ANTI-HILLARY BLOGS TANKING, 'America Blog', Daily Kos, 40-30% DOWN

[LulaMay]

Better wake up, 'liberal' left media, you're losing the audience!


Hmmm, wonder how those RATINGS at MSNBC's Puffball the Tweety show, and The Olberman Head Explosion Hour are doing?

Nobody I know watches them at all anymore.

Wonder how Move-On's doing?!!!

The DNC?




Well, for the blog analysis, here's charts and everything....




http://allspinzone.com/wp/2008/04/01/candidate-war-impact-on-progressive-blogs/

[anamandujano]

1. Who'd a thunk it?

Good work Lula!

[Skidmore]

2. I'm sure you'll cheer up even more when Hannity comes on later in the day.

[joshcryer]

3. Stop with the worthless one liners. This is an interesting discussion.

[LulaMay]

9. Thank you.

[dchill]

100. The link disproves your OP.

Read the whole thing (I did), and you'll see that after losing the offended Hillary crowd, DKos and Eschaton still get more hits per day/month than the pro-Hillary blogs. Considering that DKoss gets hits in the millions versus the others in the 40-80k range, the whole theory is completely flushable.

[leftynyc]

24. Haven't you heard the saying

it's better to be thought a fool than to open your "keyboard" and remove all doubt?

[DerekJ]

4. Did Fox, and Rush rankings go up. Because I have an Idea where they went,

[joshcryer]

6. You guys have an astonishing type of group think, look at the post above yours.

They talk about Hillary blogs whose ratings have stayed approximately the same.

[DerekJ]

7. Hehehehe. What would you say joshcryer when some of her HRC supporters agree that FOX is fair and

balanced?

:)

[joshcryer]

13. I would laugh at them.

But that is not happening here, is it? Oh wait, the pathetic one liners had to manage to inundate this thread.

[dchill]

103. Here's a one-liner for ya...

"Daily Kos website growing in popularity: steady increase in traffic"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5384307

Have a nice day!

[LulaMay]

8. Yes, that's right. Hillary leaning/fair blogs are stable...MyDD, etc...

[DerekJ]

40. But it's not true !!!

[cali]

45. fair minded? my dd? bwahahahah.

there is every bit as much nasty crap about Obama on my dd as there is about hillary on kos. and like it or not, lulamay, kos is the most influential political website on the net. Why do you think dems from Pelosi to Scott Kleeb post there?

[rodeodance]

104. good to hear that .

[dchill]

119. Even if it's completely untrue.

-typical-

[rodeodance]

120. Do you have evidence to disprove the remark?? Is so-produce it please.

[niceypoo]

124. Obama's supporters are driving Hillary supporters away....

which will turn out to be a very, very, sad and stupid move come November.

Hate makes people do irrational, self destructive things

[Forkboy]

127. "Hate makes people do irrational, self destructive things"

Yes, we can see that in some of the Hillary supporters weeping and whining about the mean old Obama supporters making you guys vote for McCain. Save the threats, buck up, and quit being babies.

[Skidmore]

14. When you have "liberals" actually campaiging for the firing of

liberal media personalities--especially personalities who kept the issues front and center during the worst of the Bush years--I call BS and strongly suspect their motives and their political leanings.

[joshcryer]

16. Oh liberal media personalities should be protected above liberal politicians.

I see how it is.

[Skidmore]

22. I happen to agree with Randi in her assessment of

Hillary and Ferraro. It's my opinion.

[joshcryer]

51. So it's just arbitrary.

As long as you admit it.

[Skidmore]

55. I'm not certain about what you mean by "arbitrary," but I would point

out to you that whoring oneself for any reason is not limited to the female gender. Males do it too. Politicians quite often do it on a metaphorical level.

[joshcryer]

59. Well you seem to have no problem if the person being bashed is someone you don't like.

I frankly have been consistent on this matter.

[Skidmore]

60. Wow, a cartwheel and a backflip combo.

And so early in morning.

Bash?

[leftynyc]

27. For myself - I have fox blocked

I've been enjoying movies, cooking and travel shows.

[Hissyspit]

5. Olbermann's show yesterday was second in the ratings.

I imagine the waning of the Bush administration has as much to do with it as anything, assuming it is true.

[LulaMay]

12. Is he toning the anti Hillary rhetoric down? He may want to seeing these trends.

[Political Heretic]

37. Not at all.

While I disagree with the characterization as "anti-hillary rhetoric," his reporting has been just as honest and responsibly critical as ever. In fact last nights show was perhaps one of the most indicting for her campaign.

[BootinUp]

114. Thats a hilarious sig image. nt

[Thepricebreaker]

139. BO crushes KO in the Nielsen charts... check it out...

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/28/oreilly-vs-olbermann-through-wednesday-march-26/3105

KO is always in 2nd place...

[Syrinx]

10. "Better wake up, 'liberal' left media"

So you are against the liberal, left media? Explains everything.

[joshcryer]

15. Well, this monthly trend is downard. There must be something to it.

Like, for example, a large number of people getting fed up with the garbage.

[susankh4]

32. Bingo!

The trend, I predict, will soon be for the blog engines ... and.... the left wing talkers.... to TONE IT DOWN!

It's all in the ratings. And the cash flow.

[Syrinx]

42. Some of you Hillary supporters despise the "liberal left"

I'm glad to hear you admit it.

I prefer Hillary to McCain, without a doubt, but it's nice that you admit she is a center-right politician.

[joshcryer]

53. I'm more liberal and left than 90% of people in this forum.

People are actually afraid of Hillary's policies because they can't past. They want a goddamn centrist for christ sake. Harry and fucking Louise.

[rodeodance]

110. Many BO fans here sound like the RW--vile constant smears against A Democrat.

[PoliticalAmazon]

142. Hillary has worked very hard to get that hate. She's getting what she worked for. n/t

[qnr]

140. I've been ardently "liberal left" since the sixties. What I "despise" is having

people call me, and my fellow supporters, "racist," "swine," "freeper," and a good 3,000 other insults during the course of even slow blog days, simply because I - we - don't happen to be supporting Senator Obama.

[LulaMay]

19. The 'liberal' MSM has been horrible to women / Hillary. THAT explains everything.

I have nothing to watch anymore!

It stinks.

I have truly liberal, left blogs I read and belong to....and some radio, like Hartmann. Newspapers....

[PoliticalAmazon]

143. I'm tired of hearing this lie. Hillary screws up, the MSM reports it, and WAH! they...

...are picking on her?

This is EXACTLY the tactic Bush Jr supporters use when the MSM builds up enough nerve to criticize what he has done wrong. His supporters whine that the "liberal media" is biased against Bush Jr.

Hillary has earned the bad press. If you don't like it, go to the source: Hillary Clinton.

[napoleon_in_rags]

11. I'm sick of the anti- Hillary shit, though I think Obama is the nominee.

Its just been this huge shitball of distraction from Bush. There are plenty of valid critiques of the Clintons, but they are a TELLETUBBIES realm of discourse compared to what Bush has done. Any wild loss of priorities on the part of the left is completely unappealing to me. I'm down with excitement over Obama, but not the big McShit distraction that this primary has been.

[joshcryer]

17. Great post, and love the icon!

;)

[napoleon_in_rags]

29. I still believe...

...that we can pull things together. Peace. ;)

[susankh4]

35. "Any wild loss of priorities on the part of the left is completely unappealing to me."

That says it all, IMO.

Thanks!

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

18. This is a long time between primaries

Maybe people are tired of the race, nothing significant happening. Short attention span.

Things might pick up when PA's primary kicks in.

[joshcryer]

20. I agree that this trend is probably overstated, but it could be promising that people are tiring...

...of the hateful commetary being slung about.

[Kool Kitty]

109. And Lord knows that the Hillary people are never guilty of

slinging hateful commentary about. This happens on both sides and it is sad and counterproductive. We will all have to come together in the fall and get the Democratic nominee elected. The alternative is too horrifying to think about. So we all better find a way to get together on this and start using our energy to fight McCain.

[LulaMay]

21. No...the Hillary leaning/fair blogs are stable, lost nothing...it's the anti-Hillary blogs losing it

[susankh4]

44. One might question....

is that a trend we will see with voters as we move toward the GE?

I think many of us old timers have felt that the Obama craze might fizzle a bit....

It'll be interesting to watch.

[LulaMay]

23. Hey, why don't some of you rec this so others can see? :)

[leftynyc]

30. Kick and rec for fairness

[rodeodance]

101. done

[susankh4]

25. Nice little analysis there!

"The bottom line: it would appear that a progressive blogmaster who makes a tactical decision to overtly support Obama is taking both some short and long term risk. The neutral and Clinton-leaning blogs will probably retain their hard core base over the long term. But these things go in cycles, so who knows?"

And congrats to D.U. for at least TRYING to stay neutral!

K&R.

[flor de jasmim]

26. Interesting, but there is no way to factor in the Republican trolls

...and the effect they would or could have had in contributing to the artificially high numbers at the beginning of March. The other aspect which is disingenuous is that they do not mention the total numbers of people involved at the different sites--tens or hundreds of thousands vs. more than a million.

What is true is that many sites have become polarized to the point that people are turned off. That may turn around once a nominee has been identified. If the current blogs become too associated with a single point of view or identity, then new blogs will evolve to bridge the gap, and that may or will exert some pressure on existing blogs to redefine themselves in a more integrated way.

[LulaMay]

34. I think you're making it complicated when it's not. Anti HRC blogs Down, others r stable

[TheDoorbellRang]

84. I've got a book called "How to Lie With Statistics"

that this blogger must have read.

Notice he's only posting results from one month? Is there anything we can think of that might have made traffic heavier earlier in the month -- say around March 4th?
Oh, yeah! The primaries in four states! :think:

So what's the traffic pattern over a longer period?

Here is the six month traffic graph for daily kos from last October until now. Notice the traffic increase starting in January and going through early March? Results for earlier months are between 200-300 million. Then February results swell to between 300-450 million. Finally, the end of March shows hits once again subsiding to pre-primary season levels.

Here is the corresponding six month graph for MyDD. Hovering at 20 million, picks up in January, and peaks at 50 million in February and March before starting back down at the end of March. Same pattern as daily kos but on a much smaller scale, pro-Hillary or not.

Do you think when both these sites spike again around April 22 it will be because of the mass return of Hillary supporters? Or do you think maybe -- just maybe -- the PA primary might have something to do with it?

[krkaufman]

125. Exacly what I was just saying below, except you made the effort to provide figures.

I found the bloggers technique pitiable, just using a straight-edge to map whatever trend they were looking for, rather than applying any actual statistical analysis -- and *then* there's the long-term issue, and the ignorance of other contributing factors, like the longest lull in the primary process since the beginning of 2008.

Total hogwash, to put it nicely. (more kindly than I put it below, anyway)

edit: Oh, by the way... I'm not sure it's lefty progressives like Kos et al that need to be worried, when Kos' numbers are still hitting above 300 per million and MyDD, a Clinton-leaning site, is metering in at less than 40 per million. I'm thinking the Democratic Party leaders will be taking note of the Obama fundraising numbers, the new and crossover voters committed to Obama, the pro-Obama netswell, as it were, and will make the call that is best for the *FUTURE* of the Democratic Party.

[Uben]

28. Olberman's ratings are down this year

He should have stuck to OBJECTIVELY covering the news. I quit watching months ago. I once thought he might be the new Murrow, but his attempts to outdo himself just became less and less interesting.

[LulaMay]

31. I'd be interested in any link. :)

[Political Heretic]

41. He's been in the top 5 of cable shows all week this week. It doesn't get much better than that.

[susankh4]

46. Do you have a link?

I'd like to know how splitting the Dem party affects the left wing talkers... and I think it's just now coming home to roost for them. at least... the trends are just becoming obvious.

[Beacool]

73. Ahhhhh, objectivity..........

The one goal that that most real journalists strive to achieve, but seems to be so elusive at MSNBC.

Olbermann has become one more windbag of many in that network. That's why I and plenty of others don't watch it anymore. If I want objective TV reporting I watch PBS or C-Span.

[Iceburg]

97. Olberman squandered a journalist's only currency -- credibility

he can't get that back. No amount of atonement can recover from that loss.
I cancelled my subscription to MSNBC weeks ago and under no circumstances would consider re-subscribing.

[PoliticalAmazon]

145. Reporting truth about Hillary does not equal losing credibility. n/t

[krkaufman]

136. KO hasn't objectively covered the news in ages.

He's been deliberately more critical of the Right than the Left, mostly based on visible actions and abuses by the Bush Administration and their Republican toadies, but now he's also speaking out regarding excesses he sees within the Democratic Party.

At some point, one may start to realize that the simplest rationale is the most likely. Either the entire MSM, left wing blogs and media outlets and growing numbers of party leaders are in some vast Left Wing conspiracy out to get Hillary Clinton, or maybe Hillary Clinton's actions have alienated large numbers of left-of-center voters and opinion makers.

[Political Heretic]

33. Countdown was the second highest news show in all of cable last night, according to MSNBC. So....

...he's doing fine.

Your analysis is faulty. If it was only so-called "anti-clinton" blogs that were down, it would possibly be noteworthy. But it is a wide variety of blog readership that is down, across the spectrum. I would speculate than in a free-falling economy, a lot of people are finding less access or less time or less interest in sitting around and "blogging" they once had.

[LulaMay]

36. It's not my analysis. Some here have said his ratings are down. Don't know about last nite.

[BigBearJohn]

38. RECOMMENDED!!!!!

[DerekJ]

39. BTW, this is B.S and is not true, so stop repeating it.

[Cooley Hurd]

65. The OP lost her credibility on her AAR cruise "yarns..."

[Breeze54]

70. moved

[shaniqua6392]

43. Most of them have lost me over the past few months.

I used to listen/watch the following shows: Stephanie Miller, Ed Schultz, Randi Rhodes, Keith Olbermann, etc. I have XM and Sirius radio. I used to go on DailyKos every day and subscribe to The Nation magazine. I can't listen/watch/read any of them. Air America is now Air Obama, and the rest of them have spent so much time slandering Clinton and giving props to Obama, it makes me want to puke. And before someone claims that I am just pissed because I am a Clinton supporter, you are wrong. I really do not care for either candidate. I think we are neglecting to nominate the right person to go against McCain. I will vote for whoever is the nominee though. These shows have just become so obviously one sided. I thought they were supposed to be progressives who were against the Republican Party. They barely even mention Bush and what he is up to. I bet Bush is just loving this fight between the Dems. Our backs are turned and that is what pisses me off. Then we have Randi Rhodes calling a United States Senator in the Democratic Party a f****ing whore? I have even seen Obama supporters who think that her statement was "awesome" and "justified". It is sickening what we have become. United we stand and divided we fall. That is why Republicans win. That is why McCain's poll numbers are higher when he is put up against either of our candidates. When will we ever learn?

[susankh4]

48. I am right where you are....

and it's not exactly a "boycott." I just don't like the shows anymore. Why should I listen as they bash "my candidate" over and over? I was really wondering how these shows could sustain ratings..... while alienating half of their listenership. Now the truth is seeping out.....

I hope we start to hear some substance return to them soon!

[IsItJustMe]

66. Maybe you should ask yourself the honest question of WHY this has all transpired.

[Beacool]

77. And deeply divided we are when there are too many lifelong Democrats

who would not consider voting for Obama in the fall. It is wishful thinking that this is just a temporary lapse and we will "unite" in November. I honestly don't see it happening. McCain will probably get plenty of crossover Democratic votes.

[chill factor]

137. Sorry, Beacool.

I am a lifelong Democrat! I have been an Obama supporter since day one.I float on many of the blogs and there are many old timers like me who support Senator Obama. I believe the Democratic part will come together in November - when we have one candidate to concentrate on and we are not hitting on each other! :toast:

[PoliticalAmazon]

A lot of that will depend on how HRC leaves the race. My guess is that...

...she will do just like she has done in her campaign: be as divisive as possible, insult Obama supporters, and lie about Obama, and lie about the reasons she lost.

[bowens43]

47. complete nonsense. but then you're a hillary supporter.

nonsense or lies are the best you have.

[DerekJ]

49. DEEEBUUUNKKKEEEEDD

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5379300

[joshcryer]

52. Please stop spamming your innaccurate thread here.

[Teaser]

57. king spam asks the spammer to stop?

.

[ProSense]

68. Hahahaha! Facts=Spam! n/t

[Upton]

69. That's great, thanks

[Kahuna]

50. How are the pro-hillary blogs doing? I would imagine as many people

would flee blog-sites who do nothing but exalt Hillary 24/7. I know I would.

[Yukari Yakumo]

54. This claim, much like Tuzla, has been revealed to be a lie under scrutiny

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5379300

Oops. It appears traffic for "Anti-Hillary" blogs has remained steady in the past three months.

Anyone wanna take bets on what the next lie HRC or her surrogates (official and otherwise) will think of next?

[joshcryer]

56. That post uses a 3 month stat.

It's innaccurate and I posted the problem with their observation there.

At the bottom of the post they admit that this effect is occuring.

[DerekJ]

58. I replied by showing you the 1 month graph and pointing you to the 1 week stats.

Go back there.

[totodeinhere]

108. It depends on which analysis you want to believe.

This one shows Kos's traffic going steadily upward.

http://www.quantcast.com/dailykos.com/traffic

[jordi_fanclub]

61. From a website named allSPINzone what we expect?... ONE pic says 1000's words!

Added Permalink: http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/americablog.com?site0=americablog.com&site1=dailykos.com&site2=atrios.blogspot.com&site3=talkleft.com&site4=mydd.com&y=p&z=0&h=400&w=700&u%5B%5D=americablog.com&u%5B%5D=dailykos.com&u%5B%5D=atrios.blogspot.com&u%5B%5D=talkleft.com&u%5B%5D=mydd.com&x=2008-04-04T10%3A58%3A36.000Z&check=www.alexa.com&signature=2sqyyu53s%2FuSa%2FuXwoWPsGLvkK8%3D&range=3m&size=Large

[americanstranger]

88. Gee, I'm sure Kos will be living in the street soon.

My God, he's down to a mere 12 million page views! The end is nigh!

I'm convinced that if Clinton supporters can't take down Obama (and they can't), they'll be perfectly happy to settle for a few media personalities and bloggers.

Gotta quench that bloodlust.

- as

[Ian David]

62. That's because Hillary supporters can't dodge all the sniper fire on those boards. n/t

[workinclasszero]

63. So freakrepublic is happy

and so are the Hillbots.

hmmm.....

[kevinmc]

64. Hmmm .... very interesting .... but wrong. ....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5379300#5379354

[OzarkDem]

67. More than half of Dem voters are women

You can only trash them for so long before they walk away and find their own sources of information and political discourse.

[DerekJ]

75. Debunked:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5379300#5379354

[Breeze54]

71. LMAO! Why do you make this shit up?

Daily Kos is anti-HRC? That's a joke, right?

[Beacool]

72. Doesn't this sound familiar:

"Venom was spewing, stupid declarations were being made, and it was clear that an online civil war had been joined.

I noticed the same basic trend on a few other sites that are (or were) on my daily reading list. If comments were made that could be perceived as pro-Clinton or anti-Obama, the swarm descended. Rationality seems to have taken a back seat to ad hominem attacks - and not just at the hands of the community members - but the actual proprietors of the blogs. It’s clear that certain blogmasters have taken up sides in the candidate wars. But probably more than just taking up sides, many of these blogs have actively gone super negative, rather than simply favoring one candidate over the other."

It sounds exactly like DU. I used to enjoy coming to this board to exchange ideas with fellow Democrats, now I put on my armor before entering and I'm ready to do battle against the constant vitriol spewed at Hillary. All sense of fairness seems to have gone out the window in the blind adoration for a candidate who many people didn't even know about until last year.

I think that the wounds are too deep and will not heel before November. More's the pity......

:(

[DerekJ]

76. debunked:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5379300#5379354

[Beacool]

79. What's debunked?

I couldn't care less about ratings!!! I'm talking about the deep divide within the blogs and also on this board.

[Rockholm]

94. Are you a PAID DEBUNKER for Obama?

You have been here for all of one month and have over 1K posts.

[Kool Kitty]

126. It is certainly a pity.

Imagine what the Supreme Court will be like with McCain making the nominations, imagine sending our kids, grandkids, husbands, wives, to Iraq and Iran and wherever else Big John decides he wants to invade or occupy, imagine what's left of our rights getting pissed away. Imagine the economy. Very scary stuff and that's the reason why the Democrat that gets the nomination gets my vote. I think I would be nuts not to do so.

[Changenow]

74. It's killing Dailykos

Look at this:

http://www.sitemeter.com/?a=stats&s=sm8dailykos&r=36

He only had 32,000,000 visits last month, as compared to 16,000,000 in March '07.

[anonymous171]

86. OMG, he's doomed.

:rofl:

[dchill]

98. And the "other" blogs...

are measuring in the 30-80k range - not millions. This whole OP is crap.

[AmericanUnity]

138. :-)

[stevietheman]

78. It shows that the Hillary people are more fanatical.

They're the types who "pick up their marbles and run home crying".

Sad, and pathetic.

[rodeodance]

154. What the OP shows is that people of sick of smeaning a Democratic--just like the RW does.

[SeaLyons]

80. Yes, they better wake up...

Thanks for the great post.

K&R

:kick:

[tabasco]

81. You seem to hate the liberal left.

WTF are you doing here with your fucking lies?

[LulaMay]

116. I'm surprised you passed your drivers test, mistaking right for left. People like you are imposters.

[rodeodance]

153. So much of 'liberal' left sounds just the RW-smeaning a Democratic!--thats

not progressive.

I do not consider them progressive when they take on the talk of the RW!

[crankychatter]

82. if Obama wins your Obamatruth site can be sold to the GOP, fun huh?

oops I forgot

it already is

[mrreowwr_kittty]

83. God you're embarassing, LulaMay

Thanks for finally admitting you're no liberal.

[LulaMay]

118. God, you never have anything to say. You are no real liberal, like those who're exposing their bias

[bvar22]

85. When Hillary drops out in a few weeks, things will get better.

*The Democrats will unite behind Obama and work to get him elected.

*The Republican Trolls (Operation Chaos) will go back to FR

*The very small percentage of Hillary fanatics will go back to their mother's basements, nurse their bitterness, and plot revenge. Some (a very small few) will use their bitter blindness/racism to vote for a Republican.

*The paid Hillary shills will go back on unemployment, and will leave the blogs or get banned.

*Randi will be back on Air America (if AA is smart), or will move her very successful show to another station. Randi has always gotteen good ratings wherever she works. AA might not have made it through the early years without Randi).

*Olbermann's ratings will continue to INCREASE.

*Nothing posted at DU will change any of this, and DU will become a much better place as soon as Hillary drops out. :)

[UALRBSofL]

87. LulaMay I can understand some of the viewership coming down

I'm sure KO's viewership has gone down because the Clinton supporters quit watching him. I also know moveon's membership and donations have also dropped because the Clinton supporters I know stopped there membership when moveon went ahead and endorsed Obama. As far as DNC, I would guess they have lost support since Dean has single handedly debunked or destroyed the democratic party in FL/MI.

[LSK]

89. KOS, Olbermann, Move-on have been the leaders of the anti-war movement

For the past 5 years and now you shit on them????

:wtf:

[MediaBabe]

112. When they change their direction, yeah, I change my support n/t

[LulaMay]

117. Too bad they hate women. That is a base cause of violence and war. They get no pass, no excuse.

[anonymous171]

148. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^ROFL

[PoliticalAmazon]

150. Stop the lies. Hillary is the source of the negative stories. Don't blame...

...the media when they finally get up enough nerve to stand up to the Clintons and report on her many lies, scandals, lapses of ethics, and manipulations.

You sound like Bush Jr supporters. Whenever the MSM finally screws up enough courage to report on the many Bush Jr debacles, Bush Jr supporters whine that the MSM is biased against Bush Jr.

Get a clue...the media is simply reporting about bad actions that politicians take.

Was the media biased against the GOP for reporting on Senator Larry "Wide-Stance" Craig's bathroom antics? No. He screwed up and they reported on it.

Enough of the blaming others for Hillary's problems that she created for herself. If you don't like her problems being reported in the news, then tell her to straighten up her damned act.

[bvar22]

121. Hillary is PRO-Iraq War.

Why should her supporters care about the Anti-WAR movement?

[itcfish]

90. I Gave Up Reading those Blogs

I am ready to give up on DU with all the Hillary haters posting more nonsense than truth.

[americanstranger]

93. Yeah, if you don't read the truth...

...it doesn't exist, right?

- as

[itcfish]

96. I Said More

nonsense than truth. I didn't say that there was not truth. Geez.

[Rockholm]

91. I only peek at AmericaBlog anymore.

I barely ever visit AmericaBlog anymore. I have commented a few times about the Obamanation that the site has become. I never watch KO anymore. Thank God for the Red Sox season starting now, as I will either be at Fenway or watching on TV.

[MadBadger]

92. Racist Lou Dobbs' ratings are up I'm sure. It seems the Clintonites have gone there.

[DearAbby]

95. watching Fox news lately?...nt

[rodeodance]

99. REC

[rodeodance]

102. it is clear--people tune out the daily vile Hillary hate RANTS!

[merh]

105. And gee, could this "decline" be caused by the animosity

of the primaries and not on who is the more favored candidate?

Let's just say a lot of folks I know have stopped participating because they have decided who it is they support and they don't want to be attacked and/or fall into the attacking to defend mode. They will return when the primaries are over - they will participate when the purpose is legitimate. That is, dividing the party and attacking dems is not what is important, what is important is keeping the GOP out of the White House and exposing McSame for what he is and how he can harm the country.

Of course, you can look at it like it means folks don't support Obama, that is your prerogative. I don't see it that way. Many have already voted and they just want this crap behind them.

I would bet you that not everyone in Rome went to the coliseum to watch the lions mangle the Christians.

[MediaBabe]

113. You hit the nail right on. n/t

[featherman]

106. Not true... see link below

http://www.quantcast.com/dailykos.com/traffic

[totodeinhere]

123. Please don't bother us with the facts.

;-)

[SeaLyons]

107. Kick

[walldude]

111. LMAO.. ratings at MSNBC are up, way up in the big demographics

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/q1_2008_ratings_msnbc_7_8_9_81324.asp?c=rss

Of course you can spin this however you like.

I never thought I'd see people cheering the "demise" of the left on DU. Enjoy the fact that you are cheering the demise of the only people who would stand behind your candidate should she get the nomination. It's a good plan really. Alienate your only possible allies..

[MethuenProgressive]

115. This is great news! The less hate, the better!

You can't argue with bar graphs!

[krkaufman]

122. Think of it as a much-needed enema.

The sites will likely function much better without delusional holdouts distracting from the goal of getting our Democratic nominee, Barack Obama, into the White House next January.

edit: That's some of the worst "statistical analysis" I've seen, drawing conclusions from one month's numbers... and just using some lame straight-line/rule approach to gauge a trend, without considering long-term trends, contributing news events, and maybe even the fact that we haven't had a fucking primary or caucus in WEEKS!

What total dumbasses... the author and those who buy into the manufactured bulls**t.

[Breeze54]

128. But hey? What the hell do facts matter?

:sarcasm:

Thank You. A voice of reason in the wilderness. ;)

[krkaufman]

131. More fact-based post above, providing the data that I expected.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5379196&mesg_id=5380818

[oasis]

129. Kos has gone way beyond his fifteen minutes.(eom)

[mcollier]

134. How did McCain's March Fundrasing go....

Hahahahhahahahahahahhaha..... Hahahahahhahaha.... Too Funny...

Who cares about the blogs when the real story is on the streets of America.


I'll start worrying when McCains donations get anywhere close to 20 million next to Obama's donations....

Do the republicans really think they have a chance with McSame...

Don't get me to laughing again...

[krkaufman]

135. No doubt. His traffic is trickling in at nearly 8 times the rate of MyDD.com n/t

[NJSecularist]

130. What a BS spin job.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out what these blog's views were extremely high around March 4th and then slowly went down during the month. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that there hasn't been a primary since March 4th? :eyes: :eyes:

[krkaufman]

132. Exactly. Though the bandwagoneers sort of make clear the delusion of the holdouts.

Good post above, here...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5379196&mesg_id=5380818
... and less good :) post here...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5379196&mesg_id=5391306

[jillan]

133. Thanks for this - I just found out what sites lean towards Hillary -

and I just signed up :)

[rodeodance]

147. ha ha--I am laughing so hard that I can hardly type!!!

[jackson_dem]

141. This isn't surprising given the thuggish mob tactics used by Obamites in the blogosphere

[anonymous171]

144. There are more Obama supporters on the blogosphere.

Therefore any attack by them would look monstrously huge.

[jackson_dem]

149. It isn't size but tactics that is the problem

Edwards supporters outnumbered Obamites in the blogosphere but you didn't see these kind of things in the blogosphere caused hemorrhaging at blogs back then. Only when Edwards left did the real trouble begin as Obamites no longer had any large competition.

[Levgreee]

146. Maybe it's because there are no primaries going on and the race is over mathematically?

No, that couldn't be it! Just as many people are going to go when there is a month long break in primaries!

[stop the bleeding]

151. God there are some really STUPID people on DU

this has already been SOOOOOOOO Debunked.

Go home and thanks for playing.

:beer:

[McCamy Taylor]

152. I have given up Salon for the same reason. Went there one day, got slammed for being neutral.

"Neutral" equals "Hillary-bot" in too many parts of the progressive on-line community.

I trust DU because the name is "Democratic".