global1
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Fri Apr-04-08 12:30 PM
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Correct Me If I'm Wrong - But Didn't Bill Clinton Just The Other Day Say Something About....... |
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being able to take the criticism or campaign banter - that when you run for office - you better be able to take the crap that goes with the territory.
If someone has a video of that I would like to hear it - could you post it here.
Particularly in relation to the controversy now about Randi.
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Fri Apr-04-08 12:40 PM
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You are going to tell me that the Clintons |
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got Randi suspended? What a laugh! I think they have more important things to worry about than a radio talk show host. Wow, Obama supporters will blame the Clintons for any and all things.
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Fri Apr-04-08 12:42 PM
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3. It's not a cut-and-dried as that |
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It's no secret that the Greens are pro-Hillary and many of the hosts have hinted or said outright that Clinton thugs have been pressuring AAR for a while. Sam Seder was told outright on the air that criticism of Hillary was not a "good career move".
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Fri Apr-04-08 12:58 PM
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6. It's because we are in the primary season |
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and hosts are not supposed to play favorites. Simple. And Randi had said over and over that she would not endorse anyone in the primary, but when she came back from vacation she gushed about Obama for 3 days.
If your boss asks you to be objective in the primary season, that's what you should be. You should not be giving free favorable air time to one candidate over another. They are not supposed to be campaigning for their favorite candidate. They should also not be demeaning the other candidates. What's so hard to understand about that.
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Fri Apr-04-08 01:02 PM
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7. Crap -- these people are PAID to have opinions |
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It's been said over and over again. None of the hosts on ANY network have been asked to be "objective". This ain't the New York Times. Their job is to NOT be objective.
That's why it's such a travesty that the Greens are pressuring hosts to dial down their truthful criticisms of the Clinton campaign.
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Fri Apr-04-08 02:03 PM
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11. Not opinions about the dems running |
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it will sway a campaign. If they want to go after repubs then have at it, but not dems. The simple truth is Randi has been a media whore for Obama for months. HER use of the word whore was mean to degrade 2 accomplished women. And, I'm pretty sure that the Greens have been getting complaints about Randi for months, the video was icing on the cake.
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Fri Apr-04-08 02:25 PM
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14. Yes, opinions about whatever they want |
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It's called the First Amendment. Look it up.
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Fri Apr-04-08 02:08 PM
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12. and Larry Johnson, who is an avid Hillary supporter, has a stake in all this. |
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he put the you tube vid up and on his blog apparently celebrated with a 'We Did It!' thread when Randi was suspended.
so thinking this may have had some connection to the Clinton campaign is quite reasonable, imo.
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Fri Apr-04-08 02:26 PM
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15. Hmmm... a former CIA spook celebrating the shut-down of a liberal radio show |
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That's not creepy or anything.
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Fri Apr-04-08 12:43 PM
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5. Clinton supporters - the mgmt of AAR - got Randi suspended. |
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Fri Apr-04-08 01:02 PM
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8. I Don't Think You Read My Post Well...... |
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what I was looking for was either a video or a quote from Bill Clinton in the last week or two where he was commenting on the whining going on by the Obama campaign of the criticism for Rev. Wright. Bill said something to the effect that if you can't take it you shouldn't be running - or it goes with the territory.
The point being - I see all the Hillary supporters damning Randi for her comments - but if we use Bill's own words - what Randi said goes with the territory. Hillary is running for president. She opens herself up (as all candidates do) to all kinds of name calling. So if the candidates are supposed to weather the criticism - why can't the supporters. That's all.
I said nothing to the effect that it was the Clinton's that got Randi suspended. Actually - it was Randi that got Randi suspended.
So next time Zalinda - before you go off on a post - read the post first and try and understand what was being conveyed.
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Fri Apr-04-08 02:17 PM
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13. I did. And Clinton has been taking it on the chin |
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for years and has still remained standing. What I resent is that dems are ganging up on her as if she is the enemy. And, even though I don't like Obama, I would be defending him if the roles were reversed. I don't like Clinton, but she is and has been treated quite unfairly. She has been called EVERY demeaning name imaginable by "loyal" dems, and Obama supporters for the most part think that it is quite okay.
I want the hate to stop. I don't call any of the candidates "pet" names, I don't even call repubs "pet" names. We are all fucking human beings. To imply that Clinton supporters are whining about what Randi said is not only disingenuous, but wrong. Many who are upset at Randi are upset by her sexist comments. Again, if she had said corporate whore, political whore or even media whore, I would not have been upset, but she called 2 accomplished women fucking whores. This was meant to demean them and their accomplishments, nothing more. Randi has gone off on repubs who have said demeaning things, (remember macaca anyone?)but she excuses herself when she says something demeaning about women.
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Fri Apr-04-08 12:40 PM
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1. Depends what the meaning of "take" is. |
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If "take" means "accept with class and equanimity" then, no.
However, if "take" means "scream and whine like a bitty baby" then, yeah, they can "take" it.
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Fri Apr-04-08 12:41 PM
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2. How DARE you use his own words against him!! |
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Just remember, "When Clintons lie, no one dies." Makes it all ok.
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Fri Apr-04-08 12:43 PM
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4. The Clintons two-faced and hypocritical? |
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Fri Apr-04-08 01:08 PM
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9. Why? Just look at "the innocence" that embodies Geraldine Ferraro and HRC's harrowing |
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experience under "sniper fire." My goodness, after all that these two woman HAVE SAID, Randi, IMO, WAS SPOT ON in her analysis of them as Corporate *WHORES* (do any damn thing for their personal/political benefit).
Also, albeit I'm pushing 50 y.o., there's a distinct "generation gap" with regard to the connotations of the words "pimping" and "whores."
However, when you've served YOUR ENDS by exuding FALSE OUTRAGE in order to stir up Media blather and McCarthy-like knee-jerk reactions, don't let the development of connotations of CERTAIN words get in your SELF-RIGHTEOUS WAY. :eyes:
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Fri Apr-04-08 01:09 PM
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10. He also said in next sentence something about "...them picking on a girl." n/t |
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