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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 08:51 PM
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McClatchy: Is Hillary Clinton dishonest? A lot of Americans think so
Is Hillary Clinton dishonest? A lot of Americans think so

By Steven Thomma and William Douglas | McClatchy Newspapers
April 5, 2008


WASHINGTON — The flap over Hillary Clinton's false claim that she braved sniper fire during a 1996 trip to Bosnia has highlighted a problem that's plagued her for much of her public life: A lot of people think she's dishonest.
Ever since she stepped onto the national stage when her husband ran for president in 1992, she's found her honesty challenged along with his — sometimes thanks to her failure to tell the truth and sometimes thanks to the eagerness of her critics to portray innocent misstatements as lies.

Either way, the issue has helped to define her and put a drag on her political standing.
"This is a real difficulty for her," said independent pollster John Zogby. "With Bill Clinton, there was always an honesty problem. But he always was able to overcome it through charm and brilliance ... It doesn't look like she is able to transcend those fundamental problems that she has with the truth."

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A recent Gallup Poll found that 53 percent of Americans think Clinton isn't "honest and trustworthy." Just 29 percent said the same of her Democratic rival Barack Obama, and 27 percent said it of Republican John McCain.

Gallup analyst Jeffrey Jones called the credibility gap between Clinton and McCain "the largest between any two candidates for any dimension tested."
Another recent poll, this one conducted by the nonpartisan Pew Research Center before Clinton had to back down from her account of her Bosnia trip, found that 29 percent of white Democrats considered her a "phony," almost twice as many as the 15 percent who described Obama that way.

Pew researchers concluded that Democrats' views of Clinton "are more influenced by perceptions that she is phony than by any other trait or emotion tested."
More than just a passing complaint, the doubts about her honesty color overall opinions of her, said Andrew Kohut, the director of the Pew center.
"There's some deep perception of her," Kohut said. "What the analysis shows is this perception of being a phony is a real driver — this has an impact on her overall favorability rating."

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SOME CASES WHERE CLINTON'S HONESTY HAS BEEN CHALLENGED

The White House Travel Office:

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Vince Foster:

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The Family and Medical Leave Act:

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The North American Free Trade Agreement:

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The State Children's Health Insurance Program:

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Africa:

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Chelsea Clinton and Sept. 11:

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mrJJ Donating Member (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 09:06 PM
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1. Substantiated untruths
I dont know about The White House Travel Office, Vince Foster, The Family and Medical Leave Act, Africa or Chelsea Clinton and Sept. 11. I prefer to stick to ONLY what I believe what the candidate herself has said about her actions in this campaign.

I do know that Sen Clinton; in her own voice has lied about the following:

Nafta
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BrPZYbCdJ4

Bosnia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It6JN7ALF7Y

Ireland
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBCmKkLdCuA

http://www.fladems.com/page/-/documents/THREE_pledge_versions.pdf

October 11, 2007
Flashback: Does Michigan Matter to Clinton?

Hillary Clinton, during which she was asked about the Michigan primary:

"I personally did not think it made any difference, whether or not my name was on the ballot. You know, it's clear, in this election they're having, it is not going to count for anything."

http://www.youtube.com/user/MDRUDGE

HILLARY IS ONE BIG 'MIS'TAKE
Now Hillary denies that she denied she said Obama can't win.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/04042008/news/nationalnews/...

Votes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_eBIpEuO4U

Feb 19, 2008:
Hillary Clinton says "speeches don't put food on the table!"
Bill's speeches sure as hell put food on their table! $51 Million Dollars worth
Anyone think that Hillary knew she was lying? or perhaps mis-spoke err maybe she forgot about the $51 Million.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 09:15 PM
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2. The Obama Campaign Really Deserves All the Credit For This Headline and Should Be Commended For
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 09:16 PM by Crisco
Brilliant strategy.

Best of luck in the GE with it.
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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:10 PM
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3. I think when Senator Clinton had the lead early

She stayed in general election mode to long. She got swift-boated by Reps more than anything. When Edwards dropped out, it took Marta and I a few days to decide between the two. My union AFSCME backed her, and that was big in my mind. In the end we went with Obama. It was close. Don't ask about our reasons. I'm not going to say any real negatives about a great Democratic Senator from NY. The fat lady ain't sung yet.

OS

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