Why would the country be better with McCain?

[Red Knight]

Could all of the people from either side who swear they won't vote for Obama or Clinton please explain that to me.

And please...don't tell me about all the same corporate candidate stuff. I'm a Kucinich guy and I know all about that. To a degree that's certainly true. But if you insist there is no difference as in NO difference between McCain and the other two you're simply fooling yourself. People who voted for Nader in 2000 said the same thing about Gore/Bush.

McCain--if he's anything--is four more years of Bush.

So put your fragile emotions aside and please explain to me how that benefits your kids or grandkids or you. How do four more Bush years help anything? Is there some satisfaction in that? Is it worth it?

Lay the health care plans side by side--if you can figure out what McCain's is. We know it does not include pre-existing conditions and really doesn't do much of anything.

Me? I'm for single payer but like it or not---that's not coming right now, but we can make a bad situation worse, or try to get some small relief. I don't particularly like either Obama or Clinton's plan but it's a step in the direction of some type of reform.

MCain doesn't give you that.

Like the war? You'll love McCain. Neither Clinton or Obama are bringing the troops home when they take the oath. But they will at least START that process.

McCain is going the other way. If that doesn't scare the shit out of you, by all means stay home and tell yourself there was NO DIFFEREBCE.

Live with that. But don't lie to yourself later.

Want the Bush tax cuts permanent? Go right ahead. The wealthy will love you for it. They may even send you a Christmas card.

So go ahead. Fight, argue. Stay home. But please don't come back here crying about how bad McCain is or how it was Obama or Clinton's fault that YOU were forced to sit out the election.

Corporate candidates? Yep....I agree with that. Both of them.

Better than McCain? Absolutely.

This country is in serious trouble. SERIOUS trouble. It can't afford you to stay home. Take that anger and direct it where it belongs---toward the right. I hold many Dems responsible for this mess as well, but I have zero doubt that if Gore had been in office we would NOT be in Iraq.

Okay...you may return to your personal, petty emotional war now.

Good luck with that.

[sellitman]

1. Hopefully you get no replies

This is DU isn't it?

[Red Knight]

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[blues90]

3. I won't vote holding my nose ever again

None of the media picked candidates will get us out of the occupation and I can't say either will not allow another war to begin. I know McCain will start another war.

But what we have are three candidates at a time of the complete meltdown due to the bush admin and we could have done much better than this. A little better is not enough better.

Bush has lowered the bar to the point where a real monkey would look better.

The best candidates were ignored and this is where we went wrong.

Those so called debates were a sick joke held by media corporate shills.

I really believe these candidates were picked by the media for the reason of division in the dem party and now that this is the case there is no way to turn that around.

I will vote my conscience and if neither of my original candidates are on the ballot then I will write one in and walk away not selling out to the hype and pressure of this is all there is to offer.

The people who i feel are the fools are the ones who believe that anything will change with the selection we have.

If a candidate cannot be open and honest and has to resort to telling people anything and everything they want to hear rather than the actual truth of how bad things truly are then I have no use for them.

How many more years are the people going to play this game and take this crap?

The only way out of this and to make change is for the people to take charge and force their government employees to work for the people and not the corporations. Anything short of this is more of the same old crap that will never end.

If I am not mistaken a senator or house member is an employee of the people not a ruler.
If they intend to run for the president then they should give up their seat and run.

What other job can one have while they are out seeking another?

This campaign will be two years long while Hillary and Obama are out campaigning . Edwares gave up his seat while all others play it safe with something to fall back on, win or lose they have a position.