Sweetie-Gate at DU

[SunsetDreams]

I hear there is a thread on DU filled with complaints about Barack Obama calling one of his supporters "sweetie".
I must have that person on ignore, if there really is a thread like that.

Here is my thoughts:

This is beyond the pale. This stuff makes me so angry as a woman. We have worked hard over the years to overcome sexism of REAL magnitude. Someone wants to feign outrage over someone calling a woman sweetie??? Good grief, this is like crying wolf. All this stuff needs to stop, because these people are ruining it for women who DO have real sexism claims. If we cry sexism at every turn, eventually we will fall on deaf ears. I am pissed. This campaign will set women back years. Maybe my daughter will want to run for President one day, who the hell knows? Now thanks to all this, I imagine it will be years and years, before a woman gets the opportunity.

You all do Hillary no favors doing this crap. You may think you are, but you are hurting her. Hillary thanks you sincerely for making a mockery of her being a woman, by feigning faux outrage sexism claims. She has had real sexist remarks made about her, but crying wolf, just like the little boy in the story, will help these claims not be taken seriously.

Thanks for setting women back decades.

[StevieM]

1. By the standards Hillary is held to this story should lead off the nightly news for a week.

By human standards it shouldn't be the end of the world.

I have much bigger problems with Obama then this. Like the fact that he is mean and spiteful.

Steve

[Cheap_Trick]

5. yes, hillary is so full of sweetness and light

:sarcasm:

not the least bit mean or spiteful.

:sarcasm:


once again, the pot calls the kettle black. how fun.

[StevieM]

7. She is a wonderful person who has treated Barack with respect. He repaid her by treating her

like sh*t.

Steve

[TheDonkey]

9. How is denial this time of year? Must be pleasant.

[DerekJ]

11. It’s part of their manufactured reality to deal with losing. Just like that DUer on a recently

locked thread htinking we all hate women, including Obama's women supporters.

Try asking him to give you an example. He won’t respond.

[ORDem]

25. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt ya know! :) n/t

:kick:

[MH1]

17. It was no "wonderful person"

who stabbed John Kerry in the back by deliberately legitimizing the right-wing smear against him over his mis-speak in October 2006.

There was no respect in that act, just petty meanness.

Hillary has treated Obama similarly, with for example, the remark that McCain is qualified to be president and Obama is "only a speech".

If you really think Hillary is a "wonderful person" who is all sweetness and light and always respectful to her political opponents, I have a bridge to sell you.


*** That said, McCain is FAR, FAR, WORSE. ***

[WolverineDG]

19. How so?

By daring to run for president the year it was her turn?

:eyes:

Sorry, but until there are numerous reports of him going around telling superdelegates she's unelectable because she's a woman, I'm going to say your statement is bullshit.

dg

[BumRushDaShow]

23. If you look at the transcripts and quotes from his speeches or interviews

he has been nothing but complimentary to Clinton. He has actually bent over backwards (often making me puke) at praising her and her campaign. So IMHO, your comment is b.s.

[mckeown1128]

24. She has treated Obama and Edwards and Richardson and

the other candidates with sexism... Does anyone remember that sexist remark about how that "all girl school helped Hillary for the all boys sport of presidential politics" that is sexism...

[Cheap_Trick]

32. must be nice, steve

when the time comes, you won't have to pay for an expensive colonoscopy since your head is already firmly planted up your ass.

[Hepburn]

39. It must be interesting, sweetie, to live in an altered universe as you do.

Is UP also DOWN there?

Just curious....

[walldude]

40. You really believe she treated Obama with respect?

You did see the 3am ad right? You did hear her espouse McCain's experience over Obama right? You call that respect? Funny we must own different dictionary's...

[proud2BlibKansan]

41. LOL How is praising McCain over Obama respectful?

"Shame on you, Barack Obama" - how is THAT respectful???

It would appear denial is a river in Egypt in your world.

[JoFerret]

54. Some truth in that

But this is politics after all.

But certainly he is no saint and way far from mister perfection of holiness or whatever. He is a politician doing what he needs to do to win. It's not always so pretty.

But I truly HATE the way the campaign has morphed into a hate-Hillary fest. Ditto here on DU.

Very unsavory. And very self-destructive.

[WillyT]

55. Dude... You Forgot Your Sarcasm Thingy...

:wtf:

[Nicole]

10. Did you just call Hillary sweetie?

You got a lot of nerve! :mad:


:rofl:

[SunsetDreams]

14. lol

[Shae]

18. I must have slept in that day.

Can you give examples of Obama being mean and spiteful, please?
Thanks in advance.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

12. Human standards? Mean and spiteful?

You hypocrite. You state you will not vote Democratic if Hillary is not the nominee. Supreme court mean anything? How about death and another war? Your little petty animosity towards Obama ("he is mean and spiteful" -- cite a fucking example!) will cause you to aide the Repuglicans in continuing their looting of this country and continuing the death and suffering in Iraq.

"I have much bigger problems with Obama then this" What a crock of shit! You personify spite and meanness, Steve. Get over yourself.

[SunsetDreams]

15. oh that's who that was?

I had no clue, my blinders are on.

[housewolf]

2. I gotta tell you... as an early baby boomer, I enjoy being called "sweetie"!

Honestly, I do not for the life of me get what all the fuss is about. The uproar around this is completely off base, INHO.

[SunsetDreams]

4. I agree....

it's way off base period.

[Syrinx]

3. when I was a little boy, an old man called me sweetie

And I kicked him in the nuts.

I was so offended.

[Cheap_Trick]

6. they've got nothing left....

grasping at straws is their endgame.

[SunsetDreams]

8. yes sadly you're right...

it's just rediculous, because this reflects on Hillary. Hillary doesn't need that kind of stuff added.

[maddiejoan]

16. it's spelled "ridiculous" , sweetie

[JoFerret]

13. It's pale

but it sucks.

And for those women (on this thread or elsewhere) who say they enjoy it etc. i am reminded how often we used to hear similar comments about the wolf whistling in the the street level of petty sexual harassment. Fortunately that is now a little more out of fashion these days.

How much we have forgotten.

And if anyone doubts the continuing existence of sexism - spend a few hours in the archives of GD-P. that's just for strters.

Obama folk - none of this makes Hillary the better candidate. You don't have to change your view. But please - open your eyes to the reality. It's sexism and it's there in ALL our lives. Just as racism is in ALL our lives. You can still vote for your candidate but let's try to "evolve" a little whenever we can. And call out sexism when we see it.

[Shae]

22. I don't get it.

I've had women cashiers in the grocery store call me "sweetie." I didn't think I was being sexually harassed.
In some contexts, it's just an endearing term. A little more personal than "Ma'am" or "Miss."
I think some people won't be happy until we all behave like robots.

[Liberal Veteran]

38. That's a good point. All this browbeating people into being afraid to show humanity...

....or simple terms of platonic affection or gratitude or even sympathy is feeding into the social disconnect of the modern age. Next up, someone will be accusing Obama of a "facecrime".

[JoFerret]

46. I guess he's a nice

boy with a cute face.

[Liberal Veteran]

47. It took you three hours to come up with that, (insert gender neutral term indicating pity)?

:rofl:

[JoFerret]

53. Three hours?

Sorry - was not glued to my screen. Will try to get up to your speed.

Great cats btw.

(Not a veiled comment of the feline variety. I genuinely love cats.)

[JoFerret]

45. And therein lies the problem

(Consciousness raising is not best accomplished on an internet discussion thread.)

[Mooney]

20. No this is worse than Rezko, Wright and bowling a 37-gate

It makes me want to throw a bookbag is disgust.

[izzybeans]

21. Your book bag is dead to me.

[proud2BlibKansan]

43. And I feel like I am dodging sniper fire

lol

[LWolf]

26. Yes, it's at least as bad as book-bag gate, lol. n/t

[livetohike]

27. Here in western PA it is common for women to call men "hon"

as in "honey". That's sweet too, :-).

[DemsUnited]

28. Yup, in Virginia too.

I'm pretty big on the "howya doin' hon" and "thanks hon"

Guess I'm being offensive and need to stop.

[Evergreen Emerald]

29. and thanks for stepping on the backs of feminists who have worked

so hard not to be marginalized or belittled by people who use names like "sweety."

Names matter.

[Liberal Veteran]

35. Have they worked as hard to stop women from calling men "Hon"?

Every time someone calls me that, I feel belittled and degraded.

(Actually, I choose my battles a bit more wisely that getting my underwear in a wad over stupid shit like "sweetie" or "hon")

[Hepburn]

37. Hey.....I would call you "hon" cuz....

...I love your posts ~~ but I would be afraid to call you that since you are surrounded by those vicious looking attack cats!

:hi:

[Hepburn]

36. Evergreen sweetie....

...are you upset? Aaaaaaaaah...take a break, OK?

BTW: Anytime I got a man to call me "sweetie," I knew I was in control of him.

Duh....:eyes:

[JoFerret]

30. Obama's sexist crap is

...sexist crap even when sugar coated.

Storm in doll's teapot.

Of COURSE Obama is sexist and racist.
So are you.
And me.

Get over it.

We should note it and try to correct the insidious signs whenever we note them.

[SoCalDem]

31. Yikes, I call some of my male friends, Honey & sweetie

Take me out back and shoot me :)

[Bonobo]

33. I was just called sweetie the other day by a checkout lady. I was polite. She called me sweetie.

I'm 41 and male. She was about 50. It was nice.

It was her way of showing she appreciated my politeness.

[DarienComp]

34. Great post, sweetie!

:hide:

[SunsetDreams]

48. Thank you sweetie :)

[Duder]

42. Good, Sweetie's for Obama then...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKP67b5dh84

[ampad]

44. LOL, you got to be kidding

I must have that "person" on ignore as well because I don't see that thread. Must be the usual suspects screaming sexism when it fits their agenda. You are right, this is beyond the pale and just down right ignorant. I swear some of you are just insane. Don't yell at me about being sexist because I probably have your crazy behind on ignore anyways. :eyes:

[SunsetDreams]

49. LOL

you sound about like me

[NeedleCast]

50. K & R

Well said.

[bunnies]

51. When I lived in NC, everybody called me "sweetie"

Same in TN where my Mom lives. I guess all southerners are sexist. :eyes: How ridiculous.

[mountainvue]

52. Well, it's a step up

from fucking whore. :shrug: