MSNBC : Clinton taxes for 2000-2006 just released 109.2 mil in income confirmed

[NDambi]

[spinbaby]

1. And?

Details! We want details!

:bounce:

[flpoljunkie]

45. Details..

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/feature/returns/

[Hutzpa]

53. Not from there....

surely they are showing the cleaner figures.

We want proper details.

[flpoljunkie]

68. Politico's Ben Smith notes that roughly $18 million is unaccounted for in the summary.

UPDATE: The interesting part, of course, is the roughly $18 million that the summary doesn't account for.

The Clintons' taxes

Long-awaited, they arrive — when else — at 4:00 p.m. Friday.

The Clintons' joint returns show them earning more than $109 million over a period of seven years.

The biggest source of income is Bill Clinton's speeches — source of $51 million. He made another $30 million from books; Hillary made about $10 million from her book.

Spokesman Jay Carson says, in a statement:

The Clintons have now made public thirty years of tax returns, a record matched by few people in public service. None of Hillary Clinton's presidential opponents have revealed anything close to this amount of personal financial information.

What the Clintons' tax returns show is that they paid more than $33,000,000 in federal taxes and donated more than $10,000,000 to charities over the past eight years. They paid taxes and made charitable contributions at a higher rate than taxpayers at their income level.

You can download them, and see a summary, here. They include detailed returns for 2000 through 2006, and the request for an extension for last year.

If you're poring over them, let me know what you find.

ALSO: The returns went early to Drudge — who has been extremely hard on Hillary for months — as good proof as any since the time of Machiavelli that it's better to be feared than loved.

UPDATE: The interesting part, of course, is the roughly $18 million that the summary doesn't account for.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0408/The_Clintons_taxes.html

[neverforget]

2. The Friday afternoon news dump......

[NDambi]

7. Yep that's the what the reporter from Washington times said

they'll be combing through them all weekend

[Major Hogwash]

72. Page 47 out of Rove's playbook

Adopted by the Hillary campaign last year.

[babylonsister]

3. Total nearly $110M. Wow. They should both retire!

:P

[jgraz]

51. They will. Soon.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

64. she can pay the Boys and Girls Club now

She should pay these debts:


Clinton owes a total of $19,627.20 to 14 school districts with an average debt of $1401.94. The largest amount, $4411.05, is owed to Winnacunnet Cooperative School District in Hampton, New Hampshire.

She owes 7 colleges and universities a total of $19,983.48 with an average debt of $2854.78. The largest amount is owed to the athletic department of Southern New Hampshire University. She owes them $9542.80.

She owes 11 cities and towns a total of $13,184.63 with an average debt of $1198.60. She owes the town of Hampton, New Hampshire the most with a debt of $4628.96. (Hampton, NH gets hit twice.)

Lastly she owes the Boys and Girls Clubs of Sioux City and Blackhawk County Iowa a total of $1,625.00 with $1000 of that owed to the Boys and Girls Club of Blackhawk County.

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/04/hillary-please-pay-these-debts.php

[Coexist]

4. holy shit.

this will be big on Monday.

[Zachstar]

5. WTF!!! 109 million?!!?!?!

[anonymous171]

6. Holy Shit!

:wow: Where did that come from?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

11. Mr Moony?

[Boz]

22. Influence is a hotter commodity than information

[Whisp]

69. I think it all started rolling in heavy in 2003.

now what could that possibly mean - seeing as the fine Senator was so much against the War.

[MadBadger]

8. Monday will be the Tax Day come early.

[merh]

9. those caymen island offshore accounts

really pay off :sarcasm:

[blm]

17. That doesn't even count the current payoff from Dubai. Deep-sixing BCCI matters REALLY paid off.

.

[leftynyc]

27. 30 million in taxes

10.2 million to charity. What exactly is your beef?

[merh]

79. Those caymen island accounts seem really neat

guess US banks ain't good enough

and aren't those banks used to obscure truths?

No beef, just questions.

See post 17

[David__77]

10. WOW!!! Make sure everyone in PA knows it too!

She's as far from "blue collar" as you can get.

[Zachstar]

16. I agree!!

It is no wonder Clinton tried to hide this for so long!

[HereSince1628]

12. As a late Friday news dump.

If nothing else that's a tactic of old-school politics used for bad news.

[Catherina]

13. Details please!

:bounce:

[NDambi]

15. MSNBC will discuss it in detail in a few minutes...the income came from a summary not detail tax ret

[jefferson_dem]

24. Some details here --

http://thepage.time.com/2008/04/04/the-tax-woman-cometh/

[Texas Hill Country]

76. so they have a take home of $8 million a year??? that is all??? I expected WAY more.

compare that to their contemporaries, that aint shit.

[Forkboy]

14. How it's earned means more to me the total itself.

[BeyondGeography]

29. Nobody "earns" that kind of money if you're an ex-politician

it is extended to you on the expectation of future returns.

[babylonsister]

Actually, I've heard the proceeds of their books are incorporated

into this figure, so some of it might have been earned.

[BeyondGeography]

37. Of course...but a lot of it is a bet on future access to the White House

[Forkboy]

60. The onus of proof is on you for that.

You may be right, this is Washington after all. But, if it's above board and legal, so what? I'm dirt poor but I don't begrudge people making money unless they do it off the backs of those who really earned it. Speaking engagements, book deals...those are legal and I have no problems with that. :shrug:

[phrigndumass]

34. About $90 million came from book sales and speaking engagements

I think $51 million for Bill Clinton's speaking engagements alone ...

[theboss]

67. That's just a staggering amount of money for pep talks

I know that this is going to be the case of every former president going forward, but it really strikes me as ex post facto bribery in some ways.

[MindMatter]

70. Does anybody know how much Jimmy Carter made in those years?

A tale of two Presidents, I have no doubt.

[blogslut]

18. wow

That's a lot of money.

[MadBadger]

19. I believe these are your details People!

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/feature/returns/

[Coexist]

28. not many details there - how much for what speeches?

[MadBadger]

33. I tried downloading things, but I cant understand ANY of it.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

20. The haves and the have-mores.

[Texas Hill Country]

21. A guess, that is not per year, that is over the course of 7 years... about $15.7m/yr

[bigbrother05]

23. 2007 please

[shaniqua6392]

25. They sure do know how to make money!!

That is a lot of money for two people to make in 7 years. They have been very a very successful couple. I have to admire that. Pretty awesome.

[DJ13]

26. Im not surprised

They pandered to the wealthy and the corporate interests ever since Bill was first elected, getting repaid after he left office doesnt surprise me.

(Graft isnt graft if they wait long enough to collect I suppose.....)

The only surprise from this will be seeing Clinton supporters twist going from being in the hole after Bill left office in debt to his lawyers, to reporting 110 million in a few years time.

[ampad]

30. Holy shit!

For real what the....

[Zachstar]

35. Frak!!

Tons of their own money and tons of power.

Not what we want for America

[babylonsister]

31. No worries, $33M went to taxes! Must be nice. nt

[NDambi]

32. Clinton's paid 33 mil in taxes and gave 10 mil in charity..of 109.2 income over 7 yrs..

that's all from a summary sheet..

reporters will be combing through them all weekend

[flor de jasmim]

36. ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE for not paying the small vendors who supplied her campaign.

I hope some of them sue her/her campaign.

[anonymous171]

39. Well, maybe she has to pay with campaign funds?

I don't know a lot about campaign finance law.

[flor de jasmim]

48. Mitt Romney spent 35 MILLION of his own money on his campaign, so I think she could do it

[anonymous171]

49. Whoops. Forgot about that. But remember how weak that made him look?

That's probably what she's trying to avoid. I do think she needs to repay them though.

[my3boyz]

40. EXACTLY! If she knew she owed them money she could easily write them a check

It is unbelieveable that she would allow those hard-working people that extended credit to her go without being paid.

[Zachstar]

52. I 100 percent agree!!

You got the money Clinton PAY UP!!

[Celebration]

38. big nothing

no details that I can find--

I don't see the returns posted, just summaries.

If she released the actual returns, I couldn't find them.

[Coexist]

42. $51 mil for speeches? I am very interested in that number

what exactly, constitutes a "speech". Did he make any "speeches" in Dubai?

[Lerkfish]

46. I believe so...that's my theory

in concert with his brokering the Dubai ports deal

[RB TexLa]

62. What is wrong with making speeches in Dubai?

[Vinca]

41. Wow! Talk really isn't cheap. nt

[islandmkl]

47. get me their dictionary....

i need to learn some new words....

i want some of them money-makin' words...

[workinclasszero]

43. Selling their souls to big business really paid off for the Clinton's

No wonder Hill and Bill love NAFTA and all the other free trade bullshit.

It sure has been great for them eh?:mad:

[Lerkfish]

44. remains to be seen if my theory is correct that many of those millions

for clinton speeches come from Dubai, Saudi Arabia, and China

[Hutzpa]

50. Holy smokes!

:wtf:


and she is for the smaller guy......:wow:

with this amount of money how is she going to represent
me or fight for me as she so eloquently uses all the
time....:shrug: can't see that happening.

This is more of the same.

[mucifer]

54. well the Kerrys had billions

[easy_b94]

59. Come on you know what most of the money comes from...

[jgraz]

55. Well, in fairness, $109 Million over 18,000 years isn't really that much

It's only about $6000/year.

[NDambi]

56. LOL

[Hutzpa]

74. You're right!

it doesn't count....:rofl:

[pkz]

57. An oddity I noticed right off...

I have an accounting degree and I do a lot of personal income tax returns.

I have not manually typed a return for about 10 yrs.
These returns numbers are not the commonly used font.

All accountants and tax preparers do taxes with software, I cannot even imagine doing them long hand anymore, sometimes I do some calculations, just to make sure.

I may be right, I may not be, but I do think they look typed on a typewriter instead of printed from a printer.

[NDambi]

63. hmmmmmmmmmm...

[Hutzpa]

75. Good point....

very good point...

:thumbsup:

[jgraz]

58. Damn you and your sneaky edits!

Wrecked my joke! :P :P :P

[NDambi]

61. Lol Sorry J...sorry...

[theboss]

65. Holy mother of God

That's a lot of scratch.

[riskpeace]

66. How much did Senator Obama get for his books?

It seemed that more than half of the money is from Bill Clinton's speeches. Will Senator Obama give up paid speeches after he is President?

Senator Clinton contributed (nicely, I might add) with the $10 million in book income and the Senate salary. How much would Michelle Obama's salary add up to over 7 years?

In this country, most of the elected officials at the national level are rich or certainly comfortable. I know I can't afford a house and yard like either Senator Obama or Senator Clinton enjoy. I'd still vote for either one in November.

[loveangelc]

71. I heard he's not releasing a lot of details in his taxes because of funding he received

from overseas companies and people. Interesting.

[Major Hogwash]

73. Hmmmm, that's what the ABC report was talking about earlier, too.

Stay tuned.
This ain't over until the commercials come on.

LoL

[Rubiconski2009]

77. Let's make a poor guy president - like Abraham Lincoln.

Fired up and Ready to go!! Vote Obama 200!!

[Tatiana]

78. Apparently words do matter if people want to pay you for them. n/t

[The Backlash Cometh]

80. She's made enough money. Why does she want to be president?

I really don't get it. When is enough, enough? It's not like the Clintons are going to be vehicles of change. The same old alliances and same old way of doing dirty business is going to continue under a Hillary Clinton presidency as it ever has before. Isn't that kind of money enough to keep someone satisfied when they're really not going into the job to do anything worthwhile?