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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:15 PM
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I hate John McCain more today than ever
McCain has raised my ire even more than eve before, first of all how dare he go to that place for any purpose, this is a man that fought against Martin Luther King day, but not only how dare he stand there, HOW DARE THAT SON OF A BITCH STAND THERE HAVING A BLACK MAN HOLDING AN UMBRELLA OVER HIS HEAD as the man got rained on.

I am so pissed off, we need to come together, aim all the Democratic wrath of every issue WE own and bury that man in the election.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:17 PM
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1. I know how ya feel.
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:23 PM
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5. I know how ya feel too, BUT the more our Dem candidates tear each other apart. tthe better
that SOB McCain looks to the public!!!
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:19 PM
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2. I actually laughed out loud when I saw that.
That he has not one single person on his campaign who would tell him how WRONG that was is totally amazing.
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constantino Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:23 PM
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6. I'm lost right now
What is it that you are talking about? Did McCain do or say something racist?
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:26 PM
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12. think he was in Memphis today nt
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:28 PM
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13. He gave a speech in Memphis to commemorate the 40th anniversary of the MLK shooting
It was in front of a predominantly black crowd, who were understandably not too pleased with him speaking on the subject, since he originally voted against making MLK Day a federal holiday. It was meant to be building of bridges between the presumptive Republican nominee and the African-American voting public.

And John McCain gave the speech with a black man holding an umbrella over his head.
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constantino Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:34 PM
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17. Did McCain say anything racist during the speech?
I'd like to see a transcript, if possible.
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:37 PM
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19. It wasnt about racism, it was a lack of decorum and respect.
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:44 PM
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20. No.
But it looked a little clueless, to say the least.
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 10:13 PM
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26. He tried to explain to the folks why he voted against MLK Day..
as a national holiday.
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:24 PM
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7. Exactly I generally don't see race, but this blatant disregard of a little decorum is ridculous
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FightingIrish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:20 PM
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3. Dick Cheney without the deferments
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:22 PM
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4. HOW DARE YOU to imply that black man was not there holding the umbrella
of his own free will.

What an insult YOU are making of him.
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:45 PM
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21. Who said the umbrella-holding man was there against his will?
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:56 PM
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23. why is the OP so 'outraged' then?
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 12:06 AM
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29. It's about McCain's cluelessness.
I don't see where you're getting the implication from the OP that the guy was there against his will. What was in the post that makes you think this? Am I missing something?
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 08:14 AM
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31. More like the OP is clueless
so what if the guy holding the umbrella was black?


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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 08:31 AM
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32. It looked very bad to have a black man in what was essentially a servile role.
Imagine if John McCain had something in his history that made him look like a misogynist, like if he had voted against some piece of legislation aimed at strengthening women's rights. Then imagine that in an attempt to paper over this and get the support of more female voters, he goes to give a speech about the historical significance of the women's suffrage movement. The speech is given outdoors, and it starts raining.

Then imagine that he tries to give this speech about women's rights while a woman is holding an umbrella over his head. Having her in what is essentially a servile position is glaringly contradictory to what he's trying to articulate in his speech. Whether she's there of her free will or not isn't the issue. It just looks bad, and it undercuts whatever he's trying to say in support of women's rights.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:35 AM
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33. it would look worse if he told the city he didn't want a black man
and asked for a white person to assist him

the OP is making up BS to be 'outraged' over
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:00 AM
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34. Defending McCain now?
:crazy:
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:24 PM
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8. So...
It would have been better if he had a white man stand there?

I think it's ludicrous that he had to have anyone hold an umbrella for him, but what difference does it make if the man was black, white, Asian, gay, straight, whatever? Or if was was a woman? A person is just that. A person. No race, no gender, etc. Everyone deserves equal treatment.
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:26 PM
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11. Its not the racism, its the lack of decorum, we already have that in our current President
we dont need 4 more years of the Bush regime
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:35 PM
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18. Lack of Decorum?
How so? Who is the man? Was he paid to be there? Did he volunteer to be there? Should McCain have said, Sorry, you can't be here, it wouldn't look proper?

I'm sorry, I don't understand how it's a lack of decorum that Dr. King fought for rights for all, but when the time comes we snipe at how it's not right that a man be given the opportunity to do a job.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:25 PM
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9. That image will make a good 527 ad.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:25 PM
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10. I Hate John McCheney, don't know John McCain. nt
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:28 PM
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14. Hate is not a sentiment Dr. King would approve of
Disagree with him, find what he did today pandering, oppose his policies, but I don't think you have to "hate" him.

The people there today said "We forgive you." I don't think that means they would ever vote for him or support his policies, or even find what he said all that sincere. But he went and said I was wrong. He should have said it a decade ago, not when he is running for the presidency. Feel sorry for him, say he's wrong. But today is not the day to say you hate someone. That's just not necessary.

(And that goes for both of our Democratic nominees, too. We don't hate either one of them. We may prefer one to the other, but they do not deserve a sentiment like hate.)
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:34 PM
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16. Thank you frazzled
It was a knee jerk response to not only McCain but what the ignorance of a little decorum meant in context of what the continuation of the Bush regime means.

Thank you for the center.
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:32 PM
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15. How 'bout that for character. What kind of "Man" is this McCain?
Can't he hold his own umbrella?

Given McCain's anti-MLK day view, he's sort of like that fabel where he won't help grow the food, but he'll help eat it. He's just another worthless POS like bush.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:47 PM
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22. The difference is that we have known that many in the GOP are poseurs
when it comes to what they feel about MLK's legacy. My ire is with the fact that there are so many in the Democratic party that are no different in all truth. That's the problem that I have. There is no outrage in what I have experienced recently, based on what I have heard and read, only disgust and sadness.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 10:04 PM
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24. Cut McCain Some Slack
At his age, you know, he's more prone to getting influenza and pneumonia - it's better for him not to take chances. Something that would just be a little cold most Americans could easily shake off could land him in the hospital.
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 10:06 PM
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25. McCain did show a lot of guts going over there today. He could have skipped Memphis.
Give him credit for showing up. I know, I know: he only showed up there for appearances sake, but he faced up to his past vote.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 10:25 PM
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27. What bullshit!
It sounds like he's approving of civil disobedience. Notice that he worked in a reference to Iran.

--IMM
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 11:48 PM
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28. McCain's great-great grandfather owned slaves
But the most amazing part of the quote below is how clueless McCain was when somebody pointed that out to him.

http://archive.salon.com/politics2000/feature/2000/02/15/mccain

Feb. 15, 2000

The family's storied military history stretches back to Carroll County, Miss., where McCain's great-great grandfather William Alexander McCain owned a plantation, and later died during the Civil War as a soldier for the Mississippi cavalry. But what McCain didn't know about his family until Tuesday was that William Alexander McCain had owned 52 slaves. The senator seemed surprised after Salon reporters showed him documents gathered from Carroll County Courthouse, the Carrollton Merrill Museum, the Mississippi State Archives and the Greenwood, Miss., Public Library.

"I didn't know that," McCain said in measured tones wearing a stoic expression during a midday interview, as he looked at the documents before Tuesday night's debate. "I knew they had sharecroppers. I did not know that." . . .

"I knew we fought in the Civil War," McCain went on. "But no, I had no idea. I guess thinking about it, I guess when you really think about it logically, it shouldn't be a surprise. They had a plantation and they fought in the Civil War so I guess that it makes sense."

"It's very impactful," he said of learning the news. "When you think about it, they owned a plantation, why didn't I think about that before? Obviously, I'm going to have to do a little more research."

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Bzzzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 07:00 AM
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30. Did Anyone Else...
see McCain snicker during his speech? Totally inappropriate.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:11 AM
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35. Wow. It's going to feel like justice when Obama wipes the floor with him!
What a load of human garbage!

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AmericanUnity Donating Member (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 03:48 AM
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36. DR. STRANGELOVE
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