There are times when I love DU to pieces, where else can I go

rasputin1952

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Thu Apr-03-08 09:22 PM
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There are times when I love DU to pieces, where else can I go

to watch people chime in on so many issues, from polar opposites of just a few weeks or days ago?

"This/that person must be chastised!"

"Your candidate sucks more than mine!"

"It isn't/is about being black."

"It isn't/is about being female."

"My candidate has more money!"

I think everyone has the right to an opinion, and that opinion should be heard...but not necessarily agreed with to the point where people absolutely insist that nothing else matters, (at least at that time in the scheme of things).

Point is, most people won't move one millimeter to even try to meet in the middle. There will be no quarter given, few; if any reasoned discussions have been posted over the past few weeks, and because of that, we've been driven into 3 camps.

Camp 1: Those who support a certain candidate.

Camp 2: Those who the other candidate.

Camp 3: Those who are still undecided, but are being driven further from the process by Camps 1 & 2.

I am in Camp 3. I have yet to see either candidate do/say anything I can truly support at his time. It has all about posturing and little substance has come from any of it. Neither candidate can get my support that way. So I'll keep waiting until something comes of this, might be right up to the nomination, but I want something I can sink my teeth into, not just spurious platitudes designed to gain my attention, but are little more than empty calories.

We are now getting to that absurd point where we actually have some people "hating" others because of the candidate they support...and the complaining will go on. But most of what I see are complaints. I see remarkably little that can be seen as positive from either Camp 1 or 2. What has happened, is that animosity is ruling the day, and regardless of the candidate, is that really the way we should be choosing one?

There is faux "outrage" at what others have said or done, but where was the rage when the RW spit all over us? Day in and day out, we are not pressing home the truths that counter the RW hatefest. We're too busy in our own slug-it-out to even see that there are trolls and RWnuts taking stuff off our Boards and using it to show the world what a bunch of loons we can look like.

We call Ann Coulter what she is, a whore; but God forbid someone else says something about "whores."

We call O'Reilly and Limbaugh what they are, moronic gasbags that can't even put a sentence together w/o lying through their teeth; but we call Olberman a "traitor", because he said something someone didn't like, even if it's the truth.

We are FAR better than this, and yet we are being dragged down to the level of the RW..."Fall into step, or a pox be upon you." Everyone has the right to make a post, (within the rules). But no one, ever, has gotten someone to see their point of view by abusing them.

Time after time, people have asked for honest discourse and debate...time after time, some have to come in and overturn the place because they "have all of the answers". I wish I had all of the answers, I'd be happy having MOST of the answers...but the minute I start calling someone else a fool, a 'scumbag', a 'douche-bag', I'll never be able to have a decent conversation w/that person again; and they are most certainly NOT going to agree w/me.

Put down your torches and your pitchforks...talk, and you'd be surprised at how many will hear, and how many may listen.