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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 11:27 PM
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The Dirt Within The Clinton's Taxes. Cronies Funnel Money To Bill AND Hillary- Plus Tax Havens.
Edited on Fri Apr-04-08 11:43 PM by cryingshame
There's a core of cronies giving money to both Bill AND Hillary. This may not be "illegal" but it's dirty money.

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The considerable crossover between the couple's decades of political fundraising and their personal profit also extended at times to the former president's charity work and his presidential library, though many records related to those remain secret. What is clear is that numerous financial patrons -- individuals as well as large corporations -- repeatedly emerge in the Clintons' circle.

Chief among them is Burkle, the founder of the Yucaipa investment firm, who not only has provided Bill Clinton with a hefty source of income during his post-presidency but also ranks as one of Sen. Clinton's "Hillraisers," a title given to those who raise more than $100,000 for her presidential bid. Burkle has held fundraisers for her at his Beverly Hills estate, and also made six-figure donations to independent political groups, such as Emily's List, that are supporting her.

The tax returns show Bill Clinton's partnership with Burkle, at various arms of his Yucaipa firm, yielding in excess of $1 million a year, starting in 2003. In 2005, Clinton collected $5 million from those investments, and more than $2.5 million in each of the past two years. The former president served as a senior adviser to the private firm, helping Burkle land investors and identify business opportunities. The Wall Street Journal reported that Clinton started to unwind the relationship earlier this year and could ultimately receive a payout worth about $20 million.

Another recurring character is InfoUSA founder Vinod Gupta, who has contributed to the Clinton library, donated money to Sen. Clinton's White House bid and hired the former president as a consultant. Last year, InfoUSA paid Bill Clinton $400,000. Legal papers that surfaced last year showed that he earned more than $3 million from the firm, which sells consumer data to telemarketers and other businesses.

The former president's speaking career also gave supporters opportunities to boost the couple's bottom line. Even as Sen. Clinton campaigned for office, her husband earned more than $10 million for his speeches. But the tax returns do not reveal who hired him to speak.

Sen. Clinton's financial disclosure forms have offered a glimpse into her husband's speaking career and the nexus between his clients and her campaign donors. The New York investment giant Goldman Sachs paid him $650,000 for four speeches in recent years. Its employees and its political action committee have donated more than $440,000 to the senator's presidential campaign, putting the firm second on the list of her most generous political patrons, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

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The banking firm Citigroup, whose employees and PAC rank third among Hillary Clinton's campaign donors, with more than $388,000, paid her husband $250,000 for a speech in France in 2004. In 2006, the firm committed $5.5 million to the Clinton Global Initiative, which encourages entrepreneurship and financial education among the poor.

While the tax returns offer the most illuminating look to date at the Clintons' finances, the picture is incomplete. They sought an extension for their 2007 return and disclosed a breakdown compiled by their tax attorney.

In 2006, tax returns detail $2.65 million in income from Bill Clinton's partnership with Burkle. But Sen. Clinton's campaign did not release a separate filing known as Schedule K-1, which could reveal more income after write-offs, said Dean Zerbe, national managing director of Alliant Group tax consultants.

The Clintons' 2006 tax return shows that, through a blind trust, the couple acquired an interest of an undisclosed size in a private investment fund known as the Quellos Alpha Engine, based in the Cayman Islands. At the time, the fund was controlled by the Quellos Group of Seattle, one of the world's largest managers of mutual funds made up of hedge funds. Hollywood mogul Haim Saban is one of the biggest investors in Quellos and is also one of Hillary Clinton's most prolific fundraisers.

A 2006 investigation into abusive tax shelters by the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations reported that Quellos used offshore shell companies to engage in fake transactions that generated billions of dollars in capital losses on paper. One series of transactions, the report said, erased more than $2 billion in capital gains that would have been taxed, costing the U.S. Treasury hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue.


A Quellos official was quoted at the time as saying that lawyers had approved the transactions and that the Senate findings were unfair. There is no indication that the Clintons benefited from the transactions criticized in the report. In October, BlackRock acquired the Quellos Group. The Clintons have sold off all of the investments from their blind trust.

Should Sen. Clinton reach the White House, her husband's ability to continue to tap many of these income sources will be severely limited. From a legal standpoint, accepting money from any company that is regulated by the federal government could create problems, said Robert K. Kelner, an ethics specialist with the D.C. law firm Covington & Burling.

The tangle of relationships would make it "very complicated," he said. "I would say it's largely a question of appearances, public relations and politics, and less a matter of Hillary Clinton actually suffering any legal liability because of his action.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/04/AR2008040403927.html?hpid=topnews
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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 11:32 PM
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1. If Burkle is indicted for a crime you might have a beef.He isnt a Rezko.Hes a prominent Dem
Edited on Fri Apr-04-08 11:33 PM by MojoMojoMojo
Supporter.And very successful ,so what.
Obama is financed by a criminal .Do you understand the nuance?
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 11:36 PM
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5. Is this really what you want....making excuses all the time for your
candidate...
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 11:36 PM
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6. delete..
Edited on Fri Apr-04-08 11:38 PM by movonne
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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 11:59 PM
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18. Have you already forgoten Hsu? Yea, him. He's in prison right now.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 11:59 PM
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Obama and Rezko are getting a pass from the media. For now. (eom)
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 07:00 AM
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30. it`s online from chicago papers everyday the trial is in session
right now the key witness against rezko is telling the jury about his drug use. seems the prosecutions star witness was quite the drug abuser...oh yes, no mention of obama for days...
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 06:55 AM
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27. he is? really? all those millions of people who have
contributed to obama are criminals? good thing i have`t given him any money cause i`d be a criminal too..
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 11:33 PM
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2. I'm sure this is all just a misspeak, and can all be dispelled, right?
I've read there's nothing to this!
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Candido77 Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 11:33 PM
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3. Funny, the Washington Post article you link to finds nothing curious about your "facts"
Note how the Washington Post's headline is simply "Clintons earned $109 million in 8 years", while your title in this thread talks about 'dirt'. Nothing in the article suggests wrong doing.

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 11:34 PM
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4. Gupta was SUED for giving huge amounts of money to Bill Clinton for doing nothing.
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Candido77 Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 11:45 PM
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10. Tell me more. What was the outcome of the lawsuit?
And was Clinton sued as well?

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 11:36 PM
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7. Oh, and maybe you missed the bit about the Quellos Group of Seattle
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 11:41 PM
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8. It's a good way to get around campaign finance laws.
I just commented on this in another thread. The fat cats who have contributed to the Clinton campaign are subject to campaign finance laws and can legally contribute only so much. So they get around that by paying Bill millions for speaking engagements. That's a very convenient arrangement. No wonder they resisted releasing their tax forms.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 11:44 PM
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9. Like it or not, Clinton is our "Reagan," and each time an obama
democrat slimes Clinton, they're saying, "Even our best president in 60 years is slime," so why should
any undecided voter go with the party whose best is a "f-ing racist whore bastard?"(that is what obama supporters in here believe about both clintons) Could I get an Obama fan to answer that. Reagan was a scumbag who hated gays and women and the poor. He sold weapons to terrorists after making a deal with them to fuck the 1980 vote, yet the Republicans honor him and praise him and defend him and deify him.

Meanwhile, Democrats slime their heroes.

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Blue State Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 01:34 AM
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22. You seem apt at putting words in our mouths.
I recall, since my first civics classes, that we have had the choice between bad and worse. I agree, Bill Clinton was the best we had in my lifetime, but that don't mean that we can't do better.

I, as many, many Obama supporters here have said, respecting Clinton does not mean I have to vote for her. And if you feel that not voting for her, or vocalizing our mistrust and misgivings of her and Bill is disrespectful, or worse, then you have just realized what it is that has turned so many of us against her.

We just spent 8 years under a "president" who demands loyalty; who equates disloyalty to betrayal. Sound familiar?

Reagan was not the only one who wreaked havoc on our country, it has been EVERY President since. Reagan did not sign NAFTA. Reagan did not arm the mujahadin in Bosnia. Reagan did not finnish off the free media. These are Clinton's legacies.

So next time you see Bill Clinton paling around with Bush 41, or Hillary Clinton being endorsed by the same guy who started that bullshit story about Vince Foster's death, you think about how that looks to us, and the world.

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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 11:47 PM
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11. Some news programs are already reporting on this.
It won't be fun for the Clintons. I am really surprised they released their tax returns.
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Candido77 Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 11:51 PM
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12. This is old news (from 2007)
Google "burkle" and "gupta" and you will find tons of articles referring to this case. I don't know why the OP gives the impression that this is somehow some new development.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 11:53 PM
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15. Sorry, I don't care about the outcome..Just like with Razko, all they need is the suspicion of
wrong doing to run on. This was the meme from all HRC supporters. Obama guilty or not won't make a difference. At least he has one Rezko, she seems to have 20 of them. Guilty or not, the swiftboaters don't give a damn.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 07:02 AM
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31. first you say it's nothing. Now you say it's old news. This was NEVER covered extensively.
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 07:03 AM by cryingshame
It was reported and then went promptly into the Memory Hole.

No coverage ala Wright or Rezko.

And there's a lot more "there", there.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 11:51 PM
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13. All those connections will really hurt her in the GE. How was she going to run with all those shady
deals? The GOP will destroy her.
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Candido77 Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 11:55 PM
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16. Why are the Clintons not in jail?
Edited on Fri Apr-04-08 11:55 PM by Candido77
It will hurt her, just like Whitewater, right?

Or perhaps you want to be on record predicting the Clintons to be charged with wrong-doing or ethics breach in the senate (for Hillary).
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 11:57 PM
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17. I don't care, Obama is not in Jail or even part of the Rezko law suit, yet we all know that GOP
doesn't require you to be guilty to swiftboat you, all they need is the suspicion of guilt to make you look guilty in the eyes of people.
Obama has 1 Rezko, Hillary seems to have few of them, if she managed to dodge one she won't dodge the others.
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Candido77 Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 11:59 PM
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19. Oh, sorry, for a moment I thought you thought Clinton was guilty of something
My bad. I understand what you mean, though. We need to disqualify candidates who are smeared by GOP on false grounds.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 12:09 AM
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20. She has enough shady deals that if it is brought up by the GOP in succession it will be enough to
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 12:12 AM by DerekJ
for her lose any trust she might still have with the voters. And those tax returns just prove them, and add to them.

Just look at this NPR article:

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=076fd56f-4aca-4683-a9d1-3c55d748946e&k=60222

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THE DONORS
Marc Rich, fugitive American businessman; Denise Rich, songwriter and socialite.

THE GREEN
Denise Rich contributed $70,000 to Hillary's Senate campaign and $450,000 to the Clinton presidential library fund.

THE SCANDAL
Over seventeen years after Marc Rich fled to Switzerland to avoid charges of racketeering, illegal trading, and tax evasion (he owed $48 million), Bill Clinton pardoned Rich during his last moments in the White House. His ex-wife Denise's generous donations and Friend of Bill status gave the pardon a particularly rotten stench.

THE SLEAZE FACTOR
7.5. Rich has been accused of a long list of white-collar crimes. The classiest: trading with Iran while the country was still holding U.S. hostages.

THE DAMAGE TO THE CLINTONS
9.5. As Hillary began her career in the Senate, a media frenzy and investigations in both houses of Congress and the Justice Department were launched to see if Denise's contributions bought her ex-husband's pardon. Though the president was never indicted for wrongdoing, the Rich affair is often mentioned as Exhibit A of Clintonian sliminess.
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She has enough baggage already to carry, and she just added Dubai deals,and shady dealings with corporations.



Are you trying to tell me that this information won't be damaging?!!! Candidates has been swiftboated on a much lesser grounds. You shouldn't disqualify her, but she can't win.

Edit: grammar,
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 12:26 AM
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21. kick
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 11:53 PM
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14. "it's largely a question of appearances"...
That line is a good summary. Wealth is what it is, and it seems that wealth follows office as often as it precedes it, and none of the things that come with wealth these days - offshore dealings, foreign connections, appearances of payoffs and cronyism - none of it appears very good. That said, cynical as it sounds, poor men and women will never be chosen to lead.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 01:34 AM
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23. The Clintons are counting on a chunk of their base being too stupid to know the truth and
the rest willing to rationalize/deny/make excuses for them. So, it's a win-win for them in their world. The Clinton campaign is officially running on bullshit and hubris.

FREE RANDI RHODES
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Taxmyth Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 05:42 AM
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24. Obama smear group strikes again
fucking pathetic.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 06:25 AM
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25. kick
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 06:33 AM
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26. Bill has been selling himself to the highest bidder for the past 7 years.
No wonder he's so friendly with the Bush family.

Lay down with dogs, get up with fleas.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 06:57 AM
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28. Your basic pay for play. nt
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 06:58 AM
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29. OK. So maybe we could call it "near-dirt"?
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 06:58 AM by Perry Logan
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