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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:36 PM
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Gov. Rendell: There's 50% About Barack Obama We Don't Know Yet

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/gov-rendell-the.html

<snip>

Rendell joined us for the ABC News Shuffle Podcast, which you can listen to on iTunes or HERE.

Some highlights from our 37-minute chat:

"I think that Hillary Clinton wears very well, the more people get to know her I think the more they like her. I've seen that transformation with working-class stay-at-home women who last year at this time were very cool to Hillary. But when we were at the St. Paddy's day parade at Pittsburgh and Scranton they were screaming for her like she was a rock star."

...

That said, Rendell said, once Obama becomes the nominee the Republicans will unleash the hounds.

"You don't think the Republican 527s are going to leave this stuff alone do you?" he asked. "You don't think you're going to see 527 ads with the explicit comments Rev. Wright said, about Rezko and the land deal? You're going to see 527 ads about all of those things."

It's not as if the race will be nicer if Clinton is the nominee, I suggested.

"It won't be nicer," Rendell responded, "but what there is to construe negatively in Sen. Clinton's background is out there so I think she'll suffer less slippage than Sen. Obama would and that's why I think she's a stronger candidate."

I took issue with the assertion that everything about Clinton is "out there" -- she hasn't released her IRS returns from the past seven years, there are library documents that remain unreleased, we don't know who the donors to the Bill Clinton Library are.

"I will grant you that, let's say that there's 10% about Hillary Clinton that we don't know yet, I will grant you that, but I would say there's also about 50% about Barack Obama that we don't know yet," Rendell said.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:37 PM
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1. This is guy Rendell is an Asshole
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:59 PM
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29. ummm... he is right actually. Obama is still not totally vetted.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 04:04 PM
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33. Pretty much is.. but hilary's lies keep comin'
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easy_b94 Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:37 PM
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2. Please get another Dem to run for Gov of PA
Edited on Thu Apr-03-08 03:38 PM by easy_b94
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:42 PM
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17. Amen to that, he is pissing a lot of Dem's off here now (n/t)
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 04:23 PM
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40. Do you live here in PA? If not, MYOB.
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easy_b94 Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 04:25 PM
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42. I need to live there so i can make things right
Edited on Thu Apr-03-08 04:25 PM by easy_b94
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 05:43 PM
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58. Gov. Rendell for VP
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 05:40 PM
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56. He is one prick that needs changing
I can sympathizes with those PA Dems.

This guy is killing them, showing his true

color.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:38 PM
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3. Yes Ed, you're right. Thanks to Clinton and guys like you no one knows..
....that 50% of Obama that is as white as you are.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:38 PM
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4. why the hell is he talking to ABC? I thought he loved Fox News because of how fair and balanced they
are
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noel711 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:39 PM
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5. Look here, Fast Eddie.. Hillary has had a 30 year advantage
in regard to name recognition.

The fact that Obama is so far ahead of the game
in such a short time shows how hungry the electorate
is for change.

And the longer the public sees the difference between
the two of them, the stronger Obama's base.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:39 PM
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6. Rendell is a lying POS.
He was on MSNBC earlier, claiming Hillary had won "big" in Texas. They are desperate.
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 04:53 PM
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47. Wow, did nobody correct him on this?
Seriously, the MSM isn't doing their job very well on the Texas thing are they?
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 05:25 PM
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51. Of course they did not correct him.
Why let facts take away from the lie they are perpetuating that it's not over.
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:37 AM
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60. Silly me...
...expecting them to be reasonable and factual. :rofl:
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:39 PM
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7. Hillary wears well? When did he "wear" her? nt
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:39 PM
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8. So Rendell's assuming Obama has skeletons in his closet? If he
did, I'm quite sure the Clinton camp would be rattling them by now. :eyes:
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:41 PM
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14. Why should they?
Let the GOP do it.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:43 PM
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20. Because they're obviously desperate? If they had the ammo, they'd
use it. Don't kid yourself.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:51 PM
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23. Clinton doesn't need to
Once all the stuff gets into the hands of the super delegates, Clinton doesn't have to "use" anything.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:52 PM
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24. "Once all the stuff gets into the hands of the super delegates"
more details please...
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:54 PM
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26. What stuff are you talking about? Do tell. nt
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 05:45 PM
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59. I don't know why Ignored gets so many responses
Edited on Thu Apr-03-08 05:45 PM by sniffa
:shrug:




















































These posts are made as a PSA that it's ok to use ignore. There's no need to get bogged down in useless bickering, etc.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:57 PM
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28. You're great purely for the comedic factor
I mean you must be joking, because no one is this delusional. When you put Obama next to Clinton, he's a boy scout.
:rofl:
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 04:20 PM
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36. Sheah. The SDs are going to take a look
at a campaign that's in debt, dead in the water regarding fundraising and increasingly negative and desperate, and back that campaign.

I used to pay good money to be able to hallucinate like that.

- as
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 05:18 PM
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50. LOL! The good ole days! nt
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:39 PM
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9. This guy is a poisonous piece of shit
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:40 PM
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10. Yeah.... we know all about his "black" half, thanks to HRC and Co.... the white half - not so much..
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:40 PM
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11. Feeding the ignorance ...
Create doubt, so Hillary can win over folks like this:

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/04/02/obamas_lama_problem/

Of Obama, Duser said: "I'm not crazy about voting for a colored guy, but that's not why I don't support Obama. I'm not prejudiced. I just like Hillary."

A couple tables over, Jean Fetterman, a foster grandparent, said of Clinton: "Oh, I love her. She's a very intelligent person, and she has her husband who went through this."

She scoffs at the idea of voting for Obama: "I don't want to be a Muslim!" She looks dubious when told Obama is Christian. "Then why did he go see what's-his-name over in Iraq, that Lama?"


This certainly explains a lot of what I've seen on DU these past few weeks.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 04:45 PM
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46. "I'm not crazy about voting for a colored guy, but that's not why
Edited on Thu Apr-03-08 04:51 PM by Kool Kitty
I don't support Obama." Sure. Sometimes ignorance is staggering. The Lama in Iraq?
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:40 PM
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12. Gov. Rendell: There's 50% about Barack Obama we don't know yet but we have our private eyes
Edited on Thu Apr-03-08 03:44 PM by Bigleaf
out there digging around for all the dirt we can get on this guy. Believe me, we're trying.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:40 PM
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13. Ed's right about the 527's and the RW
What they can't find, they will lie about and it won't matter to many voters if it is true or not. And then there is the good Rev Wright with god damn america playing 24/7 Voters don't give a shirt about tax returns, they do care about their country and what people say about it. But then, Obama's made of teflon so all of this shouldn't bother him
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:41 PM
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15. The talking point du jour with a hint of blackmail. nt.
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:42 PM
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16. Wow, what an endorsement.
"It won't be nicer," Rendell responded, "but what there is to construe negatively in Sen. Clinton's background is out there so I think she'll suffer less slippage than Sen. Obama would and that's why I think she's a stronger candidate."

That is the weakest endorsement I have ever heard.

Congratulations Mr. Rendell.
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:42 PM
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18. "the more people get to know her I think the more they like her"
Where the hell is he getting that idea? She hasn't gone into a state and increased an early lead this entire season, the more time she's spent campaigning in states she's lost leads. He sure can't be talking about delegates, who have been leaving her in droves lately.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:43 PM
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19. "the more people get to know her they like her"!!?? that's why her approval is at 36% nationally?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:44 PM
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21. CLOSED GOVERNMENT has been brought to you by Nixon-Ford-Bush-Clinton-Bush.
TEN PERCENT, MY ASS, Ed!

Jackson Stephens relationship alone would take up 50% of what Americans and Democratic voters DON'T KNOW about the Clintons.
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:44 PM
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22. Will Ed backtrack and help the nominee in a few months?
If he's a good Democrat, he will. I don't think he's a particularly good Democrat, though. Why do Hillary and surrogates constantly attack Obama, instead of highlighting her strengths and what she can do for our nation?
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PylesMalfunction Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:53 PM
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25. He's said he'd back Obama...
Edited on Thu Apr-03-08 03:54 PM by PylesMalfunction
if he's the nominee. The exact term he used was that he would "bust a hump". {snort...giggle} For some reason that cracks me up. :D Because at times, I'm 12. :D

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1727469,00.html

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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:57 PM
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27. I don't get him
He is the most sour advocate for his candidate I have seen. He is becoming less likable personally with each appearance. Why the nasty behavior, I wonder?
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appleannie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:59 PM
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30. Hey Ed. The 50% we know about HRC we don't like. We will take our chances on what we don't know.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 04:00 PM
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31. His choice of "50%" is interesting...
50/50 huh? Does anyone else think that's interesting?
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 05:27 PM
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52. Translation: "He's 50% black! Don't vote for the scary black man!"
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 05:39 PM
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55. My thoughts exactly.
:thumbsdown:
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 04:02 PM
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32. Absolutely!!!!! Read this link!!!
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 04:05 PM
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34. i can't wait till the PA vote is through...so this rendell asshat can go back to local TV
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 05:42 PM
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57.  Rendell for VP
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 04:16 PM
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35. He's a covert Muslim communist lesbian vegan.
STFU Rendell you ignorant ASS.
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kwenu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 04:22 PM
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37. We know enough about Hillary to say we don't want her!!!
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 04:23 PM
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38. My Governor, Ed Rendell - Another guy who "knows"...
the amount of unknown unknowns that we don't know. He just better hope nobody starts looking into HIS unknown unknowns - a lot of people actually DO know them.
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Symarip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 04:23 PM
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39. I love when politicians make up figures and statistics
By the way, I'd say there's a 80% chance that Rendell made this shit up off the top of his head. Hell, if I'm not wrong, I might just be right about this. Trust me.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 04:24 PM
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41. Rendell is 100% asshole
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 04:39 PM
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43. I even heard rumors that he's black
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 04:42 PM
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44. I heard a rumor that he fathered TWO BLACK CHILDREN
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 04:44 PM
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45. Anyone who says Fox is an objective news source has ZERO credibility
in my book. :+
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TTUBatfan2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 04:54 PM
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48. Sinclair
Edited on Thu Apr-03-08 04:55 PM by TTUBatfan2008
I think this is what they're getting at. It's interesting to me that a lot of Sinclair's attacks and complaints about Obama are straight out of Clinton's talking points.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 04:57 PM
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49. Tell Rendell if he knows something, why doesn’t he tell us?
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 05:31 PM
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53. Fast Eddie and his diarrhea-of-the-mouth moments. n/t
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 05:38 PM
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54. Translation: "We know about the WHITE half of Obama, but what about the BLACK half?"
Ed Rendell once again reminding Pennsylvania voters that some of them "don't vote for blacks", lest they forget that and actually consider Obama.

Ed Rendell with another shout-out to using racism for political advantage.

Ed Rendell once again playing up the tension and resentment that exists between rural and urban Pennsylvania.

I still can't believe I pay for this guy's salary. :cry:
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:44 AM
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61. actually, we don't even know if there IS a Hillary in there anywhere,
an actual person, separate from the Hillary machine and its deceitful, manipulative, all-surface sheen.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:50 AM
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62. Umm.. no, Hillary is NOT totally "Vetted"...
She keeps generating more things that need to be vetted. The Bosnia Sniper Fire story was not brought out until a couple of weeks ago - and do you think a 527 won't have a good time with that?

There may be a lot about Obama we don't know - but most know he's an honest guy. We already know Clinton IS NOT.. so that leaves a lot to still uncover.

But, if by the OP you mean, "Hillary has already been proven to be a liar and a phony, so anything else that comes out about her will be expected".. well, then that's perhaps true. But, it's also not going to help get her elected in a GE. The majority of this country is NOT going to vote for someone who has the ethical problems that Clinton does.
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