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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 05:17 PM
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Another Obama delegate reclaimed - this time in Washington DC
DUer thevoiceofreason worked the math skills and pressured the Mississippi Dems to make sure Obama got his due Mississippi delegate.

This story is about a new result in Washington DC that came about by Obama supporters diligently studying the rules, working the math, and exerting the necessary pressure, and it's one more delegate for our side and one less for their side.



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The Democratic establishment, in the person of our State Chairperson, Anita Bonds, and other wise elders, had been told by "experts" that because Sen. Clinton broke the 15% threshold in the primary voting she was entitled to one of the two PLEO slots (Party Leaders and Elected Officials). The plan even had a "pecking" order which gave priority to our City Council Chairman, offices within the Council, other elected, etc. Council Chair Pro Tempore and baseball stadium booster Jack Evans (also a partner in powerhouse law firm, Patton, Boggs & blah, blah), a Clinton Supporter, was ready to start packing his bags for Denver. Ms. Bonds sincerely believed the experts she had consulted and she was just doing her job, sort of. She stated publicly, in many forums, that the allocation would be 1-1.

It just did not seem right. A 51+% victory ought to count for more than a tie. It was not right. Thanks to the research of 3 local Obama grassroots types who pass our evenings reading footnotes, blogger KCinDC, Jordan Usdan of Young Lawyers for Obama & myself, we discovered that under our local delegate selection plan (although it was not very clearly stated) there is a effective 25% threshold in delegate selection allocations where only 2 delegates are at stake. Short version: DC gets 2 PLEOs, Obama got 76% of the vote in DC, and Clinton got 24%. Therefore Obama should get 76% of 2, or 1.52 delegates, while Clinton should get 24% of 2, or 0.48. That rounds to 2 Obama and 0 Clinton, not 1 and 1, as the powers that be were initially trying to allocate them.

The 15% threshold still applies in the selection of DC's 10 regular delegates. In addition, even though there is a pecking order for the PLEO delegate slots, they must be allocated first by presidential preference. In short, we read the plan & checked the math. We were right, the local Democratic party was wrong. But everyone, Obama supporters, Clinton supporters, the media, was assuming that the party officials were correct and nobody like to do math.

Now came the hard part. Virtually everyone, Obama supporters, Clinton supporters, the media, was assuming that the party officials were correct. We called. We e-mailed. At first we received slightly patronizing but polite responses from the party leaders. Sorry, this is settled, thanks for your interest, go away. We called & e-mailed some more. We tried a few contacts in the local media they thought it was too inside baseball. Even the campaign folks were hard to reach, the delegate counters are very busy folks. Some of our supporters who also happened to be local politicians were hesitant to upset the soon-to-be annointed Clinton delegate who was also the most senior City Councilman. We made it clear that we would challenge the results of a 1-1 allocation.

Finally, the weekend before official delegate selection on April 3, a few people got interested. There were a lots of phone calls back & forth & lots of e-mail. The Obama campaign got interested and liked our math skills. A few people took us seriously. Suddenly the local Dem Chair was concerned. Some people thought we had a personal grudge against Councilman Evans (not so). Meetings were held. Voices were raised. Our math & our intrepretation of the rules held up and with little fanfare the DCDSC selected 2 PLEO delegates pledged to Obama on April 3, not 1-1.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/5/112643/6837/528/490677


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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 05:22 PM
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1. =) WELL DONE!!
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DUyellow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 05:28 PM
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2. GOBAMA!!!... GOBAMA!!!
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Pavlovs DiOgie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 05:32 PM
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3. Nice!
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 05:37 PM
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4. job well done people
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 05:39 PM
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5. Where does that leave the totals from DC?
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:15 AM
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20. Here is something from today including a roundup
WASHINGTON (Map, News) - A D.C. Council member and unpledged Democratic delegate has withdrawn his prominent public support for Sen. Hillary Clinton, preferring instead to be listed as undecided in the race for the nomination.

Ward 5 D.C. Councilman Harry Thomas Jr. was elected last week by the D.C. Democratic State Committee as a delegate to the national convention. Thomas, who had previously endorsed Clinton, was listed as a Clinton backer on a delegate spreadsheet circulated Monday by the committee.

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The District will send 39 delegates to the Democratic convention in Denver, including 15 pledged delegates, the 20 so-called superdelegates and two unpledged add-on delegates — Thomas and Ward 7 Councilwoman Yvette Alexander.

Although Barack Obama romped in D.C.’s Feb. 12 primary, taking 75 percent to Clinton’s 24 percent, the most recent count, according to the local committee, has 21 for Obama, 12 for Clinton and the remaining six undecided. Every vote is considered crucial in the tight race for delegates.

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Council Chairman Vincent Gray and at-large Councilman Kwame Brown, both Obama backers, will join Thomas and Alexander in Denver. The Democratic State Committee will elect the last three delegates on May 1, two for Obama and one for Clinton, to finish up the D.C. roster.

According to the local party, the only unpledged D.C. superdelegates are Anita Bonds, the state committee chairwoman, Donna Brazile, Larry Cohen, Mona Mohib and Christine Warnke.


http://www.examiner.com/a-1326716~D_C__councilman_no_longer_member_of_Clinton_camp.html

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flor de jasmim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 05:44 PM
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6. True grassroots spirit! Well done!
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msedano Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 10:16 PM
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7. a firm bit of advice:
always read the manual.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 10:48 PM
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8. Wow! Thanks! Math is our
forte and friend!
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JayFredMuggs Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 10:30 AM
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11. I really hate it when the math and the facts
get in the way to crowning Queen Hillary!

:argh:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:48 PM
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19. Well, at least you're
honest! :P
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VenusRising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 10:52 PM
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9. All hail St. Abacus!!
I am so glad that there are math geniuses out there in our party. Another great catch!

:applause::applause::applause:
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 10:25 AM
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10. Excellent!! k&r
:kick:
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 10:36 AM
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12. Wow. K&R for more delegates!
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 10:36 AM
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13. Nice! Good work grunts.
:bounce:
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Ysabel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:17 PM
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14. :) :) :) n/t...
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:21 PM
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15. Obama Supporters: Dedicated to process, untiring and will continue to work LONG into his Presidency
to return this country to what it should be.. a representative democracy of the people, by the people and FOR the people !
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:47 PM
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16. Good job!
K & R :thumbsup:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:52 PM
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17. I Just KNEW Math Would Come In Handy Someday !!! - K & R !!!
:woohoo:

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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:14 PM
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18. I so admire people who can do this stuff
I suck at math :(
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:38 AM
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21. Glad you guys stayed on this! Hillary breaks enough rules without having help! n/t
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:47 AM
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22. outstanding
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