The Root Problem with Hillary: She does not care if voters base their decisions on the Truth

[JackORoses]

To her the ends always justify the means.

She emerged in an era where one could play fast and loose with the truth and get away with it.
She is not quite as smooth under the gaze of a hundred million watchful eyes. Her act is seen as just that.

This will be her ultimate downfall. Because if there is one thing Americans can unite to despise, it is a liar.

Her comments will continue to be perused with ever increasing scrutiny, and the house of cards will begin to crumble.
I wonder what her reaction to this will be? Will she continue the downward spiral of lies, or make a quick exit to save her political future.

There is just too much tape of her out there contradicting herself and her positions.
The MSM just had to get the taste for it. Now they smell a big ratings story.

Hillary should save herself, her family, and her supporters the pain of being deconstructed before the Public, once again.
This is a major tipping point.

[Hieronymus]

1. Well said.

[TML]

2. A huge K & R

In this day and age, old politics don't work.

[Zachstar]

3. If they think for one second they will get the worst of it from democrats then nobody knows history.

Republicans are being very quiet as they have their research offices pouring through records to not only disprove one lie but tie that lie into other ones to form destructive talking points which will cost Clinton states in the GE.

If it is not her downfall with democrats who are willing to forgive, Then the party will take the downfall come november.

If she exits now the media noise over Obama and congress will allow her to slink away with her seat. If she continues she will start to threaten the seat in my view.

If she wants to have PA vote let her campaign. She seems to think they will give her the boost she needs to continue. If she is willing to withstand nothing but PR loss for another few weeks then that is her choice.

Our calls need to be centered around her not taking it into may unless she gets a super large influx of delegates.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

4. Uncontrolled lying is not a positive sign of leadership, IMO

[MADem]

10. It sure isn't--see post eight. A lot of it going on there!! On ISSUES, too! nt

[bellasgrams]

13. If you folks are so enraged about lying how can you support BO/ng

[syberyenta]

5. The problem about Hillary IS the truth

and the horse she rode in on.

[bunnies]

6. And the Root problem with voters is...

That they either dont take the time or dont have the time to unravel the bullshit to GET to the truth.

And the Root problem with the MSM is... That they behave like the voters.

Regardless of the last 7 years, there are people that STILL believe everything the gov't tells them. And when the MSM simply parrots the lies... politicians take advantage.

Shame on you Barack Obama! Is a perfect example of this. And the Clintons are the masters of exploiting it.

[ThatPoetGuy]

7. Good effing god.

She told a story to illustrate that the American medical system is damaged and destructive. The point of her story is true. Denying that is dishonest.

On the other hand, we have another candidate who dishonestly refers to universal health care as "mandates," in a conscious and deliberate attempt to deceive people. Obama lied to poor people and manipulated them through fear. He claims his own health care plan provides universal coverage, which is a lie. Not an error. A lie. His plan provides coverage to everyone who can pay for it. That's the same system we have now. Those who "opt out" of coverage because they are poor are not exercising freedom.

This hospital story has been one of the biggest tragedies of this farce of an election cycle. She says the American medical system is screwed up and gives an example. Anyone who chooses to focus on the example rather than the point is missing something of their humanity.

Today plenty of people are suffering, when their suffering could be abated easily. Millions of people will continue to suffer because of the lies Obama knowingly told. Hillary unknowingly spread a false rumor that could have helped people who are suffering.

There is a huge difference.

This is, by the way, from someone who held his nose and caucused for Obama.

[MADem]

8. What a laugh riot your post is. Particularly since the truthiness of Obama on the ISSUES is known.

He's gone from screaming lefty to Panderbear in the wink of an eye, and THEN, it turns out he LIED about what his views actually were:


Liberal views could haunt Obama
By: Mike Allen and Ben Smith
December 12, 2007 06:43 AM EST

When Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) was seeking state office a dozen years ago, he took unabashedly liberal positions: flatly opposed to capital punishment, in support of a federal single-payer health plan, against any restrictions on abortion, and in support of state laws to ban the manufacture, sale and even possession of handguns.

Filling out a 12-page questionnaire from an Illinois voter group as he sought a state Senate seat in 1996, Obama answered “yes” or “no” — without using the available space to calibrate his views — on some of the most emotional and politically potent issues that a public official can confront.

“Do you support … capital punishment?” one question asked.

“No,” the 1996 Obama campaign typed, without explaining his answer in the space provided.

“Do you support state legislation to … ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns?” asked one of the three dozen questions.

“Yes,” was Obama’s entire answer.


........A week after Politico provided the questionnaire to the Obama campaign for comment, an aide called Monday night to say that Obama had said he did not fill out the form, and provided a contact for his campaign manager at the time, who said she filled it out. It includes first-person comments such as: “I have not previously been a candidate.”

The campaign said his views have been consistent, and points out that his positions have always been more nuanced than can be conveyed in yes-or-no answers.

Obama, who makes an issue of his opponents’ consistency in the presidential race, has tempered many of those 1996 views during his quick rise to the pinnacle of American politics. He now takes less dogmatic positions many of those hot-button issues — in the view of some Democrats, he abandoned the stands as he rose through the ranks.

For instance, Obama says he supports the death penalty in limited circumstances, such as an especially heinous crime. The campaign says Obama has consistently supported the death penalty “in principle” and opposed it “in practice.”

..........Put more bluntly, Republicans think his high-minded approach to issues could make him a sitting duck as he tries to attract the vast middle that determines American elections. ... As a result, Republican officials say that, depending on how Obama plays his cards, they will be able to torpedo him in a general election either as a flip-flopper or a lefty.

http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=C906328B-3048-5C12-007DE179B9A5D1D5


And then...the DRIP, DRIP, DRIP of prevarication and revelation:

http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=03FA375F-3048-5C12-00CC7D33B6E8E59E

Obama had greater role on liberal survey
By: Kenneth P. Vogel
April 1, 2008 09:02 AM EST

During his first run for elected office, Barack Obama played a greater role than his aides now acknowledge in crafting liberal stands on gun control, the death penalty and abortion — positions that appear at odds with the more moderate image he has projected during his presidential campaign.

The evidence comes from an amended version of an Illinois voter group’s detailed questionnaire, filed under his name during his 1996 bid for a state Senate seat.

Late last year, in response to a Politico story about Obama’s answers to the original questionnaire, his aides said he “never saw or approved” the questionnaire.

They asserted the responses were filled out by a campaign aide who “unintentionally mischaracterize his position.”

But a Politico examination determined that Obama was actually interviewed about the issues on the questionnaire by the liberal Chicago nonprofit group that issued it. And it found that Obama — the day after sitting for the interview — filed an amended version of the questionnaire, which appears to contain Obama’s own handwritten notes added to one answer......It could also provide ammunition for a line of attack quietly peddled for some time by Republicans. They allege Obama has a penchant for blaming his staff for gaffes ranging from missing a union event in New Hampshire to circulating opposition research highlighting the Clintons’ ties to India and Indian-Americans to underestimating the amount of cash bundled for his campaigns by his former fundraiser, indicted businessman Antoin “Tony” Rezko.

And the questionnaires play into storylines pushed by both Republicans and Clinton suggesting Obama has altered his views to appeal to differing audiences.

That suggestion is galling to many members of IVI-IPO, some of whom have relationships with Obama that date back nearly 15 years. The group had endorsed Obama in every race he’d run — including his failed long-shot 2000 primary challenge to U.S. Rep. Bobby Rush (D-Ill.) — until now.





Looks like it is those PANTS that are "fired up!!!"

Those "flip flop" ads will write themselves....

[MonkeyFunk]

9. I will no longer take seriously

any discussions about "the truth" from certain Obama supporters who lie as easily as they breathe.

[guruoo]

14. And then they say HRC's the one who'll "do anything to win"

:rofl:

[JackORoses]

16. whatever, Dookus

[guruoo]

11. "Scruntiny" or ...

[anonymous171]

12. "Low information voters" are her favorite recruiting source now.

:kick:

[Liquorice]

15. Al Gore invented the internet! That old joke

and many like them cost our party big in 2000. I thought republicans were behind the 'Al Gore is a liar' meme, but in actuality, it was Bill Bradley, running against Al in the primary, who started it. And Arianna Huffington was all for this line of attack on Gore.

"There are those urging Bill Bradley to discontinue his campaign against Al Gore in the name of salvaging Democratic unity. But it appears that Bradley has instead decided to fight on full throttle, putting Gore's trustworthiness on trial. And that's good news for our democracy.

Maybe Bradley can prove to the country that, like crime, chronic deception doesn't pay. "How can the people trust a candidate," Bradley asked in New York the day after the New Hampshire primary, "who doesn't respect them enough to tell them the truth in the campaign?'"
http://ariannaonline.huffingtonpost.com/columns/column.php?id=228

[azmouse]

17. K&R