Has Obama asked pledged delegates to switch?

[Whisp]

here is a link to an abc news story where Clinton is asking for delegates to switch to her in ND.
Some Hillary supporters have repeatedly claimed that Obama has done the same thing, but do not provide any links or sources for backup - at least none that I have ever seen - so please provide these links in this thread so we can put this puppy to bed and be done with it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5396169

[K Gardner]

1. *crickets*.. as usual

[PseudoIntellect]

2. I have never seen any stories where Obama encouraged the PDs to switch.

If your candidate does something that sounds wrong, use arbitrary claims stating that the other candidate does the same thing. And forget about factual evidence; just assert it.

That seems to be the strategy.

[CoffeeCat]

3. I was a delegate to our County Convention...

...for Obama, and I'm going to be a Delegate at the District Level.

This is what I've been told. Obama does not call Hillary's delegates and
urge them to switch. In the run-up to our County Convention, we all got
calls from the Hillary camp. The Edwards camp did as well.

The Obama camp called the Edwards delegates before the County Convention--because they
were up for grabs. However, we didn't call Hillary's delegates.

This time around--in the District Convention--it is policy to not call any
of Hillary's people. I'm helping with phone calling to our Obama delegates
and alternates, and I've been specifically told that we will not be making
any calls to Hillary delegates. I asked about it. I was told that we
would absolutely only be calling our own Obama delegates, to ensure that
they make it to the Convention--to increase turnout.

That's the official messages that have been passed down to me--through
this process.

[Whisp]

5. thank you, TS.

I will kick this for a while to give some time for a link that comes close to what the accusations have been.

If there is no credible story to back up the claim that Obama is doing the same thing as Hillary, I will be alerting on every damn egg suckin' post that keeps this lie going and hope that others will do so as well.

[TheDoorbellRang]

6. TwoSparkles, what's your take on the ND convention today

They were a caucus state, too. Do you think there's a possiblity of a shift in pledged delegates there simply by dint of the process?

[anonymous171]

4. Wasn't there some conspiracy going around about Obama poaching TX delagates?

I can't remember...

[Erin Elizabeth]

7. Not that I ever heard.

I am an Obama delegate in Texas for a senate district.

[Adelante]

9. The TDP issued inaccurate spreadsheets to both campaigns

The TDP issued a statement about it. There resulted some delegates of one camp or the other being called in error. However, the Clinton campaign did do robocalls to Obama delegates.

You can read about it here:

http://www.blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/03/28/guess-what-obama-is-not-poaching-delegates-in-texas.aspx

[kwenu]

10. No. The reports were about Hillary asking Obama caucus delegates to switch.

And failing that, She (her campaign) challenged the credentials of Obama delegates at the county conventions.

[Adelante]

11. Do you have a link?

I would like to read about that. Thanks.

[kwenu]

12. No. I am a Texas Obama delegate. I was there at the convention in Austin...

with 13,000 other people for hours while the challenges were heard by the committee.

[Adelante]

13. I know there was a ton of finagling going on

But the poster I responded to referred to Obama poaching Clinton's delegates, and the article I linked to clarified at least one charge of that.

[kwenu]

14. I wouldn't be shocked to hear of one allegation of anything but if it was about the Obama campaign

the official charges were few an far in between. I personally dealt with a Clinton supporter who was an attorney and was calling the "Clinton campaign" after every caucus vote that was lost by the Clinton side. No one on the Obama side was spending their time challenging every decision during and after the vote.

Admittedly though, Obama had a 2/3 majority in almost every vote except party resolutions. So endless challenges was how the Clinton campaign dealt with the fact that they were vastly outnumbered.

[Adelante]

17. I read about one county - Webb County, I believe

Where there were alone 3000 challenges by Clinton's people. Amazing.

[Erin Elizabeth]

15. The state convention hasn't been held yet.

It's the weekend of June 5,6, and 7th. How could you have been there? Unless your district convention was there because you live in Austin???

[kwenu]

18. True. There are precinct conventions which feed into county/senate conventions which feed into the

state convention in June. Delegates are elected at each level and must attend at each level. All county conventions were held March 29th. The Travis County Convention (Austin is in Travis county)is the largest of all county democratic conventions and because we are also the seat of Texas government will host the State's convention here in Austin in June.

[Erin Elizabeth]

21. Ah ok. You were talking about your district convention.

Kewl.

[kwenu]

22. Yes. Although it becomes a county convention if there multiple senate districts within the county.

[WolverineDG]

23. Not that I heard

I was an Obama delegate to our county convention. I & all my friends got poaching calls from Hillary, but none of my friends in the Clinton camp reported getting similar calls from Obama. And trust me, if there had been, they'd still be whining about it.

dg

[Yael]

8. Same concept as holding fundraisers

he doesn't have to do either -- it just happens on its own.

;)

[Cha]

20. Excellent example, Yael!

[jgraz]

16. That would be an incredibly dumb move on his part

It would be a de facto acknowledgment that pledged delegates SHOULD be allowed to switch. The Obama campaign isn't really known for making stupid moves like that.

[Whisp]

19. I'm confident of that, but want to end the lies about this.

then I'm installing a tazer button on my keyboard and if I hear that lie again I'm pushin' it.

[Whisp]

24. kick

[Whisp]

25. kicky for linky.