jenmito
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Thu Apr-03-08 08:15 PM
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It's just getting SAD now that even non-partial pundits/journalists are calling Hillary "desperate" |
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and saying it's getting pathetic that she's now going after PLEDGED delegates, that her own SDs are giving her signals that if certain criteria aren't met they could switch sides or signal it's over, and that she seems to be in it for HERSELF even at the cost of the PARTY. I'm now talking about Dan Abrams and his panel.
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Thu Apr-03-08 08:19 PM
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1. They don't sound too optimistic regarding her chances or tactics. |
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People are noticing those tactics; how could SDs not notice?
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Thu Apr-03-08 08:28 PM
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Thu Apr-03-08 08:40 PM
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9. The problem is how will they respond. |
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Some supers like to hold on to their neutral status until a presumptive nominee is around or all the way to the convention.
Clinton getting worse and worse is likely causing additional pressure for the supers to end this.
One thing is for sure tho. The supers are NOT going to overturn the pledged delegate count. The resulting chaos in the party is not worth it.
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Thu Apr-03-08 08:42 PM
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Thu Apr-03-08 08:28 PM
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5. I think SDs are painfully aware: I imagine they're getting hounded by the Clintons |
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persistently in back channels.
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Thu Apr-03-08 08:26 PM
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2. This is especially significant because Abrams used to be in the tank for Hillary. |
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Thu Apr-03-08 08:34 PM
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6. Exactly. And so are the SDs talking this way. n/t |
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Thu Apr-03-08 08:27 PM
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3. She is desperate She has no way of winning and she knows it. n't |
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Thu Apr-03-08 08:37 PM
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8. That's why Bill's melting down and why they're both attacking people who are supporting Obama, |
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and why they keep moving the goal posts.
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Thu Apr-03-08 08:42 PM
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11. They can't keep moving the post. |
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The moving they have done already has cost them. Obama is gaining lots of funds and is eating into Clinton's lead in PA (Her last extremely safe state) People are getting tired of Clinton and the funding shows it.
If she does not exit before may. She will face a month of additional setbacks as Obama wins state after state and eats into any Clinton lead. At the same time donations for Obama will continue to stream in while Clinton will be lucky to get it anywhere near 30 million again.
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Thu Apr-03-08 08:35 PM
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7. It is getting SAD. Yet not for Clinton. For the congressional situation. |
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They are forced to sit and watch the presidential nomination get all this attention when they need it badly to help turn the tide against the republicans for seats in congress.
It has been over for Clinton for a while now and this is sad that she wants to continue dragging the party down in my view.
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Thu Apr-03-08 08:47 PM
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That the last few days have had rumors of Obama having 40 million in donations in March, confirmed today, and the nuttiness of Bill & Hillary the last few days.
Like they expected him to stop raising big money, or the difference between what they raised and he raises pisses them off.
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Thu Apr-03-08 08:57 PM
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13. Desperate? Lets look.... |
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Campaign heavily in debt, donations drying to a trickle. Flinging poo at Obama, praying something, anything, sticks. Constant lies and exagerations to pad resume. Attempting to sway SDs to overturn PDs, thusly disenfranchising people who've voted and determined delegate apportionment. Attempting to change primary rules mid contest. Arguing for "do-overs". Constant whining about media. Constant whining about caucuses. Constant whining about SDs who endorse Obama. Playing the race card. Playing the gender card. Playing the age card. Playing the pity poor me card. Endorsing the puke candidate. Moving the goalpost with each loss. Claiming losses as victories, ala Baghdad Bob. Scorhed earth strategy, so Obama can't win GE if nominated, then claiming he's "unelectable".
OK, if by desperate you mean Tonya Harding strategy, then why yes, she is desperate.
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Thu Apr-03-08 09:15 PM
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Yes, she's desperate. :hi:
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Thu Apr-03-08 09:16 PM
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15. I agree! Wonderful list!! |
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Yet not great as this race continues for Clinton.
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