Clintons donated > $10,000,000 to charity

[MonkeyFunk]

over the last eight years. Just reported on MSNBC.


good for them!

[Whisp]

1. I'll be curious to see which ones...

[Coexist]

8. me too.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

39. The Clinton Foundation.

At least according to my reading of the '06 return.

[PBS Poll-435]

50. That would be fine...

There books are available on the internet already!

[MindMatter]

83. It would be legal.

But it would be far from the vision of sainthood some people are trying to portray.

[MonkeyFunk]

89. Why?

Bill Gates is giving billions to his foundation - the foundation does the work he wants to do. And it's good work. Nothing objectionable about it.

[onenote]

102. have you bothered to check to see how the foundation uses the money?

I doubt it. YOu might look before shooting off your mouth. The foundation gives to a wide variety of charitable institutions -- many local to Arkansas, including churches, hospitals, aids research, breast cancer research, etc.

[MindMatter]

82. I'd be curious to see a comparison to Jimmy Carter

Seems to me these two Presidents have completely different priorities. And if I wanted a President with priorities like these, I would have been voting Republican all along.

[Cant trust em]

2. That's great.

Maybe I can get them on my prospect list. I've got some projects they can work on.

[TK421]

3. LET IT SI....oh, wait...that's awesome!

sorry....slip :D

[MonkeyFunk]

7. lol!

[BeyondGeography]

4. There's an event organizer in Youngstown who would like $25,000 of that

[Cooley Hurd]

I guess the income admission won't sit well for some folks, eh?

;)

[berni_mccoy]

5. < 800,000 per year while they made over 100 million per year. Nice. < 1%

[MonkeyFunk]

9. You're very wrong

they made nowhere close to >100 million per year. That's the total income for the last 8 years.

Their donations were higher than most Americans in that income bracket.

[joshcryer]

12. 10% of their income to charity.

Amazing.

[ericgtr]

30. What's even more amazing is the write off you get from it

If indeed they were truly magnanimous then they deserve credit but where and how need to be looked at first. It is very common to use charities for a write off and even for cover ups. Flame away but I will ask to actually see these details before casting judgment.

[UALRBSofL]

37. Considering they paid 33% in taxes

Those donations didn't help a lot. Now, had it been Halliburton/Bush/Cheney it would have been about 5%.

[joshcryer]

65. Well didn't they give a lot to their own charity?

In some ways that's not as admirable, but then again many of the big philanthripists do that these days. I can see doing it that way, too.

[MonkeyFunk]

73. Dunno

but why not? It's a valid charity, doing work on climate change, AIDS and other health issues.

[onenote]

103. why is it not as admirable?

They give the money to the foundation -- the foundation makes disbursements to charities. THe foundation files tax returns (they've been publicly available all along). The Foundation, I might add, is operated virtually expense free other than the amounts it donates.

[springhill]

119. You are absolutely hilarious............

You are going to wait to make a judgement? And in the next sentence you slander them. As always, even the obviously generous things they do get slammed.

[Cooley Hurd]

17. Oops on the math...

;):hi:

[PBS Poll-435]

18. What math are you using?

The "new" math?

8 years total 10,250,000 +

That would be around 1,281,250.00 + per year.

And at a 8 year TOTAL of 109 Million, that would be nearly 10% per year.


Oh Obama........

[MonkeyFunk]

23. Clinton-hater math

it fucks you up.

[PBS Poll-435]

28. I really worry about them driving &

Operating "Heavy Machinery."

:grr: :nuke:

[rodeodance]

32. I am laughing so hard---That was a good one MF.

[Minimus]

60. your response made me laugh out loud.

[PBS Poll-435]

93. OOPS

Edited because nobody was speaking to me.


(Replied to wrong post)

[berni_mccoy]

84. Ha, I was right. They gave far less than 800 per year UNTIL SHE STARTED RUNNING

75% of that 10 million was given in the last 3-4 years.

[joshcryer]

86. Let's see your link.

[MonkeyFunk]

87. and how much of the income

was during those years?

Remember, they were in debt when they left the White HOuse in 2001.

[berni_mccoy]

80. Looking at the firs 4 returns all had either 800 or far less. They must have given

A large sum in the last few years.

[MonkeyFunk]

88. But you still maintain

that 10,000,000 is 1% of their income?

Is it that hard to admit you're wrong?

[redqueen]

94. That would be ten hundred million, right?

Is that a billion? Ten billion?

I'm math-lazy.

[MonkeyFunk]

96. I think it's

half a brazilian.

[redqueen]

97. ZOMG! They're richer than the pope!

:P

[MonkeyFunk]

110. Don't get me started on the pope!

THAT ignorant whi...

oh, never mind. :P

[redqueen]

114. Hahahahahaha

:D

[Zynx]

100. How does 109 million over 7 years of pre-tax become 100 million a year net?

[MonkeyFunk]

105. because facts don't matter

when it comes to smearing the Clintons. They didn't matter with the right-wing in the 90s, and they don't matter with the haters here now.

If the facts don't match the smear, just lie about the facts.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

6. Hmmm!

[Cooley Hurd]

10. I agree - that's nearly 10% of their monsterous income...

Oh, fuck, I shouldn't have used "monster," no?;)

Seriously, good for them!!!:thumbsup:

[NDambi]

13. lol...lmao...

screw the Clintons

[totodeinhere]

11. That is commendable but...

I wish I had made more than $109 million in the past 10 years so that I could have donated that much too.

So while the Clintons have turned his eight years in the White House into a real cash cow, ordinary Americans continue to struggle to make ends meet. As far as I'm concerned, $109 million is an obscene amount of money.

[MonkeyFunk]

19. Yeah, I wish I did, too

but I didn't. I'm not gonna resent them for it.

John Kerry's worth a lot more, and I don't begrudge him his money, either.

[Tom Rinaldo]

33. Gore and Edwards have made tens of millions in the last 10 years also

Giving away 10 million is still a big deal. They didn't have to be that generous, but they were.

[riskpeace]

62. To be fair

How much does Michelle Obama make? What would that add up to over 8 years?

How much did Senator Obama earn from his books?

More than half of the income came from speeches by President Clinton. Will Senator Obama pledge to avoid paid speeches after he is President?

[emilyg]

116. What stopped you?

[MethuenProgressive]

14. Thats wonderful!

God bless them!

[Zachstar]

15. To what charity?

We need details and there are some that are far more important to the future that desperately need funding.

[bunnies]

16. I dont think 2007 is included in the figures.

2000-2006.

[PBS Poll-435]

20. They have included 2007 in their statement

Where these numbers came from

[bunnies]

41. Thanks for the info! nt

[Maddy McCall]

21. K/R

And sooo much time and effort to charities, too.

They are good folks, and should never be scorned the way they are by "progressives" at DU.

[MonkeyFunk]

25. Yeah

this doesn't even have anything to do with the >100 million he's helped raise for Tsunami and hurricane victims.

[SeaLyons]

22. Very Good For Them.

Go Hillary!!



:kick:

[democrattotheend]

24. Good for them n/t

[Megahurtz]

26. WHAT Charities?

I'd like to see a list otherwise I won't believe it's all good.

[MonkeyFunk]

44. most of it went to the KKK

and the Society for Eugenic Abortion.

Oh, and they fund a non-profit dog-fighting ring.

[PBS Poll-435]

47. Typical

White People....

[Auntie Bush]

106. You mean white fucks?

:shrug: I don't even know who I am anymore.

[Beacool]

68. Good one, Monkey!!!

Around here, they'll always find fault with the Clintons. They are so blinded by the celestial light emanating from their Messiah.

:eyes:

[MonkeyFunk]

90. It's an opportunity

for poor, inner-city dogs to make a name for themselves. Very worthy.

Dog-fighting doesn't HAVE to be the "sport of kings".

[cbayer]

85. Then there's satan, he got a bunch.

They sent it through white supremacist hate groups, because,....well, that's just the kind of people they are.

:rofl:

[AllentownJake]

27. Good for them

We all must remember though it's easier to give 10% of your income when you make 100 million than when you make 50,000.

[Zachstar]

31. Bingo!!

Hits the nail on the head!

Clinton has some explaining to do.

[MonkeyFunk]

48. They gave more than the average

person in their income range, and Bill has raised hundreds of millions more for charity. They don't owe you an explanation.

[Auntie Bush]

107. But how many rich people don't give 10% of their income?

How come the Clintons get RIDICULED for giving 10% of their income to charity? :shrug: Maybe it's called Hillary hatred. You'd certainly never know they were Democrats! I've sadly come to the conclusion that the far left of our party has as many haters as the far right.

[RememberWellstone]

29. Damn, Obama gave how much $$?

Was'nt it 32 dollars and some change?:freak:

[TK421]

35. Hope and some change....and some pocket lint

[PBS Poll-435]

36. Give or take the CHANGE

:-)

[TK421]

38. Oh, and an old life-saver

[PBS Poll-435]

42. It better have been pineapple flavored!

Or I would have disallowed the deduction!

[TK421]

53. lol

pineapple rocks!!!!

[anonymous171]

43. Obama makes WAY less than the Clintons. nt

[RememberWellstone]

49. So he gives hope! Right?

His charity is showing up to college campuses and passes out water bottles to those who faint! What great leader he will be.:eyes:

[anonymous171]

55. lol. And Clinton can't even manage the campaign's budget.

What a great leader she will be. :eyes:

[PBS Poll-435]

56. Thats why people give a percentage of their income

That way it is Apples vs. Apples

Instead of Paper Money vs. Change.

[joeglow3]

67. I make about 30-35% of what Obama did...

...BEFORE his income blew up and I contribute more DOLLAR WISE than he ever did. Kind of pathetic.

[RoadRage]

75. And i'm sure you have a Harvard Law degree that you are paying off as well..

Right? And 2 kids to support..etc?

Don't compare apples to dinosaures - if you don't even know what you're comparing.

[MonkeyFunk]

111. The Clintons' legal bills

dwarfed Obama's student loans.

[RoadRage]

123. What does that have to do with ANYTHING?

The Clinton's legal bills definitely dwarfed Obama's studen't loans. The Clinton's income from the last 7 years also dwarfed Obama's over the past 7 years. I guess i'm not exactly sure what you're trying to point out?

[rinsd]

76. Fuck that. ALL Charity should be commended, don't piss on Obama's worthy contributions.

[KittyWampus]

34. With Bill pimping himself and his days as POTUS out, it's the LEAST they can do.

[The Ghost]

40. Hillary.

Good donor. Not a good potential president.

[enid602]

61. records

But wait a minute; weren't you and your ilk posting 24/7 that Hillary's lateness in posting these financial records was clear and unequivocal proof that she had something to hide, and therefore, was not a good candidate? Poor lady just can't win.

[WilyWondr]

64. Uh, yeah.....$109 million

That is what she was trying to hide.

You think $109 million makes her look more like a regular person?

To some it will make her look like a person considered as having compromised principles for personal gain.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/whore

[MonkeyFunk]

92. LOL

Do you really think it was a secret that Bill makes a lot of money?

You guys are funny.

[WilyWondr]

121. Sorry, but $109mil in 7 years > "a lot of money"

I was expecting the book money and some speech money, but there have to be some really big speech checks in there.

I am sure it will come out..........
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Document_dump

A document dump is the act of responding to an adversary's request for information by presenting the adversary with a large quantity of data that is transferred in a manner that indicates unfriendliness, hostility, or a legal conflict between the transmitter and the receiver of the information. The shipment of dumped documents is unsorted, or contains a large quantity of information that is extraneous to the issue under inquiry, or is presented in a non-timely manner, or some combination of these three characteristics.

An underlying principle of information theory is that information must be comprehensible in order to be useful. One universal characteristic of a document dump is that its shippers intend to retard or slow down the process through which their adversaries can make this information comprehensible. In an effort to minimize negative coverage by the news media, document dumps will often take place at times when reporters are not on duty, such as late on a Friday when media members have left for the weekend.

......eventually.

[The Ghost]

71. my ILK?

I perosnally never raised an issue about the tax returns. I could care less about hers or anyones, on either side of the aisle.

[Bonobo]

45. 10 million is a boatload of money to give to charity! Good for them!

[tishaLA]

46. Was it to Clinton Global Initiative?

Now snarking....I just know Barbra S gives like $1 mil/yr to that one, too.

[Blue_State_Elitist]

51. But they are horrible evil people.

[rox63]

52. That's wonderful

I'm glad they are giving back to the country that has made them so wealthy.

[Symarip]

54. That is disgustingly....

Fantastic.

[workinclasszero]

57. They give 10 million away and don't pay their bills

Huh, what a couple of grifters.

Whats the charity? The Bill Clinton Library? :rofl:

[jefferson_dem]

59. 10%ish. Not bad. But. We. Need. Details.

What were the charities? I don't trust this smarmy duo as far as I can hurl them.

[onenote]

66. here you go; details

The Clintons' charitable donations went to the Clinton Family Foundation, a charitable trust that makes charitable donations. The Foundation files its own separate return, which has been available on line all along. If you want to see them, you can find them here:

http://dynamodata.fdncenter.org/990s/990search/esearch.php


The itemized listing of the charities receiving money from the foundation (which is funded solely by the Clintons) is at the end of the Form 990 for each year.

Some people might get excited about the fact that the amount disbursed by the Foundation generally lags substantially behind the amount that the foundation receives each year. On the other hand, the money remains available for the foundation to donate, so I hope people don't make a bigger deal of that aspect. In any event, the amounts donated by the foundation are substantial, and cover a wide range of recipients, including hospitals, scholarship programs, breast canceer research, aids research, etc. etc.

I'm an Obama supporter and I hope like hell my fellow supporters graciously acknowledge that the Clintons have been very generous and should be applauded for that fact.

[Auntie Bush]

115. Bravo! Thank you for that FAIR comment onenote!

If all the Obama supporters were like you...I may have eventually become an Obama supporter...but their hateful right wing like attacks on a fellow Democrat drove me right into the Hillary camp.

Also, the fact that General Clark believed in her...and he KNEW who the Clintons really were (Not the propaganda spouted on DU and the MSM)...I gave her a serious look. Now I love her and would be proud to have her as the POTUS. By the way...I'd be proud of America if we had a black POTUS too. But I wouldn't be proud of left wing of our party who claim the Clintons are racists.

[Evergreen Emerald]

69. How much of a percentage did Obama give to Charity?

And what charities did he donate to?


Hypocrite.

[joshcryer]

72. 0.4% is what I read.

:shrug:

[jefferson_dem]

74. Get a life, Rodeo.

What did ClintonInc do for the $6 million they "earned" from foreign sources in 2006? What do they owe them? Quid.Pro.Quo.

:shrug:

[Evergreen Emerald]

78. you have such a double standard. I don't understand you

If Obama had given more of a percentage of income to Charity than Clinton, you all would be shouting and peeing your pants about what an evil selfish person Clinton is while Obama is god...


And yet, you ignore the reality. Clinton is a giving awesome person to donate so much to charity.
Obama?

ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.

[jefferson_dem]

79. I don't need these returns to confirm that Hillary is an "evil, selfish person."

If all but a fraction of the so-called "charity" was the Clinton Foundation or the Clinton Library..will you still be chirping about how they are such good Samaritans ... who just happen to "earn" millions of dollars each and every year from foreign sources?

[WilyWondr]

58. Wow. That was fast.

I was wondering how that $109 million would be spun.



whore (hôr, hr)
n.
1. A prostitute.
2. A person considered sexually promiscuous.
3. A person considered as having compromised principles for personal gain.

[jefferson_dem]

81. Yeah. Pay no attention to how they "earned" their dough.

Pay no attention to how much they "earned."

Look at how much they contributed! :popcorn:

Oh...and pay no attention to whom they contributed.

[Auntie Bush]

109. You got a problem with donating 10 M to charity?

If that gives you a problem...you got problems!

[theboss]

63. They apparently tithe...just like my grandma did

I have no criticism of their charitable giving.

I'm just stunned at precisely how rich they are.

[Beacool]

70. That's fantastic and they deserve commendation!!!!!

I hope that the usual suspects limit the amount of vitriol that they usually spew.

Good for both Clintons!!!!

:thumbsup:

[frazzled]

77. 10% is what our accountant once told us is standard

We could never do that much, as our income wasn't that great for many years. The less you earn, the harder it is to give it away, because just the basics take up so much, and you are generally living paycheck to paycheck pretty much.

Even though our income got somewhat better later, we still couldn't make the 10%, because we then had college tuition for two kids at expensive institutions, so our percentage actually went down.

If you are making $20 million in a year, it's not so hard to give away $2 million of it. That still leaves you $18 million before taxes, which is enough for the shelter, food, and clothing, insurance, property taxes, etc., plus a little extra (like a trip to Tahiti and a diamond watch). If you are making $50,000, it's really hard to give away $5,000 of it, because you need every penny for the basics.

[Blue-Jay]

91. That's a factual statement. What conclusions should be drawn?

[MonkeyFunk]

98. That they're generous

[Blue-Jay]

108. True.

[redqueen]

95. That's amazing.

Truly.

I can't even get my head around that number. That's lotto money in my world.

[DaDooRonRon]

99. Mellon-Scaife needed a tax dodge

Can I say that?

[onenote]

101. sure you can say it..if you don't mind looking like a fool, go for it.

[DaDooRonRon]

120. Heck, I don't mind

Being called a fool by some here is akin to being called oblong by a dump truck.

Meaningless.

[onenote]

124. And the supposition is thus proven correct

[MethuenProgressive]

104. God BLESS the Clintons!

That's wonderful!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

112. I love their generosity

[Hepburn]

113. I would be really, really curious to see which charities. n/t

[onenote]

125. then take a look:

http://foundationcenter.org/findfunders/990finder/

Just type in "Clinton Family Foundation" and you can look at the foundation's tax returns which contain (towards the end of each return) an itemized listing of the name, address of each recipient and the amount received.)

If you are in fact really really curious, I'm sure you'll take a look at report back as to what you've seen.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

117. And "earned" an $110,000,000 while in politics.

Presidential salary: $400K
Senatorial salary: $169.3K

Get me to $109M.

[Cronus Protagonist]

118. This thread is proof that the Clintons can do no good

Even when they kick Barry's ass in donations, both by amount and by percentage, Barry's army still won't accept the facts in the matter and be gracious about it.

[TK421]

122. Barry's army....ARMY?

Oh my.....that's a bit scary! :D