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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 06:36 PM
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The Clintons have released 30 years of tax returns...more than any other
public service folks. Get a grip, Clinton haters there is nothing going to hurt HRC concerning her tax return. What will you now be chomping at the bit about?

http://www.comcast.net/news/articles/general/2008/04/04/NEWS-USA-POLITICS-CLINTON-TAXES-DC/
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 06:38 PM
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1. And to give $10,237,741.00 to charity! That's amazing!
Nice people!
peace!
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 06:39 PM
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2. They should be giving alot more with how much they earn. n/t
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 06:41 PM
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5. If they gave 20 mill
the HRC haters would think they should give 21 mill

IF they gave 30, the haters would think they should give 31 mill

If they gave 40, the haters would think they should give 41 mill

:eyes:
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:13 PM
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25. You got that right.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:42 PM
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35. given the fucking poverty in the world. no one should have that much
money. fuck that.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 03:51 PM
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36. But people do.
And not all of them are named Clinton.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 06:46 PM
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10. you folks have been whining for months and got zip!1 HA HA HA-SUCK ON THAT
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:01 PM
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16. That's what is the most annoying. She got hit for it and there was nothing there.
She could have avoided a whole talking point by getting this done with earlier. Again, it's not what is actually damaging to a candidate, but the lack of knowledge makes it seem like there was something there. I'm glad that there aren't any skeletons in the closet, but there shouldn't have been a closet in the first place...so to speak.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:41 PM
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34. BO just put his out last week (all but the one year that was already out).
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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:11 PM
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23. Except More Clinton Hypocrisy
"Speeches don't put food on the table. Speeches don't fill up your tank, or fill your prescription, or do anything about that stack of bills that keeps you up at night."
Hillary Clinton
Lordstown, Ohio - February 14, 2008
ABC News


According to a summary of the seven years provided by the campaign, the former president's speech income since he left the White House totals $51.85 million!
Associated Press/MSMBC - April 4, 2008


Mmmm.

Ha!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 06:47 PM
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12. You got zip from their returns, Now you cry about their charity. Stop the whining.
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 06:41 PM
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6. I am sure it is all a letdown for those who thought they had something to hide.
They were hiding the fact that they are extremely charitable!! :rofl:
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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 06:39 PM
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3. 30 years, but not this years for some reason. It was this year's that were actually requested.
Edited on Fri Apr-04-08 06:41 PM by malik flavors
And their charity donations went to their own foundation.
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 06:44 PM
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9. The filing date for this year is April 15, 2008. Get a grip! nt
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 06:52 PM
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13. The Clintons give to chairitable organizations THROUGH the the Clinton Foundation
The William Jefferson Clinton Foundation is a charitable trust.
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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 06:57 PM
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14. How much of the 10 million stayed in the foundation, and how much went out?
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:17 PM
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29. Here you go - check for yourself:
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jlpohio69 Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:04 PM
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18. Obama also has not released this years tax return
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080404/ap_on_el_pr/clinton_taxes;

"Clinton has been under pressure to release her tax returns, especially from rival Sen. Barack Obama, who posted his 2000 to 2006 returns on his campaign Web site last week. Neither Obama nor Republican Sen. John McCain has made their 2007 tax returns public, though both say they will this month."

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Rincewind Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 06:40 PM
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4. How come
the main stream media haven't called on McCain to release his tax returns? Let's see who has been slipping ol' Johnny some bucks.
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 06:43 PM
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7. Once they are nominated.............
.....I believe they are required to submit their tax returns.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:08 PM
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20. you notice, nobody has made the "observation" that McCain made his fortune the old-fashioned way
by marrying a rich woman ...

Gee, that was such a talking point in 2004 ...
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 06:44 PM
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8. People should just lay off all overpaid celebrities
They're only taking what is theirs.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 06:47 PM
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11. But in typical Clinton fashion
She dragged her feet and released them after much prodding. By now, the damage to public opinion has been done. This campaign has absolutely no sense of public relations.

It doesn't matter how much she made or how much of their disposable income they gave to charity. By dragging her heels for so long, she has already planted in people's minds the seed of doubt and the idea that they were hiding something. That is very hard to overcome.

This campaign is its own worst enemy.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:02 PM
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17. It's upsetting to some that there was no "secret evil" to discover.
Sorry!
Peace!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:08 PM
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21. Next year will show the 20 million from Yucaipa via Dubai royal who staked BCCI
to a large degree and who was likely extremely grateful to Bill for deep-sixing BCCI matters the way he did throughout the 90s for the involved parties like GHWBush, Jackson Stephens, Dubai and Saudi royals, Marc Rich, Bin Ladens, AQ Khan, Adnan Kashoggi, James Bath and others.

20 million for deep-sixing BCCI matters is a pretty good pay off. Didn't work out so well for the party, this nation and the rest of the world, though, did it?
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:14 PM
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26. You GO Miss Cleo!!!
Tell me, what's the lotto numbers this week?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:16 PM
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27. You want to pretend Yucaipa DIDN'T pay out 20 million to Clinton recently and that the
Edited on Fri Apr-04-08 07:39 PM by blm
money DIDN'T come from Dubai?

Seriously, ronny - is THAT your position?
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:17 PM
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28. No hun .... and it's "Ronny".
You seem to have a great gift to seeing the future. Damn, call Miss Dionne you kids can start the Newtork back up with your talent!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:24 PM
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30. The future is NEXT YEAR'S TAXES. The 20 mil payout was THIS year and posted here
Edited on Fri Apr-04-08 08:14 PM by blm
at DU at the time.



PAGE ONE

Bill Clinton May Get Payout of $20 Million
By JOHN R. EMSHWILLER
January 22, 2008; Page A1

Former President Clinton stands to reap around $20 million -- and will sever a politically sensitive partnership tie to Dubai -- by ending his high-profile business relationship with the investment firm of billionaire friend Ron Burkle.

Mr. Clinton is negotiating to end his relationship with Mr. Burkle's Yucaipa Cos. as part of a broader effort to protect the presidential campaign of his wife, Sen. Hillary Clinton, from potential conflicts of interest. Details of Mr. Clinton's involvement in Yucaipa and his efforts to unwind it come from documents and interviews with people familiar with the matter.


The former president has had links to Yucaipa since early 2002, when Mr. Burkle -- a longtime friend and political contributor -- offered him a role there. Mr. Clinton's association with the firm began at a time when he was looking to earn large amounts of money, partly to pay heavy legal bills accumulated to defend himself and Mrs. Clinton from several investigations during his presidency.

Now, as he negotiates with Yucaipa to withdraw from the relationship, he is a wealthy man, thanks partly to tens of millions of dollars he has earned making speeches around the world.

Mr. Clinton initially signed on with Mr. Burkle as a senior adviser to closely held Yucaipa. As part of that arrangement, Mr. Burkle agreed to give Mr. Clinton a share of the profits from two Yucaipa domestic investment funds if their returns reached a certain threshold. Mr. Clinton's adviser arrangement ended in early 2007, five years after it began. But Mr. Clinton still hasn't settled the issue of his payout.
>>>>>

The deals were announced in February and March 2007, respectively -- around the time Mr. Clinton's involvement as an adviser to the domestic funds was set to expire. By not closing out his Yucaipa relationship before those sales were completed, President Clinton probably increased the amount of money ultimately due him, say people familiar with such transactions.

Mr. Clinton is also looking to close out partnership interests in a Yucaipa fund that focuses on investing in foreign companies. This fund -- called Yucaipa Global Partnership Fund LP -- has raised several hundred million dollars from a range of investors. Unlike his deal to advise the two Yucaipa domestic funds, Mr. Clinton invested an undisclosed sum of his own money in the global fund and has a limited partnership interest.

Mr. Clinton is also one of three owners of the global fund's general partner. The others are Mr. Burkle, who is the managing member, and an entity connected to the ruler of Dubai, Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid al-Maktoum.

Severing the tie to Dubai, a U.S. ally, will remove a potentially tricky problem for Mrs. Clinton. Questions raised about the activities of sovereign wealth funds -- giant pools of money controlled by foreign governments -- have become a campaign issue, as the funds have made a spate of multibillion-dollar investments in such corporate giants as Citigroup Inc. and Merrill Lynch & Co. In a recent interview with The Wall Street Journal, Mrs. Clinton said such purchases are "a source of concern," partly because the foreign funds "lack transparency" and could be used by foreign governments as "instruments of foreign policy."
>>>>>



Pretend all you want ron, but, that same Dubai money also staked a large share of BCCI. And you are welcome to show me using Bill's book what he decided to do with all the outstanding matters on BCCI throughout the 90s. I'm all ears.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:07 PM
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19. No one in their right mind would release that much paperwork
without fully vetting it first.

Tax returns for the rich and famous only resemble those submitted by the rest of us by virtue of the title... They are all called tax returns, and that's all they have in common.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 06:58 PM
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15. 30 years!!! What took them so long? That's it. Must be crooked.
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LulaMay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:10 PM
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22. They gave more of their income to charity than most, and paid over 30% in taxes.
Ooohhh.......such evil!


Everyone who made that insinuation looks like an ass.
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:13 PM
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24. Uhhh....uhh, well, there is that phony sniper fire shit we can post about!
Edited on Fri Apr-04-08 07:13 PM by TK421
How 'bout that?
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WHAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:27 PM
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31. What happened to 2007?
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moriah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:34 PM
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33. Uh, they aren't DUE yet...
And from what I understand (and I may be wrong) Obama hasn't released his 2007 tax return yet either.

But again, I may be wrong.
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:31 PM
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32. And now, the vetting begins.
Across America, the RW, the 4th estate, and the opposition candidacy will be scrutinizing those returns with a fine tooth comb. Your "nothing going to hurt HRC concerning her tax return." (sic) is most assuredly 'annuncio prematuro'... wait for it. We'll chat again next week. ;)
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 03:55 PM
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37. They'll all be looking to Drudge
to go into his hidey hole of bullshit and try to slander her with something else.

Bill and Hill suckered all of them right into the blackberry patch, now they all have an ass full of briars :rofl:
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 03:57 PM
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38. They will follow the Dan Burton model and ask for something else.
Like her medical records to see if she ever had an abortion or got treated for VD.
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