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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:34 AM
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The Most Disgusting Thing Possible
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 04:59 AM by KingOfLostSouls
when someone who says they're a democrat says if they don't get their way, and stomp their feet like children, they'll vote for mccain in the fall.


theres a term for that



a traitor.



they do benedict arnold proud. you do that, then you'll be responsible for everything that comes after that which mccain will do. you will be responsible for the possible war with iran, the deepening divide between rich and poor, the lack of health care, the destruction of our economy, basically the collapse of the american nation.

your candidate, or any other democrat, won't have a chance to run in 2012. after a 3rd term of george w. bush, there won't be a country left to run for its presidency. do you honestly think that voting for mccain because one or the other doesn't get the nomination will solve problems? no. you may as well move over to freerepublic now because come the fall, and you pull that lever or push that button or mark that ballot for anyone but a democrat, you are a TRAITOR.


fascist enablers. simple as that.



vote for mccain in the fall. vote for 4 more years of this








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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:37 AM
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1. No
it's not treason by any reasonable definition of the word.
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:39 AM
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3. Yes
it is actually.

if you support a 3rd term of george w. bush, its treason and being a traitor.


to country, to party, and to the american people.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:42 AM
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6. No it's not
and your insisting on it doesn't change the definition of the word.

"Treason" is a word that is tossed around far too lightly, and far too frequently by ignorant people.
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:43 AM
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9. 4 more years of this



is pretty treasonous.

wanna vote for mccain if your candidate doesn't get the nomination? fine by me

go be a freeper.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:44 AM
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11. Nobody says they want to vote for McCain. We are just disagreeing with you using the word Treason.
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:45 AM
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13. Thats fine
I consider it treason. bush is a traitor to this country and the constitution and his administration has committed treason.

anyone wanting to enable another 4 years of that is a traitor.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:48 AM
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16. What you believe has little or no bearing
on the definition of words.
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:50 AM
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18. What you believe and claim
has little or no bearing on the reality of it

are you going to vote for mccain in the fall if your candidate doesn't win the nomination, yes or no?
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:52 AM
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20. What does that have to do with your
entirely wrong-headed claim?
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:53 AM
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23. Apparently according to this fool, my Republican family members are traitors to their country.
How lovely.
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:57 AM
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27. Simple
if you don't get your way, are you going to enable 4 more years of george w. bush or you going to help our nominated candidate win and get this country on a better track.

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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 05:10 AM
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30. Again
we're discussing your utterly ridiculous misuse of the word "treason". Try to stay on track.
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 06:48 AM
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35. you seem to not want to answer up
the guilty never do.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 10:18 AM
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37. guilty of what?
knowing the definition of words?
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 06:59 AM
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36. Traitor is more apt
Outside legal spheres, the word "traitor" may also be used a person who betrays (or is accused of betraying) their own political party, nation, family, friends, ethnic group, religion, social class, or other group to which they may belong. Often, such accusations are controversial and disputed, as the person may not identify with the group of which they are a member, or may otherwise disagree with the group leaders making the charge.
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CatnHat Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:52 AM
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21. What is your problem---
we are all democrats. If Obama camp can't win, that's on him. Nationally, his polls are dropping in certain segments, and say goodbye to most independents, that's a fact. All along Obama and some his supporters have been nothing but rude, and posting vile things about Clinton; and in return not only expect our vote; but call us traitors if we don't.

Did it ever occur to any Obama supporter instead of voting for McCain, many democrats will sit it out and not vote at all. What a shame it all came down to this. Thanks, for all your wonderful insights.
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:54 AM
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24. I call either one traitors
theres far more important things than a beauty contest between two under qualified candidates who only are fighting over the nomination because Al Gore didn't enter the race.

if you decide a beauty pageant is more important than the good of the country, maybe you shouldn't consider yourself a member of the democratic party.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:54 AM
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25. Wow, way to bring in completely fucked up and backward analysis into the equation
The OP wasnt talking about Clinton or Obama, and you make this about Obama people posting mean things about CLinton.
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:56 AM
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26. Thank you
it was aimed at both parties.

theres good people supporting obama and good people supporting clinton. but theres also plenty who act like children saying they'll vote for mccain in the fall if neither get their way.

thats stupid, and foolish. and in the end, may very well doom this country. mccain makes bush seem intelligent on foreign policy and the economy.

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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 05:58 AM
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34. It's exactly in line with the definition of the word
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/traitor;_ylt=AsaAnbPZozH41gIm9G15iAWsgMMF

traitor

NOUN:

One who betrays one's country, a cause, or a trust, especially one who commits treason.



The OP was not necessarily using the word traitor as one who betrays one's country but one who betrays a cause or trust. In this instance, yes, the word is perfectly appropriate as a democrat who voted for a republican candidate would be a traitor to the democratic cause.

Committing treason by betraying one's country is only defined as such when the betrayer is aware of the treasonous act... if it's out of ignorance or by accident it isn't treason. The same could be said for one who betrays a cause or trust... it isn't treason if the betrayer switches allegence due to ignorance or by accident.

Interesting that being a traitor can be a very good thing when the traitor betrays the faction of the "dark side" by switching their allegence to the "light side". Interesting also that it's only the faction being betrayed that would consider the betrayer as a traitor since the opposite faction would consider such a one to be a hero.


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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:39 AM
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2. Have you lost your Frickin mind? Treason?
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:40 AM
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4. a 3rd term of george w. bush
is betraying the american people and this country and our party.


vote mccain, you might as well go be a freeper.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:41 AM
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5. Second part is true, but that doesnt mean it's treason to vote McCain.
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:42 AM
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7. 4 more years of this




sounds pretty treasonous to me.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:42 AM
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8. You know what we do with people who commit treason, right?
Do you want us to the same to all these people that commit treason as you put it?
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:44 AM
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10. Nope
I'm just saying simply put, if you wanna enable 4 more years of george w. bush, you're a traitor.


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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:45 AM
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12. We talking about just democrats here?
Are republicans who vote for McCain traitors to their country?
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:46 AM
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14. I'd say so
thank god theres less and less republicans these days.


if you support spying on americans, torture, 4000 plus dead soldiers, and wall street over main street, outing CIA agents, then yeah, I'd say that ranks up there with being a traitor.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:47 AM
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15. Well, from my Uncle and Grandmother, Id say FUCK YOU
Dont you dare call my family members traitors to their country. There are patriots on the left and there are patriots on the right. One thing I have learned from this administration is to never question anybody's patriotism. Nobody has the right to do that.
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:49 AM
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17. I just did
go ahead and vote mccain with them in the fall.


4000 plus dead troops say fuck you right on back.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:52 AM
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19. I'm voting Obama in the fall, and if not I'm voting Clinton
But I dont need to explain myself to a fucked up little fool like yourself.
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:53 AM
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22. Good
because theres far too many people here saying if their candidate doesn't get the nomination they'll vote for mccain instead.


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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:59 AM
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28. Who hasn't felt like screaming if " XYZ" takes the nom
I will vote for "UVW"/no one/take my toys and leave.

Saying/feeling that way and doing that are not the same. And it's not treason but in my opinion it's an immature response for not getting what we want.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 05:10 AM
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29. Treason
trea•son (trē'zən)
n.

1-Violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies.

2- A betrayal of trust or confidence.


As yourself, have you betrayed the trust given to you to select the best candidate to serve your country?! Did you betray it for money?!! Did you betray to satisfy a vendetta?!!
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 05:58 AM
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33. I did support the best candidate
but joe biden didn't get the nomination so I'm stuck with the also-rans
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 05:49 AM
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31. Someone highlighted too that internationally due to Repubs irresponsiblity.Crimes agaisnt women rise
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 05:51 AM by cooolandrew
on their watch. So a democrat who approches the world more compassionately promotes more safety for women at home and overseas. That is reason enough alone to vote democrat.
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 05:57 AM
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32. a terrible thing
I fear for my nieces and nephews coming up in a world with 4 more years of bush.

that cannot be allowed.
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