Here's a primary lesson for everyone:

[boston bean]

All states are BLUE in a Democratic primary or caucus.

The danger is when they turn RED in the general.

[Maddy McCall]

1. That's right.

I've actually seen amateur pundits here claim that Mississippi will be blue because of the huge margin Obama carried the state over Clinton.

:rofl:

Catching my breath...

:rofl:

!!!

[boston bean]

2. I have seen posts where people say Barack will win 48 of 50 states.

I almost died choking when I read that one.

[Maddy McCall]

3. That only demonstrates how many political novices are posting here these days.

Wonder if they'll throw a tantrum when their predictions don't hold true.

:D

[boston bean]

4. When they have their faces planted in their hands because Barack didn't carry

Alaska or Mississippi.

:rofl:

[Maddy McCall]

LOL. Or Alabama or Florida...

or many of the other states they're so sure he'll easily carry.

:spray:

:rofl:

[griffi94]

9. there may be some tantrums

but i'm expecting to hear lots of cries about voter fraud, and if he should lose in nov. i expect his supporters to blame it on hillary.

[Maddy McCall]

12. They've already started that.

Posts here that if Obama loses, it will be Hillary's fault for "attacking" him during the primary. The political novices that they are, they have no idea what's coming down the Republican pike for him if he's the nominee.

[griffi94]

5. i've seen the same thing

said about texas and south carolina. the problem seems to be that because his supporters love him so much they wrongly conclude that everybody else does as well.
earlier today in a thread that had some poll numbers showing a close race in november, i saw somebody post that as soon as the primary was over and the public started seeing the real obama via the media, he would win in a landslide. the media wouldn't dare turn on obama and give mccain a free pass, and every voter in america will make the same effort to be informed as the political activists on this forum.

[Maddy McCall]

6. Exactly.

:thumbsup:

[boston bean]

8. I swear most have never been invested in an election, and if they have, completely lost reality. nt

[Maddy McCall]

11. I agree.

They can't understand why the Obama effect that they feel doesn't osmosize (is that a word?) from them to every other American.

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

7. Does that mean democrats will only win Minnesota?

Because, after all, every state but Minnesota was red in 1984.

Actaully, I'm not even certain what the point of your OP is. Yes, states that have traditionally voted for Republicans will tend to vote for Republicans in this election, but that certainly isn't set in stone, and is certainly no reason to not campaign like hell in every single state.

[boston bean]

10. umm different circumstances. it was a second term for Reagan and the blue turned red, not vice versa

[griffi94]

15. i seem to recall

that the democrats won a couple of presidential elections since then.
so the over the top exaggeration isn't exactly a true barometer. the democrats should contest every state, but obama isn't a favorite anywhere in the south or in any of the solid red states in the west, and to say over and over that he'll win in a landslide is the same as wishful deluded thinking. there's been polling data that show him losing ohio and pennsylvania, polling data isn't gosphel, but ignore it at your own peril.

[DarienComp]

13. So, should we just give up on them?

[boston bean]

14. Don't use red state wins to bolster an electability argument for your candidate.

That is the point. There are states democrats will never ever win this election season.

[DarienComp]

16. Which ones?

[boston bean]

17. I think you know and some of them include states Hillary has won.

But she has won the states that are blue just about always.

[DarienComp]

18. My best guess would be Utah, or Alabama...

but honestly, is it inconceivable that North Dakota or one of the Carolinas will never go Dem?

[tekisui]

19. Sorry, you are wrong.

Blue States(as per 2004):

Obama Wins: WA,MN,WI,IL,DE,MD,HI,ME,VT,CT,DC--11

Hillary Wins: CA,NY,NJ,RI,NH,MA--6

[Bluenorthwest]

21. I see at least one missing

2004 Blue State. Oregon. Kerry 2004.

[tekisui]

22. They've not voted yet.

I didn't count the one's that haven't voted.

PA is also Blue and hasn't voted yet. I predict two more for Obama.

[tekisui]

20. Obama has won more "Blue States"

And he has won more "Red States"

And, for real, many states have the potential to turn in 2008:

Iowa, Virginia, Missouri, Colorado and Florida. Any of those could realistically turn Blue this Fall.

[crankychatter]

23. multiple accounts eh?

*yawn*