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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:09 PM
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Hillary Clinton tells Oregon supporters she won't quit
btw: Don't shoot the messenger.

"In her speech, Clinton said a new president is needed to bring the troops home from Iraq, provide universal health care, make health care universal, scrap the federal No Child Left Behind law and achieve energy independence.

Responding to the first in a series of questions from the audience, Clinton said that her top priority is to bring troops home from Iraq. She also emphasized that in the fall campaign, the Democratic nominee will need to stand up to Sen. John McCain on national security issues with a strong background and experience.

She told questioners she would support stem cell research and end President Bush's "war on science." She would select Supreme Court justices based on their experience, not their ideologies or partisan background. She wants to change federal policy on education because, " "If we don't support and sustain public education, we will not recognize our country."

In her pitch for energy independence, she praised the efforts in Portland and Oregon, saying the community has led the way in green practices and solutions. At the promoting of a supporter, she applauded the genius of Brian McCarthy, a Liberty High student who has been recognized as a pioneer of better solar technology.

After saying that she was fighting a proposed liquified natural gas terminal in Long Island, she invited an Oregon organic farmer up to the stage to talk about her fears about a proposed pipeline through Oregon. She assured the crowd that she would work against attempts by large companies to act without considering state and local governments.

Clinton acknowledged that the campaign for the Democratic nomination has become intense in recent weeks. "That's because the stakes are huge," she said."

More: http://blog.oregonlive.com/breakingnews/2008/04/hclintonvisit.html
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:13 PM
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1. She doesn't have enough money to pay back her loan yet
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:15 PM
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2. "universal" health care. Except for those who dont get a paycheck to be garnished.
Like the homeless. What a joke.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:39 PM
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7. she says universal and means it. BO omits millions. You post is silly


"universal" health care. Except for those who dont get a paycheck to be garnished.
Posted by bunnies


Like the homeless. What a joke.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:20 PM
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3. Do you think Hillary believed all these things were needed in 2005?

I don't think she believed these matters were important in 2004:
http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13354

I don't believe in the summer of 2004 she and Bill really wanted the troops to be coming home in 2005-6, either:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/06/19/clinton.iraq/

I don't think Clintons wanted Bush to lose Ohio in 2004, either:
http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_kerry_strategy_woodward


And I think Clinton wanted those Dem leaders who DID put up Iraq withdrawal plans to be marginalized in the public arena:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg




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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:31 PM
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4. Well it wouldnt do her much good to travel to Oregon then...
.....tell them "yes vote for me, even if I probably wont still be running by the time you cast your ballots..."
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:34 PM
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5. Glad to see she's giving Obama a run for his money here in OR.
BC was here last week stumping for her. I didn't go, but my mom, a big fan of Bill Clinton, did. I don't think she'll cast her vote for HRC, but she's still a fan of the Big Dog.

I'm not really a fan of either, but I was listening to my mom the other night, and thinking that she, while always naive and easily impressed, has a quality that is possibly more valuable than my own confirmed skepticism.

I'm a skeptic when it comes to people; all people, not just politicians.

Oh, I like people fine. I just don't believe anything they say, and don't trust them. I automatically assume that their words and actions have ulterior motives, and I never automatically assume sincerity on anyone's part. I tend to multiply that skepticism exponentially when it comes to politicians.

Not my mom. She sees politicians as, not slick public performers, but real people. That's why she forgives Bill for his many devastating "mistakes."

She's much more forgiving than I. While she hasn't made a final decision yet, I believe she'll vote for Obama in our May 20th primary. I understand that. My mom is a real person, and she brings her real life, her real beauty, strengths, and flaws to her decision making. I don't agree, but I understand.

I don't agree with Clinton voters, either, but at this point, I'm willing to give all people the benefit of the doubt. To respect that their choices come from their own understanding of the current situation, and respect their right to make that choice as they see fit.

As I will. I'm still not willing to support either Clinton or Obama for president. I may cast a vote for HRC in May to help us along to a brokered convention, holding out a tiny thread of real hope for Gore, or someone else, to take the nomination.

Between the two of them, both with more flaws than strengths from my perspective, I'd probably pick HRC anyway. I disagree with her on much more than I agree, but I can agree with getting out of Iraq, universal health care, and scrapping NCLB. If she'd agree to scrap NAFTA too, I might be a convert.

Meanwhile, I welcome her to this beautiful state, and hope she stays competitive.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:38 PM
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6. I used to Portland--my sister and her family is in Salem. And I am glad
Hillary is out there.
Thanks for the post
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:57 PM
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8. When she faces a story every day about not quitting
the campaign, that means the campaign is in trouble. The best way to face these rumors of her campaign's imminent demise is simply to avoid talking about them. Otherwise she keeps the story alive and, in essence, contributes to those who want to write the obituary.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 05:00 PM
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9. She has to say that to stay in the race. Reality may be different...
...She can only continue this so long before the SDs and party leadership will turn on her. Her campaign tactics have caused so much acrimony in the Party, the sooner she leaves, the better.
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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 06:03 PM
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10. I watched her speech this morning
and was struck by several things:

1) She spoke at length about the economy, and mentioned, of course, how much better life was for all of us back in the 90's. She never mentioned the "war" during her speech, but when someone questioned her about bringing home the troops, she emphatically stated that ending the war was her top priority.

2) In her speech, she seemed to be campaigning against Bush, mentioning McCain only once -- and in very positive terms.

3) While mentioning the the huge deficit incurred during the past 7+ years, she neglected to note that the cause of our out-of-control deficit spending was due to prosecuting a war that we can't afford.

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