given the state of things, particularly the economy, I see McCain as the pubs sacrifical lamb. Someone they didn't believe could win, and who they would hope to be able to distance from if he did(he was never really one of us, remember when he was going to become Kerry's vp?).
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:17 PM
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22. McSame Will Lose In A Landslide To Obama - Book It
:hi:
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Thepricebreaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 07:15 PM
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31. If it does to Denver - Any Democrat will get crushed. We cant let that happen.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 07:19 PM
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33. The flights to Fantasy Island are full.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:34 PM
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26. Let's see...we'll still be in Iraq, we'll be in a recession, gas prices will be higher...
yeah, John and Cindy might as well start packing for 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue right now.
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liberalpress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 07:05 PM
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29. You follow the issues
Most don't. If they did would we have had second Bush term or even a first?

"The McCain guy kinda reminds me of my grandpop. My grandpop would be a great president. "
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:34 PM
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27. Go get some fresh air and a little sun on your face.
You're sounding like a defeatist and there should be no defeatists here.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 07:12 PM
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30. Before posting duh threads like these here is a reminder
just incase you have got carried away during this primary season.





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Thepricebreaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 07:15 PM
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32. I been saying this a long time. Everyone thinks We will just walk in The Whitehouse .. This hurts us
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 07:19 PM
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34. You couldn't be more wrong.
Obama will be your next president.

Lets be honest now, you have to be impressed at how many new/young voters he has brought...and how he reaches into the center for independents and moderates
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