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Fri Apr-04-08 05:35 PM
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"Boys used to say that to me all the time" Hill on Ellen Degeneres |
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This was in response to Ellen asking her how it feels to be asked to quit the race. Now we can wait for Obama to say "White people..........." What a crock! C'mon Hillary, quit the poor little girl act.
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Fri Apr-04-08 05:36 PM
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1. Her candidacy has always been about the first woman president. |
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Obama would lose automatically if did that type of thing.
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Fri Apr-04-08 05:44 PM
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11. Yeah? I think so too. Obama saying he wants to be the first woman President. |
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But the implication that he'd be the first black President has fared just as well for him. :hi:
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Fri Apr-04-08 05:59 PM
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18. I understand, but he doesn't broadcast that fact like she does. |
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It's like she constantly has to remind everyone that she is a woman.
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Fri Apr-04-08 06:23 PM
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22. It is different, you're right. |
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I think it points to two different challenges for them.
She needs to appear strong and tough enough to be president. People are probably less worried about a woman president being too strong than too weak. And, everybody either is a woman and/or was born from one, has female family members, etc.; far fewer are black and/or have intimate family connections with someone black.
It's a different challenge for Obama. He might believe that if he continually emphasized being black, too many other voters might be put off. There's also a different dynamic about the "strength" issue. He could certainly say he fought discrimination to get where he is, as Clinton has, to show pride and strength; but as I understand it anyway, too many Americans are fearful of the strength they perceive in young black men. So, I'm no sociologist but I think it's something like that. It wouldn't work for him; if it did, he'd be doing it.
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Fri Apr-04-08 05:36 PM
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2. boys used to tell her to quit? |
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Fri Apr-04-08 05:41 PM
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8. Hey, I remember boys in preschool telling me to stay out of the sandbox. |
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When they explained they were digging for buried treasure, I told them there wasn't any and left.
In kindergarten, girls weren't allowed to use the one tricycle. (Yes, we had a tricycle in the classroom.) That was because the boys needed it to get their energy out or something, and there was a play house for the girls.
I could go on!
So I dunno what she was doing, but I don't think it's unfair to say, especially with a smile. I think she says it as a show of pride and strength, not at all "poor me."
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Fri Apr-04-08 05:57 PM
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17. I was asking a serious question |
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was she running for class president or something? I'm unclear what she means by that. If she was talking about unequal treatment for girls and boys, ok, but why "quit"?
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Fri Apr-04-08 06:06 PM
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She's older than me, and even I remember a lot of pressure from boys to quit one thing and another. That was my point.
I just think she was trying to show toughness in a way.
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Fri Apr-04-08 05:46 PM
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13. you really do your candidate proud |
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Fri Apr-04-08 05:43 PM
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10. Whatever it was, she must have been really bad at it. |
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Fri Apr-04-08 06:26 PM
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Fri Apr-04-08 05:48 PM
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15. I didn't watch the show, but I'm guessing... |
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...it was supposed to be double-entendre, like when she was in high school boys would tell her to quit resisting their sexual advances.
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Fri Apr-04-08 05:36 PM
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3. Leisure Suit Hillary. she's just not with the times. |
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most all these supposed little gems of humor sound like old dust in an attic.
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Fri Apr-04-08 05:37 PM
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4. Yeah, all little girls should look up to her as an example: playing the victim and gender cards at e |
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Fri Apr-04-08 05:40 PM
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6. And don't forget the crying |
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the freakin' phony-ass crying
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Fri Apr-04-08 05:37 PM
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5. Patriots said 'Please don't deep-six BCCI matters to protect BushInc and Jackson Stephens' |
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Edited on Fri Apr-04-08 05:38 PM by blm
but the Clintons did it anyway all throughout the 90s. Just as Jackson Stephens groomed them to do in Arkansas.
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Fri Apr-04-08 05:40 PM
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7. I still cannot understand why they weren't held to the fire on that. |
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Unless it gets back to ownership, pure and simple.
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Fri Apr-04-08 05:46 PM
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14. Newspapers and broadcast media would pick to death anything BUT any matter related to Bush1 |
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and Jackson Stephens. BTW, ever see the US broadcast news media's palatial digs in Dubai?
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Fri Apr-04-08 05:56 PM
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16. Dubai? No, but I know these two guys... |
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who lease that little patch of land (shed, hay bales, etc.,) in Crawford to the teevee folks.
It is about ten yards from the school parking lot. Back when it was advantageous for the little man to be perceived as a True Texan Clearer of Brush, they would hold the kids in the school as long as Suzanne, David, et al, were standing there reading press releases into the camera.
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Fri Apr-04-08 05:45 PM
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12. More gender warfare from the "Vote for me, I'm a girl!" candidate. |
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Fri Apr-04-08 05:59 PM
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19. I think it is sad how she tries to play that gender card. Obama would be chased out of town if |
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he tried to say "White people used to say that to me all the time. I'm used to it."
Outrageous play on being the victim. Sort of shameless.
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Fri Apr-04-08 06:10 PM
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21. I think she meant it as a statement of strength and pride. |
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She's made other statements like this that I see as a way of trying to show toughness, tenacity, etc. I see it as the opposite of "poor little girl."
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