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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:26 PM
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Know Your DLC: Current DLC Leadership Team and other Democratic Leadership Council links.
I'm starting this DU, add your contributions to the knowledge of the DLC in this thread.

DLC Leadership Team page
http://www.ndol.org/ndol_ka.cfm?kaid=137
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:34 PM
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1. The leading DLC policy think tank is the Progressive Policy Institute/PPI
(which has been funded by The Bradley Foundation).

Below is Right Web's profile of the Progressive Policy Institute/PPI
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1534.html
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:47 PM
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6. Will Marshall is the DLC's co-founder. Will Marshall is PPI's President. Will Marshall is a PNAC
letter signatory.

Will Marshall Right Web profile
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1295.html

Will Marshall Source Watch profile
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Will_Marshall
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:34 PM
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2. "The Trouble with the DLC":
The Trouble with the DLC
Posted August 13, 2007 | 01:14 PM (EST)


Why are Harold Ford and others from the more paternalistic and condescending quarters of the Democratic Party so keen on discrediting the rising progressive movement? What have been the consequences of their obsession with "the middle"? Most importantly, how have the Tory Democrats managed to bury the expression of deep progressive values, and what should the progressive movement do about it?

For three decades, advocates of "centrism" have used their money to monopolize the Democratic message and leave the progressive base out in the cold, not spoken to. Since its founding in 1985, the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) has been leading this effort. How did they pull this off? Before we get into that, let's call them what they are. "Centrist" implies conciliation, moderation, compromise. It reinforces the mistaken idea that our political life falls along a neat, linear scale from left to right. That metaphor makes the center a pretty good and safe place to be. And that it certainly is not.

The plutocratic Democrats should be referred to not as centrists, but as industrial authoritarians. Their movement was born after the Nixon re-election in 1972. They blamed that landslide on Democratic Party rules changes that audaciously sought to include Americans formerly excluded from the back rooms of power. They fronted for older corporate interests -- oil and gas, finance, insurance. The are really 19th-Century paternalists who would save us from ourselves by keeping us far from the plantation's Big House.

-snip

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/glenn-w-smith/the-trouble-with-the-dlc_b_60210.html



David Sirota on the DLC:

-snip

It was the DLC’s president, Al From, who in 2001 said that his goal was to give Democrats “a game plan to try to contain the populism.” Populism, you may recall, is defined as “supporting the rights and powers of the common people in their struggle with the privileged elite.” Al From has made that vision a reality. The DLC—which has been funded by the likes of Chevron, Enron, Merck and Philip Morris—has, until recently, been extremely effective at pressuring Democrats to ignore the will of the public and capitulate to big business’s demands. The DLC has also made a public spectacle of itself by berating Democratic candidates who actually stand up for ordinary people.

PUTTING THE “MOCK” IN DEMOCRACY—To be sure, the DLC never openly admits its objectives, or even its funding sources. Instead, it bills itself as quasi grassroots, holding so-called “national conversations” in an effort to create the impression that its corporate-written agenda has some semblance of public support.

Yet the media coverage of its most recent such “conversation,” in Denver this past July, tells the real story. The New York Sun noted that the meeting focused on pondering “how to counter the netroots”—i.e., how to counter the millions of grassroots Democratic Party voters who use the Internet to advocate for a more democratic political system. Perhaps most telling of all was the Rocky Mountain News’s note that the DLC’s supposed “national conversation” at the Hyatt Regency Hotel was, in fact, “not open to the public.”

In an August Rolling Stone column, reporter Matt Taibbi recounted his interview with one DLC leader, who called anti-war activists “narrow dogmatists.” Taibbi pointed out that recent Gallup polls have shown that fully 91 percent of Democrats support a withdrawal from Iraq, and he asked the DLC leader to explain this contradiction. “So these hundreds of thousands of Democrats who are against the war are narrow dogmatists?” Taibbi asked. “We have thirty corporate-funded spokesmen telling hundreds of thousands of actual voters that they’re narrow dogmatists?”

-snip

http://www.davidsirota.com/index.php/big-money-vs-grassroots/



The Democrats 2008 Choice: Sell Out & Lose, Or Stand Up & Win
Posted July 26, 2005 | 03:42 PM (EST)




The 2008 Democratic presidential candidates this week are busy genuflecting at Corporate America's altar -- otherwise known as the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC). Now, it's true -- the DLC is really just a group of Beltway-insulated corporate-funded hacks who have spent the better part of the last decade trying to undermine the Democratic Party's traditional working class base -- a base that had kept Democrats in power for 40 years and now, thanks to the DLC, has been forfeited to the Republicans. Even so, the fact that these presidential candidates feel the need to bow down to the DLC is a troubling sign about whether the Democratic Party is really serious about regaining power in America.

Let's just look at the cold, hard facts about the DLC and its record. The DLC has pushed, among other things, the war in Iraq and "free" trade policies, using bags of corporate money to buy enough Democratic votes to help Republicans make those policies a reality. They have chastised anyone who has opposed those policies as either unpatriotic or anti-business -- even as a majority of Americans now oppose the war in Iraq, oppose the DLC's business-written trade deals, and are sick of watching America's economy sold out to the highest corporate bidder. Additionally, in brazenly Orwellian fashion, the DLC has also called its extremist agenda "centrist," even though polls show the American public opposes most of their agenda, and supports much of the progressive agenda.

Now, you could make a credible argument that the DLC's corporatization/Republicanization of the Democratic Party was justified, had it led to electoral success for Democrats. Few would argue that today's split-the-difference Democratic Party hasn't followed the DLC's policy direction over the last 10 years. That means the last 10 years of elections really have been a referendum on whether the DLC's model -- regardless of any moral judgements about it -- actually wins at the polls.

And that's when we get to the real problem with the DLC -- its policies are BOTH morally bankrupt, and politically disastrous. The rise of the DLC within the Democratic Party has coincided almost perfectly with the decline of the Democratic Party's power in American politics -- a decline that took Democrats from seemingly permanent majority status to permanent minority status. In this last election, just think of Democrats' troubles in Ohio as a perfect example of this. Here was a state ravaged by massive job loss due to corporate-written "free" trade deals -- yet Democrats were unable to capitalize on that issue and thus couldn't win the state because the DLC had long ago made sure the party helped pass the very trade policies (NAFTA, China PNTR) that sold out those jobs.

-SNIP

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/the-democrats-2008-choice_b_4729.html
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 03:30 PM
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18. In effect
It goes at least back to the days when the dems replaced the GOP after the Great Depression and by no means was it a sufficient shift against RW capitalism. The old story is that power and money and control simply changed hands and made the Dems the establishment with a tainted soul. Like Gaullists the holding on to power, past achievements and glories was pretty much a grand version of what happens at your Fire Depertment when the old guard gets reactionary, self-entitled, senile and out of touch with its lost youth. It becomes the similar Old Guard it replaced. The two party system is more like like the mad Tweedlee Dum and Dee seesaw that adds a despairing level of complexity to fog this simple lust for power and influence. Those apart from the seesaw, the corporate interests, want to be the parents and in smug arrogance themselves have unwisely joined in the stupid game they profit to make it pefect for their own interests solely.

The DLC is a redux function of this insanity and selfishness, and inexplicable comedy of politics.
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:38 PM
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3. Sorry, many of us know too much about the DLC already...
..they are a blight upon the honorable "New Deal legacy" of the Democratic Party.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:40 PM
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4. DLC Ties to PNAC (neocons)
Al From is founder and chief executive officer of the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC), a dynamic idea action center of the "Third Way" governing philosophy that is reshaping progressive politics in the United States and around the globe. He is also chairman of the Third Way Foundation and publisher of the DLC's flagship bi-monthly magazine, Blueprint: Ideas for a New Century.

As a founder of the DLC -- birthplace of the New Democrat movement and the Third Way in America -- and its companion think tank, the Progressive Policy Institute (PPI), From leads a national movement that since the mid-1980s has provided both the action agenda and the ideas for New Democrats to successfully challenge the conventional political wisdom in America and, in the process, redefine the center of the Democratic Party.

-snip

http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?kaid=86&subid=191&contentid=1131



Will Marshall, the head of PPI signed PNAC letters.
(Called "Bill Clinton's idea mill," the Progressive Policy Institute was responsible for many of the Clinton administration's initiatives...)
Starting right after 9/11.
***************************
Along with such neocon stalwarts as Robert Kagan, Bruce Jackson, Joshua Muravchik, James Woolsey, and Eliot Cohen, a half-dozen Democrats were among the 23 individuals who signed PNAC's first letter on post-war Iraq. Among the Democrats were Ivo Daalder of the Brookings Institution and a member of Clinton's National Security Council staff; Martin Indyk, Clinton's ambassador to Israel; Will Marshall of the Progressive Policy Institute and Democratic Leadership Council; Dennis Ross, Clinton's top adviser on the Israel-Palestinian negotiations; and James Steinberg, Clinton's deputy national security adviser and head of foreign policy studies at Brookings.

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0522-10.htm

More about Will Marshall
Note the PNAC link to the left.
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1295

Populism is a political doctrine or philosophy that purports to defend the interests of the common people against an entrenched, self-serving or corrupt elite. In their 2007 volume Twenty-First Century Populism: The Spectre of Western European Democracy (Palgrave Macmillan), Daniele Albertazzi and Duncan McDonnell define populism as "an ideology which pits a virtuous and homogeneous people against a set of elites and dangerous ‘others’ who are together depicted as depriving (or attempting to deprive) the sovereign people of their rights, values, prosperity, identity and voice".

Recent scholarship has discussed populism as a rhetorical style; as such, the term "populist" may be applied to proponents of widely varying political philosophies. Leaders of populist movements in recent decades have claimed to be on both the left and the right of the political spectrum, while some populists claim to be neither "left wing," "centrist" nor "right wing."<1><2><3><4><5><6><7><8>

Leaders of populist movements have variously tried to stand up to corporate power, remove "corrupt" elites, fight for the "poor people of the country", and "put people first." Populism incorporates anti-regime politics, and sometimes espouses, especially among the right wing varieties, nationalism, jingoism, racism or religious fundamentalism.<1> Often they employ dichotomous rhetoric, and claim to represent the majority of the people. Many populists appeal to a specific region of a country or to a specific social class, such as the working class, middle class, or farmers or simply "the poor".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Populism

DLCer WILL MARSHALL BLAMED GORE'S "LOSS" ON POPULISM

A key factor in that defeat was Gore's peculiar decision to discard the New Democrat formula that had worked so well in 1992 and 1996. Instead of proposing a second wave of modernizing ideas intended to build on the New Democrat successes of the past eight years, Gore recast himself as an old fashioned populist fighting big corporations on behalf of working class families and his party's traditional interest groups.

-snip
http://www.ppionline.org/ppi_ci.cfm?knlgAreaID=128&subsecID=187&contentID=3361

YET NOW HE STATES:

"We're all populists now," says the DLC's Will Marshall, but the organization still scorns the populist economics that was central to Democratic election victories across the county last year.

http://commonsense.ourfuture.org/wrong_right?tx=3
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:47 PM
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5. DLC has fought for the Free Trade that lead to so many jobs disappearing:
Hillary Clinton has made statements unequivocally trumpeting NAFTA as the greatest thing since sliced bread. The Buffalo News reports that back in 1998, Clinton attended the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, and thanked praised corporations for mounting "a very effective business effort in the U.S. on behalf of NAFTA." Yes, you read that right: She traveled to Davos to thank corporate interests for their campaign ramming NAFTA through Congress.

On November 1, 1996, United Press International reported that on a trip to Brownsville, Texas, Clinton "touted the president's support for the North American Free Trade Agreement, saying it would reap widespread benefits in the region."

The Associated Press followed up the next day noting that Hillary Clinton touted the fact that "the president would continue to support economic growth in South Texas through initiatives such as the North American Free Trade Agreement."

In her memoir, Clinton wrote, "Senator Dole was genuinely interested in health care reform but wanted to run for president in 1996. He couldn't hand incumbent Bill Clinton any more legislative victories, particularly after Bill's successes on the budget, the Brady bill and NAFTA."

-snip

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/hillary-clinton-pretends-_b_86747.html



Clinton to renew Normal Trade Relations with China



June 2, 1999
Web posted at: 4:51 p.m. EDT (2051 GMT)


WASHINGTON (AllPolitics, June 2) -- President Bill Clinton will notify Congress Thursday that he is renewing China's most-favored-nation (MFN) trading status -- now known as Normal Trade Relations (NTR) -- for another year, CNN has confirmed.

MFN/NTR status offers low tariffs and treats countries as normal trading partners.

The formal notification, required by the Thursday deadline, is expected to trigger a major debate in the House and Senate due to allegations of Chinese espionage against the U.S. and other recent diplomatic tensions, including charges China tried to influence the 1996 presidential election with illegal campaign contributions.

One of the first speak out against Clinton decision, Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-California), derided the president for making the decision near the 10th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square massacre.

-snip

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/06/02/china.mfn/



Clinton Proposes Renewing China's Most-Favored Trade Status

Congressional reaction mixed amidst larger China policy issues


WASHINGTON (AllPolitics, June 3) -- President Bill Clinton on Wednesday proposed renewing most-favored-nation (MFN) trade status for China, saying it was "clearly in our nation's interest" as he urged Congress to support the request.

-snip

House Speaker Newt Gingrich welcomed Clinton's recommendation for renewing MFN status for China, and vowed to work in a bipartisan manner to ensure that China receives it from Congress.

Gingrich, joined by Reps. Bill Archer (R-Texas) and Philip Crane (R-Ill.), made his comments in a letter to Clinton.

-snip

House Democratic leader Richard Gephardt issued a statement Wednesday opposing Clinton's plan to extend China's trading status for another year.

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/06/03/china.trade/

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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:49 PM
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8. mod mom, you really know your DLC-I'm learning a lot from you. Thanks!
:yourock:
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Irishonly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:57 PM
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11. Do You Know How To Find A List?
I know Al Gore used to be a member but I don't think he is now. How can you find a current list of members or can you?
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 03:17 PM
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17. The list was taken off their site. Gore broke with them during 2000 (see Boston Globe
I am convinced that the failure of the DLC to acknowledge Gore's win in 2000 (in fact they blame his "loss" on breaking with the DLC and becoming a populist-i'll post a link below) and their active role in keeping Kerry from challenging Ohio in 2004(thanks to Clinton ally James Carville (also posted below) was calculated as to allow a HRC run in '08. If either would have taken the office they won, then HRC and her corporate cronies would not have had a chance in 2008. Also look how they try to undermine Howard Dean. Anyway, here are some links:

FIRST..GORE BROKE WITH THE DLC TO BECOME A POPULIST:

Published on Sunday, August 20. 2000 in the Boston Globe
Thank You, Al Gore
by Robert Kuttner
A funny thing happened to Al Gore on the way to his surprisingly effective acceptance speech. He became a liberal.

The speech was as liberal as anything FDR or LBJ or Jesse Jackson or one of the Kennedys might have delivered. It was built around a commitment to fight for ordinary people, against large and powerful interests. This, of course, is precisely what made it effective.

The emotional heart of the speech, Gore's honoring of four ordinary American lives, did not just salute the struggles of workaday families, the way Ronald Reagan often did. It identified who was dishonoring their struggles - corporations. He singled out heartless HMOs who pressure a family to sacrifice a child; drug companies that force a pensioner to choose between food and medicine; corporate polluters; corporations that pay workers inadequate wages.

And he identified the solution: strong, reliable public Social Security; better Medicare; welfare reform that rewards work rather than punishing the needy; higher minimum wages; and more investment in public - not voucher - schools, so that working families don't have to send kids to crumbling classrooms.

What is the evil? Corporate power. What is the remedy? Effective government.

-snip
http://www.commondreams.org/views/082000-105.htm

SECOND, AFTER GORE'S WIN THEY BLAME HIS 'LOSS' ON BREAKING WITH THE DLC:

Strange Theory on Why Gore Lost



The so-called Democratic Leadership Council has decided that Al Gore should have acted more like a Republican in order to win the 2000 presidential electoral college vote in addition to his nationwide popular vote victory. This strange finding has drawn some attention, including coverage by the Associated Press and the Environmental News Service -- we have a few excerpts from their reports for you here.

Al Gore, the self-styled environmental candidate in the 2000 Presidential election, lost his bid for the White House because he campaigned on an outdated "populist" platform that was too liberal for most Americans, according to a new report drafted by the Democratic Leadership Council.

The 40-page report, titled "Why Gore Lost, And How Democrats Can Come Back," concludes that the Democratic Party must move towards the political right -- towards the Republicans -- if it wants to regain control of Congress in 2002 and the White House in 2004.

Al From, the DLC's founder and CEO, opened a freewheeling discussion forum by arguing that Democrat Al Gore made a huge tactical mistake by continually emphasizing that he would "fight for the people and not the powerful" as the nation's first president of the 21st Century.

-snip

http://www.progress.org/goredlc2.htm

AND FINALLY, CLINTON ALLY JAMES CARVILLE'S ROLE IN THE QUICK KERRY CONCESSION:

Did Carville Tip Bush Off to Kerry Strategy (Woodward)


By M.J. Rosenberg | bio




On page 344, Woodward describes the doings at the White House in the early morning hours of Wednesday, the day after the '04 election.

Apparently, Kerry had decided not to concede. There were 250,000 outstanding ballots in Ohio.

So Kerry decides to fight. In fact, he considers going to Ohio to camp out with his voters until there is a recount. This is the last thing the White House needs, especially after Florida 2000.

-snip

"Carville told her he had some inside news. The Kerry campaign was going to challenge the provisional ballots in Ohio -- perhaps up to 250,000 of them. 'I don't agree with it, Carville said. I'm just telling you that's what they're talking about.'

-snip

http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_kerry_strategy_woodward

RESEARCH THIS FOR YOURSELVES, BEFORE YOU CAST A VOTE FOR ANY DLC CANDIDATE!
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Irishonly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 03:33 PM
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19. Thank you
I didn't remember 2000 although I remember 2004 and how much I wanted to hurt Carville and the DLC. They are too republican for my blood.x(
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:29 AM
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30. There it is-the "bloodless coup" that installed George Walker Bush and Richard Bruce Cheney et al.
:nuke:
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uberblonde Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:48 PM
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7. Like this guy?
Hmm, where do I know that name? Wait, it'll come to me... oh yeah, isn't that Obama's senior economic advisor? Why, I believe it is!

http://www.ndol.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=254329&kaid=86&subid=191

DLC | Bio | May 31, 2007
Austan Goolsbee
Senior Economist, DLC/PPI

Austan Goolsbee is Senior Economist to the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) and the Progressive Policy Institute (PPI). In addition to his responsibilities with the DLC/PPI, Dr. Goolsbee is the Robert P. Gwinn Professor of Economics at the University of Chicago and is recognized as one of the top young stars in the field of economics. He has contributed to numerous academic, financial, and governmental institutions, including the Department of Justice, Antitrust Division, the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis, and the National Bureau of Economic Research. He is currently a columnist for The New York Times, writing its "Economic Scene" column, and was the Lead Editor for the Journal of Law and Economics from 2001 to 2004. In 1991, Goolsbee served on former Senator David Boren's (D-Okla.) Economics Staff.

Goolsbee has received numerous accolades in his illustrious career. The Financial Times' named him one of the six Gurus of the Future/Best Under 40 in 2005, and the World Economic Forum in Switzerland chose him one as one of the 2005 Young Global Leaders.

Goolsbee is also a member of the U.S. Census Advisory Committee (representing the American Economic Association); a Research Associate for the National Bureau of Economic Research in Cambridge; and a Research Fellow at the American Bar Foundation in Chicago. He received his Master's Degree in Economics from Yale in 1991 and his Ph.D. in the same subject in 1995 from Massachusetts Institute of Technology.


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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:54 PM
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9. The DLC is everywhere, it is one thing to have an advisor-quite another to be a DLC leader like HRC
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 03:02 PM by bobthedrummer
on edit: General Scott Gration, Zbigniew Brzezinski and other controversial people also advise Obama-but Obama is not a DLC Leader like HRC.

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uberblonde Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 05:09 PM
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22. Oh, you're right!
And really, how important is the economy, anyway? Obama will bring it to heel with the power of his AWESOMENESS!!!
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:58 PM
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12. Maybe he challenges Barack's mind....
He says he wants advisors that do not always agree with him. All these threads and articles when it turns out Barack has an advisor that doesn't follow the campaign position 100%--are getting really annoying.

I hate the DLC and just the mention of Al From makes me want to start a vitriolic hate filled discussion thread---but there has to be dialogue between those with different viewpoints.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 03:13 PM
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15. Yep, dialogue is a critical leadership skill-unlike dictating--or LYING.
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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:57 PM
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10. and know that Rahm Emmanuel's assistant and Barack Obama's dep comm director are MARRIED.
literally.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 03:07 PM
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13. A man and a woman are married. I'm for that. Obama is not a DLC Leader like HRC.
But thanks for adding to the knowledge.
:sarcasm:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 03:11 PM
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14. And it certainly sticks out like a sore thumb!
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 03:15 PM
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16. lol!
:hi:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 09:03 PM
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28. Hi BTD!
:hi:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 03:33 PM
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20. K&R. (nt)
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PADemD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:32 PM
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21. Thank you for posting this.
I just learned that someone I WAS going to vote for is a member of the DLC.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 05:11 PM
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23. You're welcome, PADemD-it makes a lot of difference to most of US now.
Regardless of all else we deserve the truth, not perception management.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 05:54 PM
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24. New Democrat Coalition Membership page
My Congressman, Ron Kind, is a Vice-Chair of this New Democrat machine. He is also a super delegate against super delegates and is going to cast his vote reflecting his constituency, for Obama. Is your Rep. part of this group too?

http://www.house.gov/tauscher/ndc/membership.shtml
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 06:23 PM
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25. There may not be anything nefarious about these "New Democrat" groups-until it comes to representing
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 06:23 PM by bobthedrummer
we the people in legislation and votes in Congress. Our urgent messages have been ignored for too many years.

Here are some more links to review.

New Democrat Network
http://www.ndn.org/

New Politics Institute
http://www.newpolitics.net/

New Politics Institute Source Watch profile
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=New_Politics_Institute

I don't have much common ground with venture capitalists like the Rappaports that founded the New Democrat Network, do you?
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:22 AM
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62. !
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 08:23 PM
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26. Democratic Leadership Council profile from Source Watch
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 08:54 PM
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27. The DLC's PPI is a project of the Third Way Foundation-which is funded by some extreme RW
organizations. Source Watch's Third Way Foundation page has many independent links about the $$$ trail leading to the DLC and it's main policy think tank, PPI.

Third Way Foundation (Source Watch)
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Third_Way_Foundation
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 10:25 PM
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29. So who else sees some definite answers as to why the new leadership we elected in 2006
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 11:02 PM by bobthedrummer
has ignored our urgent messages-and effective opposition to the BFEE has been stymied by this RW political machine inside the Democratic Party?

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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 11:21 AM
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31. Share what you've learned-kick
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:07 PM
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32. Consider what one of the New Democrats/DLC funders is all about-The Bradley Foundation
View this post's links in the context of overarching RW philosophies.

The Bradley Foundation (from Media Transparency)
http://www.mediatransparency.org/funderprofile.php?funderID=1

The Bradley Foundation (from Right Web)
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1441.html

Democratic Leadership Council (from Right Web)
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1463.html

:puke::argh::puke::argh::puke::argh:
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 03:31 PM
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63. ...
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:43 PM
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33. .
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 03:47 PM
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34. Call out kick for more information about the New Democrats, DLC from others.
Particularly how they influence locally, considering their funding.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 06:16 PM
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35. .
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 11:29 PM
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36. bttt
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:56 PM
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37. !
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:03 PM
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38. I guess that explains why...
Harold Ford Jr. sounds like a Republican.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 06:06 PM
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39. "Democratic House Officials Recruited Wealthy Conservatives" by Matt Renner (9-6-07 Truthout)
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:21 PM
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40. k
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 09:32 AM
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41. Thanks for starting this!

K&R
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:09 AM
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42. You're welcome, share it with those you love, catgirl.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 11:41 AM
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43. .
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 02:23 PM
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44. ..
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 03:28 PM
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45. ...
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:23 PM
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46. >>>
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:28 PM
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47. Neocons in the Democratic Party
This article, Neocons in the Democratic Party, (further down below) is from 2006, but relevant still, nonetheless.

First, however, take note that one of the newer additions to the Democratic Leadership Council is Marshall Wittmann, former aide to Sen. John McCain (R. Ariz.). He was Director of Communications for Independent U.S. Senator Joseph Lieberman, he was the Christian Coalition's director of legislative affairs (he worked for Ralph Reed), he is a senior fellow at the conservative Hudson Institute, was the creator of The Bull Moose blog, is now a senior fellow at DLC/PPI and he has been contributing to the DLC's online magazine, Blueprint Magazine, since at least 2002. In his support of Lieberman's run against Ned Lamont, he often referred to on line liberal bloggers as the "chattering nutroots." (madfloridian gets these things)

According to Matt Taibbi, Wittman wanted to run for Democratic Party Chairman...

Cont'd:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=5304588
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 09:36 PM
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49. Yep.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 11:10 PM
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61. Kick the neocons in the Democratic Party out-forever...
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:42 PM
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48. K&R!
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:50 AM
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50. Whoever is continuing to support a bunch of BFEE moles inside the Democratic Party
needs an education. And those moles need to be eliminated from the Democratic Party that they have harmed.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:40 PM
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51. Anyone notice a rather stark contrast between DLC/New Democrats sitting on Congressional Committees
and other Democrats when questioning General Petraeus and ehh, ummmm Ryan Crocker?

The DLC receives major funding and other support from DoD "contractors" in addition to DLC/New Democrats supporting RW and neoconservative policies.

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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 04:36 PM
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52. k
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 08:15 PM
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53. Bang! You're kicked again!!
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:49 AM
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54. kick
Thank you for posting this.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 02:32 PM
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55. Share it with those you love, notsodumbhillbilly.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 02:54 PM
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56. .
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:56 PM
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57. k
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:08 PM
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58. Thanks for the info.
:kick:
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:23 PM
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59. Share it with those you love, Scurrilous. n/t
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 09:17 PM
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60. bttt
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:34 PM
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64. kick
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:36 PM
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65. kick
:kick:
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:37 PM
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66. kick
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:48 PM
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67. kick
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:06 AM
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68. kick
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 06:56 PM
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69. a very bitter kick
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:49 PM
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70. Getting out the TRUTH, one kick at a time...
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:43 PM
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71. kick
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 06:03 PM
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72. kick
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