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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:33 PM
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Memphis


"Now, what does all of this mean in this great period of history? It means that we’ve got to stay together. We’ve got to stay together and maintain unity. You know, whenever Pharaoh wanted to prolong the period of slavery in Egypt, he had a favorite, favorite formula for doing it. What was it? He kept the slaves fighting among themselves. But whenever the slaves get together, something happens in Pharaoh’s court, and he cannot hold the slaves in slavery. When the slaves get together, that’s the beginning of getting out of slavery. Now let us maintain unity. …

"Now the other thing we’ll have to do is this: Always anchor our external direct action with the power of economic withdrawal. Now, we are poor people, individually, we are poor when you compare us with white society in America. We are poor. Never stop and forget that collectively, that means all of us together, collectively we are richer than all of the nations in the world, with the exception of nine. Did you ever think about that? …. That’s power, right there, if you know how to pool it.

"We don’t have to argue with anybody. We don’t have to curse and go around acting bad with our words. We don’t need bricks and bottles …..

"Now there are some practical things we can do. …we’ve got to give ourselves to this struggle until the end. Nothing would be more tragic than to stop at this point, in Memphis. We’ve got to see it through. And when we have our march, you need to be there. Be concerned about your brother. You may not be on strike. But either we go up together, or we go down together. ….." –Martin Luther King, Jr.; I See the Promised Land; Bishop Charles Mason Temple; Memphis, Tenessee; April 3, 1968.

It was 40 years ago tonight that Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr., delivered one of the most powerful speeches in American history. Most progressive and liberal democrats remember the haunting ending of that speech, in which Martin spoke about the threats of death that he was under. Yet he was not backing down.

It is important that we take the time to not only reflect on the life and death of this great man, but to consider his message. The above quote, while not as well-remembered as the end of the speech, was the central message: we need unity. We need to stick together. We need to find common ground. "Either we go up together, or we go down together."

Tonight, CNN has a two hour special on Martin on at 9 to 11 pm est. There will be other programs and articles, as tomorrow is the 40th anniversary of his death. I’m sure that other DUers who are my age are thinking about the events of that long-ago time.

We hear people say they wish that Martin was here today. I think that way sometimes, too. I enjoy listening to my recordings of his speeches, reading the texts of his books, and the many biographies that I have. I wonder what might have been, if he and Brother Malcolm had been allowed the time to combine their efforts, as that was the direction they were headed. Yes, I wish Malcolm were here today, too.

There is a powerful scene at the end of the Spike Lee movie, "Malcolm X." Nelson Mandela is standing in the front of a classroom of school children. One by one, they say, "I’m Malcolm X!" And they are telling the truth.

If we want to know what it would be like if Martin were here today, we need only make an honest and sincere effort to put our minor differences behind us, and to try to create a united front. "You need to be there. You may not be on strike. But either we go up together, or we go down together."
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:34 PM
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1. Why do you people keep putting up pictures of scary black men???
:)
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:52 PM
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3. Strange to think
that 40 years ago, many people thought King was a threat to our nation's security.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 04:31 PM
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8. I remember those days well.
After all... it was just another "yesterday."

I think about Dr. King quite often. He did a profound service to my soul. I could never thank anyone enough who's done that for me. It's beyond words.

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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 05:12 PM
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9. Thank you.
There are a lot of people who remember being strongly influenced by King.
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Symarip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:35 PM
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2. Do you ever listen to Sirius radio, H20 Man?
From 5 - 8 pm EST they have a great show by Reverend Mark Thompson on Sirius Left (the liberal channel). It's called Make It Plain and I find it highly informative. He's been doing MLK themed topics all week. It's definitely worth a listen to if you or anyone gets the chance.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:53 PM
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4. I have not,
but it sounds interesting. ("Make I Plain" was one of Malcolm's favorite sayings, and is the title of a wonderful book about him.)
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Symarip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 04:09 PM
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6. It's a very challenging show
I can't think of any other adjective that could properly describe the show's tone and content. Tonight, I believe they're broadcasting from the motel room in which Dr. King was shot 40 years ago tonight. Yesterday, they had people call in and describe where and what they were doing when they heard the news of MLK's death. It was quite interesting to hear the different answers, with alot depending on people's individual demographic such as ethnicity or place of resident.

I can't wait to get out of here so I can tune in on the way home from the daily grind.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:56 PM
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5. 40 years baby 40 long years
and how proud would he be today.

I think about him all the time.

26 years old when he started the Selma Bus Boycott.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 04:22 PM
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7. I think that he
would be very proud today.

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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 08:02 PM
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11. Medger, 4 little girls, Malcom I think they would all be amazed
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 05:37 PM
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10. By Paul
Blackbird singing in the dead of night
Take these broken wings and learn to fly
All your life
You were only waiting for this moment to arise

Blackbird fly, Blackbird fly
Into the light of the dark black night.

Black bird singing in the dead of night
Take these sunken eyes and learn to see
all your life
you were only waiting for this moment to be free

Blackbird fly, Blackbird fly
Into the light of the dark black night.

Blackbird singing in the dead of night
Take these broken wings and learn to fly
All your life
You were only waiting for this moment to arise,oh
You were only waiting for this moment to arise, oh
You were only waiting for this moment to arise

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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 08:16 PM
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12. In memory of MLK, U2's Pride (In the Name of Love) video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7COntXhPcI


"Pride (In The Name Of Love)"
One man come in the name of love
One man come and go
One man come he to justify
One man to overthrow

In the name of love
What more in the name of love
In the name of love
What more in the name of love

One man caught on a barbed wire fence
One man he resist
One man washed up on an empty beach
One man betrayed with a kiss

In the name of love
What more in the name of love
In the name of love
What more in the name of love

Nobody like you
Somebody wants to
Somebody to you

Early morning, April four
A shot rings out in the Memphis sky
Free at last, they took your life
They could not take your pride

In the name of love
What more in the name of love
In the name of love
What more in the name of love
In the name of love
What more in the name of love
In the name of love
What more in the name of love




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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 03:32 AM
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13. K&R
Edited on Fri Apr-04-08 03:34 AM by myrna minx
U2 Pride: In the Name of Love

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k04KzgYRKrE

U2 MLK:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEuM-C_M4H8

Sleep
Sleep tonight
And may your dreams
Be realized
If the thunder cloud
Passes rain
So let it rain
Rain down on me
Mmm...mmm...mmm...
So let it be
Mmm...mmm...mmm...
So let it be
Sleep
Sleep tonight
And may your dreams
Be realized
If the thundercloud
Passes rain
So let it rain
Let it rain
Rain on me
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:08 AM
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14. Part of Martin Luther King's last speech
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:13 AM
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15. Jimi Hendrix on King's Death"
("House Burning Down")

YEAH
SAID HEY
HEY SAID THAT
HEY
LOOK AT THE SKY RUNT A HELL-FIR RED
SOMEBODY'S HOUSE IS BURNIN'
DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN
DOWN DOWN YEAH

WELL I ASKED MY FRIEND
WHERE IS THAT BLACK SMOKE COMIN' FROM?
HE JUST COUGHED AND CHANGED THE SUBJECT
AND SAID UH, WELL I THINK IT MIGHT SNOW SOME
SO I LEFT HIM SIPPIN' HIS TEA
AND I JUMPeD I MY CHARIOT AND RODE OFF TO SEE
JUST WHY AND WHO COULD IT BE THIS TIME
YEAH YEA YEAH YEAH
SISTERS AND BROHERS DADDIES MOTHERS STANDIN' AROUND CRYIN'
WHeN I REACHED THE SCENE THE FLAMES WERE MAKING A GHOSTLY WHINE
SO I STOOD ON MY HORSE'S BACK AND I SCREAMED WITHOUT A WHACK
I SAY OH BABY WHY DID YOU BURN YOU BROTHER'S HOUSE DOWN?

HEY
HEY
HEY GO GET ME SOMETHING
HEY
LOOK AT THE SKY TURN A HELL-FIRE RED, LORD
SOMEBODY'S HOUSE IS BURNING
DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN
LOOK AT THE SKY RUN A HELL-FIRE RED, LORD
SOMEBODY'S HOUSE IS BURNING
DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN

WELL SOMEONE STEPPED FROM THE CROWD
HE MAS NINETEEN MILES HIGH
HE SHOUTS WE'RE TIRED AND DISGUSTED
SO WE PAINT RED THROUGH THE SKY
I SAY THE TRUTH IS STRAIGHT AHEAD
SO DON'T BURN YOU SELF INSTEAD
TRY TO LEARN INSTEAD OF BURN
HEAR WHAT I SAY
YEAH YEAH

SO I FINALLY RODE AWAY
BYT I'LL NEVER FORGET THAT DAY
CAUSE WHEN I REACHED THE VALLY
I LOOKED WAY DOWN 'CROSS THE WAY
A GIANT BOAT FROM SPACE
LANDED WITH EERIE GRACE
AND CAME AND TAKE ALL THE DEAD AWAY

HEY
HEY
HEY
HEY WHAT'D I SAY
LOOK AT THE SKY TURN A HELL-FIRE RED LORD
SOMEDBODY'S HOUSE IS BURNING
DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN
LOOK AT THE SKY TURN A HELL-FIRE RED LORD
SOMEDBODY'S HOUSE IS BURNING
DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN
LOOK AT THE SKY TURN, LOOK AT THE SKY TURN A HELL-FIRE RED
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:13 AM
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16. We Shall Overcome
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:14 AM
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17. Video with John Edwards
Edited on Fri Apr-04-08 04:17 AM by SunsetDreams
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz2iGCwLIHo&feature=related We Shall Overcome

"The world needs to see our better angels"~John Edwards
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:21 AM
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18. whenever Pharaoh wanted to prolong the period of slavery in Egypt, he had a favorite, favorite form"
Edited on Fri Apr-04-08 04:22 AM by DerekJ
Hello H2OMAN,
Just a quick note, the idea that ancient Egypt used slavery has been debunked several years ago by many Egyptologists. They discovered a site that showed that the ones they thought were slaves had homes, medical care, families, and so on. In short, they were regular people. I read few articles about that several years ago. I can try to find them for you if you want.

Edit: few typos
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:31 AM
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20. Martin's speech
would contain errors that would be in the context of what people believed at that time. I would appreciate if at some point, you did find those articles -- I have read and watched some programs that were along the lines that you describe, but am always interested in more information on those topics.

I think Martin's speech is still of value, in the sense that while those that John Lennon called "working class heroes" and "slaves" are too often losing their homes and are without medical insurance, they are too often divided and pitted against one another.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 05:18 AM
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26. Yah, I understand, sorry.
I'll get those articles for you, however, I am tired right now, and can barely put a sentence together. So if you don’t mind, I will have to do that tomorrow.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 05:48 AM
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28. Sure.
No hurry at all.

I posted a King essay on GD a few minutes ago. I think you will like it.
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:23 AM
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19. I Have A Dream
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:31 AM
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21. Thank you
for linking these! Much appreciated.
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:41 AM
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23. your welcome :)
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:40 AM
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22. WHOAAA This is Prophetic, I hadn't heard this one before:
Even though he is talking about the war in vietnam in this video, it soooo applies to today IMO. WOW!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrpqnZYAB6w
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:50 AM
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24. "A Time to Break Silence"
Those are parts from Martin's April 4, 1967 speech at the Riverside Church in NYC. It was the speech that marked his public attempts to unite the civil rights and anti-war movements. He was mistreated terribly afterwards. Some of his closest friends have said that the negative reaction -- not only from the administration, but some other civil rights leaders -- caused Martin to become depressed in his final year. He had struggled with depression since his teens.

The speech, also known as "Beyond Vietnam," has been noted as marking the split in the civil rights movement that led to the neoconservative movement in the United States.

I think it was the greatest speech in US history.
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:59 AM
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25. I agree...
This was a great speech, just the little that's on that video. Martin Luther King was right about that war, and he is right about this one today.

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Melynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 05:46 AM
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27. Memphis is in the Final Four
Forty years after Dr. King's death. Coincidence?
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 06:29 AM
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29. Free at last! Free at last!
Thank God Almighty, I'm free at last!

He was a great one.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 06:45 AM
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30. On MSNBC next (7:43 am est)
They are going to play RFK's speech from 40 years ago. It's powerful.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:13 AM
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31. ...
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 12:15 PM
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32. K & R
:thumbsup:
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 02:37 PM
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33. Freedom
Freedom
Freedom
Freedom
Freedom
Freedom
Freedom
Freedom
Freedom

Sometimes I feel like a motherless child
Sometimes I feel like a motherless child
Sometimes I feel like a motherless child
A long way from my home

Freedom
Freedom
Freedom
Freedom
Freedom
Freedom
Freedom
Freedom
Freedom
Freedom

Sometimes I feel like I’m almost gone
Sometimes I feel like I’m almost gone
Sometimes I feel like I’m almost gone
A long, long, long, way, way from my home

Clap your hands
Clap your hands
Clap your hands
Clap your hands
Clap your hands
Clap your hands
Clap your hands
Clap your hands
Hey…yeah

I got a telephone in my bosom
And I can call him up from my heart
I got a telephone in my bosom
And I can call him up from my heart

When I need my brother…brother
When I need my mother…mother
Hey…yeah

Ritchie Havens
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