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Fri Apr-04-08 04:07 PM
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Obama lies about Kennedy and King: |
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1.In a speech to a Selma, Alabama crowd meant to pump up his civil-rights movement authenticity and his Kennedy Camelot image, Barack Obama claimed that the Kennedy administration paid for his Kenyan father to travel to America on a student scholarship and therefore was responsible for his “very existence”. However, the first march on Selma took place on March 7, 1965. Obama would have been about three and half years old at that time. For some reason the media never did the math on this. Contrary to Obama’s claims in speeches in January at American University and in Selma last year, the Kennedy family did not provide the funding for a September 1959 airlift of 81 Kenyan students to the United States that included Obama’s father.
2.Relating the story of how his parents met, Obama said: “There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Junior was born. So don’t tell me I don’t have a claim on Selma, Alabama.” bloggers pointed out that the Selma bridge protest occurred four years after Obama’s birth.
By 1965, Barack Obama Sr had already abandoned his wife and child and was back in Africa, with his original wife who he never divorced.
When Mitt Romney stated that he saw his father march with Martin Luther King Jr., there was wall to wall media coverage reporting how he had to start backpeddaling. Even after witnesses came forward claiming they had seen his father march with him, the media story of Mitt fabricating the story still persists.
DID Obama get the same media treatment with his lies? HELL NO!
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Fri Apr-04-08 04:09 PM
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1. In other news Hillary lied on four separate occasions about Bosnia, yet blamed all four occasions, |
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including one instance where it was even written down, on a lack of sleep. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Fri Apr-04-08 04:11 PM
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3. Distraction number one... |
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Johnny did it too!
Neener neener!
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Fri Apr-04-08 04:13 PM
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that's usually a shillbot's first line of defense. Hey, if it works for you guys......
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Fri Apr-04-08 04:14 PM
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Fri Apr-04-08 04:20 PM
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13. I love it when I'm called a Shillbot and an Obamaniac in one day! |
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It happens in one thread occassionally...
You Kool Aid swillers are so special.
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Fri Apr-04-08 05:23 PM
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25. It happens to me too. |
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I find it hysterical. It's all about the us v. them mentality around here. There is no longer a *we*. I think those of us who are not firmly planted in one camp or another are looked on the most suspiciously. Weird.
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Fri Apr-04-08 05:37 PM
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you never know who is who until you read a post like yours! i'm always so happy to know i'm not alone!
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Fri Apr-04-08 05:39 PM
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Fri Apr-04-08 06:47 PM
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39. In other news, BenDavid has lifted this whole screed from stoptheaclu.com |
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Go here to find BenDavid's source: http://stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/03/30/more-obama-lies-the-media-will-ignore/Quite a source, huh? I wonder if he has an original thought in his head? I checked this post for originality after I got curious about some words that sounded familiar to me in one of his posts over here.
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Fri Apr-04-08 04:10 PM
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2. Link your facts... this is good work if you can back it up... |
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I hope you can, for your sake.
:hi:
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Fri Apr-04-08 04:14 PM
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7. You guys have never let a little thing like lack of facts stop ya before |
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Fri Apr-04-08 04:21 PM
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You don't have a clue what my deal is... I think both Clinton and Obama suck huge uncut donkey dicks... I voted for Edwards...
Pay attention!
Then go Cheney yourself.
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Fri Apr-04-08 04:26 PM
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16. I enjoy how you sit on the fence and hurl stones at every one... |
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I too am an Edwards supporter, I too could sit here and add nothing productive from fence up on high...but nope, better things to do, like get a Dem elected...
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Fri Apr-04-08 04:43 PM
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21. Keeping an eye on facts is what I do here... |
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Keeping the spewage honest is an art.
I'm not fence sitting... I know who I will vote for in the GE... the Dem nominee... which has not been determined yet.
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Fri Apr-04-08 04:51 PM
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22. I stepped in something, you wanna smell it? n/t |
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Fri Apr-04-08 05:34 PM
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26. You're a klass act... |
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What's next? Pull your finger?
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Fri Apr-04-08 06:16 PM
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And isnt about time you donated to DU? After all, if you have such a lofty position as pointing out the truth to every one, perhaps you could spare a dime or two...
See ya and have a great weekend... I mean that.
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Sat Apr-05-08 03:53 PM
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DONT PRETEND TO BE OBJECTIVE AND THEN ACT LIKE YOU DONT KNOW WHO THE NOMINEE WILL BE.
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Sat Apr-05-08 03:38 PM
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40. well, let me be disingenuous about it |
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go fuck yourself too, oh mighty "Queen of Snark" :rofl:
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Fri Apr-04-08 04:12 PM
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4. just to be a nice guy..pick one |
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Fri Apr-04-08 04:12 PM
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5. Stop it!! don't you know that Obama can do no wrong? |
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He doesn't lie. He doesn't swear. He doesn't fool around. He is Saint Obama. So stop it!!
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Fri Apr-04-08 04:13 PM
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6. one person is repeating family stories, the other person is telling a story |
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Fri Apr-04-08 04:17 PM
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9. Yeah but you lied about Obama not wanting to say the pledge of allegiance. What's that thing about |
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Fri Apr-04-08 04:19 PM
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If Obama misrepresents facts to which he was not, and could not, witness, he is being a bad historian.
If Clinton misrepresents facts to events she experienced, she is being a bad witness. Clinton was immediately in the situation she claimed to represent, and she did so inaccurately and inconsistently.
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Fri Apr-04-08 04:19 PM
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11. what's this I'm hearing about clown sex? |
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It has become very popular these days, what with all the carnies.
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Fri Apr-04-08 04:20 PM
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12. How is this a lie? He just got the dates wrong. |
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To show it's a lie, at the very least you need to show that it was likely that he knew what he said was wrong. And we can do that with the Romney claim since he claimed he actually saw this. We can do that with Hillary's Bosnia lie as well since she claimed this happened to her directly.
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Fri Apr-04-08 05:53 PM
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33. he doesn't know his birthday? |
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or the date of the Selma march? He doesn't know what year his father left his mother? I can see the wrong date on the airlift, mythology is powerful, and o growing up people tend to embellish such things. That's fine. 1959 of 1960, who cares? But I am fairly certain obama was born in 1961 or 62 (on my phone so can't check it but will correct) how does something that happened three years after his birth affect his parents getting together? He's a smart guy, right? That's not a mistake.
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Fri Apr-04-08 04:21 PM
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My office is under sniper fire. Must run to water cooler for shelter.
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Fri Apr-04-08 04:32 PM
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and I have to go check what my my America-hating Racist preacher has to say about this!
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Fri Apr-04-08 04:28 PM
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17. Look Ma.....a Sock Monkey! |
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Fri Apr-04-08 04:39 PM
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19. Historical dates DO matter. That's why we memorize them in school. |
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If Obama got it wrong, that tells me that he doesn't particularly care about the event (not the cause, the event). Dates are very relevant. I wasn't born in 1941, but I know when Pearl Harbor Day is, and if I am studying events that occurred around that date, I date them before or after.
I actually think it was quite a blunder on his part. Knowing if something happened before or after you were born is pretty big, especially when you are making a claim on that event. That could have been very easily fact checked.
This story was in our paper and got no traction on the airwaves.
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Fri Apr-04-08 04:39 PM
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20. B.S., meet Snopes. Snopes, B.S. |
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/saywhat.aspWhen I first received this specious crap in a RW e-mail, I forwarded kit & kaboodle to Snopes. Just doin' my part to keep it real.
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Fri Apr-04-08 05:07 PM
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24. You should post this in a thread of it's own |
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Fri Apr-04-08 05:50 PM
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32. Amazing how rightwing talking points bubble up from the sewer. I think |
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this OP is an example of "When keeping it real goes wrong."
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Sat Apr-05-08 03:44 PM
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42. Thank you! I hate false character assassination. |
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Fri Apr-04-08 05:35 PM
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27. You know BenDavid I try to be respectful of people who post ignorant blather |
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Edited on Fri Apr-04-08 05:36 PM by OhioBlues
and I will still be respectful of you but your post is racist, sexist and mean spirited. In fact fuck your post it's made up crap. :nuke:
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Fri Apr-04-08 05:39 PM
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30. So you're trashing Obama and defending Mitt Romney now? |
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I tell you, it's harder and harder to tell the difference between Clinton supporters and Republicans.
As to Obama, you can only make it a "lie" if you change what he said. He never said that his parents met at Selma the way the Clintonites claim. He was using Selma as an analogy for the history of the civil rights movement.
And yes, the specific airlift that his father came in on was not in fact paid for by the Kennedys--though they DID fund the project, starting in 1959. Give the man a break for not knowing the accounting details of an inititive from before he was born.
That's also a far cry from making up out of whole cloth a SNIPER ATTACK against you and your TEENAGE DAUGHTER.
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Fri Apr-04-08 06:15 PM
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34. BenDavid and Hillary lie about everything. |
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Fri Apr-04-08 06:17 PM
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37. Obama gets a free pass on all this stuff, didnt you know that? Only Clinton gets nailed for "lies" |
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Fri Apr-04-08 06:25 PM
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38. It's disgusting that he gets away with so much. All Obama ever does is lie. |
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He wakes up lying and he goes to bed lying.
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Sat Apr-05-08 03:41 PM
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41. You are calling one of our candidates a Liar. SHAME ON YOU!!!! |
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You can join that freeper group now!
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