AP: Clinton Invokes Female Trailblazer - wants "points" for taking time to be pretty.

[bunnies]

Clinton Invokes Female Trailblazer

By BETH FOUHY – 55 minutes ago

MISSOULA, Mont. (AP) — Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton laid claim Sunday to Montana's famed female trailblazer — Jeannette Rankin, who in 1916 became the first woman ever elected to Congress.

"Remember, Jeannette Rankin was elected before women could vote. So who says men don't vote for a woman?" Clinton told an audience crowded into an airport hangar here.

(snip)

In another nod to her status as the only woman candidate in the field, Clinton noted it took her more time than her male counterparts to prepare for a day on the campaign trail.

"Do you realize how much longer it takes for me to get ready than my opponents?" Clinton said. "I think I should get points for what I do, plus having to spend so much time getting ready."

(snip)

Link: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g2GmYQUOXiqnLy9xLzDglAsYHtiQD8VSIRO80

Got that girls? Hair and make-up deserves extra credit! Women take a lot of work to be presentable dont ya know.

What a joke. This advances women how exactly?

[anigbrowl]

1. It takes longer to get ready on day one...

:crazy:

[bunnies]

4. Just imagine what happens at 3am! nt

[earthlover]

45. AT 3am....busy getting primped up

[TheDonkey]

47. LOL. What a bizzare thing this has become.

I do get where she is coming from. Coming from a female candidate that comes across as more genuine and candid this might be funny but from Hillary...... not so much.

[SwampG8r]

119. whats amazing is

if anyone else had made this comment we would be knee deep in "SEXISM" posts
double standards anyone? 2 for 1 today

[lisa58]

21. lol

[tekisui]

2. Pandering.

[boston bean]

3. Its a fn joke. ffs get a sense of humor. nt

[bunnies]

5. And you know that how? nt

[boston bean]

24. obviously i have a sense of humor you don't. nt

[bunnies]

30. So.. your definition of a sense of humor allows you to know what Hillary is thinking?

Wow. I'll come to you from now on when I want to know her reasoning for something.

For example... what was she thinking when she voted to authorize the war? Thanks in advance!

[Mooney]

wooooooooshhhhhhh...

[Hepburn]

60. Well, with that I would agree....

...in order to keep supporting Hillary, one would definitely need a good sense of humor.

JMHO

[Hepburn]

57. ....

:eyes:

Don't you ever get tired of making excuses for Hillary-Ditz? It is isn't lies falling from her lips, it is bullshit like this.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

6. I'm always sprinkling "Jeannette Rankin" throughout my daily speech.

It gets some puzzled looks.

[polichick]

7. It might've been pandering, but I give her credit for pulling together so many outfits...

For me, policy issues are far easier than hair and appropriate outfits!

[bunnies]

11. She needs to ditch that yellow and black one though.

It makes her look like hell.

[polichick]

18. Lol - that one is a little much...

But I'm barely able to get out of jeans, so I have no room to talk!

[lisa58]

27. Where is the coral one...

...she wore it at one of the debates - I really like the color on her (so much better than the black).

[bunnies]

34. I actually really like her in the dark reddish one she's worn a couple of times.

It might be tweed... Im not sure. But imho... she looks great in it.

[lisa58]

35. I know the one....

...it does look good on her. I would love to look that good at 60 - maybe my husband and I should try writing books for millions, then I'll be able to afford all the "product" necessary.

[bunnies]

40. I hear ya.

She's got 25 years on me and at the rate I'm going... I'll look 80. My x-sister in law used to give me a discount on product. But now Im divorced... so Im screwed. :hi:

[hfojvt]

38. It's the yellow and black attack!

You can't stop the rock!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqdRAkvV5Hk&feature=related

[Hepburn]

64. Yeah.....

...it's really not very flattering on her, IMO. I think it looks better on him:



:hi:

[lisa58]

23. ditto

[Cha]

8. Yeah, how's that workin' out for ya, hil?

[Willo]

70. Ooh, mind if I borrow that?

Nice little disenfranchisement stopper ;)

[Cha]

84. I borrowed it and I'm

passing it on to you!

[Window]

82. I still have difficulty with that statement. Talk about cocky...dayum.

[Cha]

87. The beginning of the end ..right there

for hilary. Kinda makes me go all happy inside.

[Window]

125. Yep, agree.

It has come back to bite her in the behind...continuously.:rofl:

If I were she, I'd be so embarrassed.

[Willo]

99. It was partly the reason why FL moved up with little regard to the voters

Hillary was calling it the way the deck was stacked to work out.

But, we you know what they say about the best laid plans.

However, if she truly expected to be around they would have the money now.

[Window]

126. Unreal.

What a piece of work.

[Cha]

127. The Best Laid Plans of Mice, Men,

and hilary.

[azmouse]

9. Hillary sounds sexist.

[MADem]

10. Uh, be accurate. Getting READY isn't getting PRETTY.

But that ruins your little "story" now, doesn't it?

And if you are so small minded that you can get all shitty and shirty about that lighthearted comment, you really are grasping for any reason to fling shit.

Politics of Hope and Change, my ass. More like politics of childishness and stupidity.

You REALLY do your candidate "proud" with that kind of post. It's a keeper as an example of the OPPOSITE of "Change We Can Believe In!"


:rofl:

[bunnies]

right. Like that changes anything.

It takes her longer to "get ready" than the men.

Whats the point of making a thing of it? Its all... "sexism sexism" Obama said Sweetie!!!
But Hillary talking about women taking longer to be presentable? Thats all funny. Go Girl. Go Makeup!

[MADem]

44. Love the way the "Change We Can Believe In" has infected y'all.

I never said jackshit about the "Sweetie" imbroglio--so why are you crying to ME about it? Why not take it up with those who actually said something that bothered you? On the threads that addressed the issue, instead of playing the "start a pissy thread in response" game? Hmmmmm?

That's your "excuse" for posting this crap, really?


Why, if your "schtick" really is "Hope" and "Change" do you put forth a bullshit "two wrongs make a right" post? It makes you look very small and petty.

Why do you misrepresent her words? Misrepresent is a nice way of saying "not tell the truth" you know.

If you have a problem with the "Sweetie" people, take it up with them. Don't change READY to PRETTY and then start carping about what the Senator said, with a goal towards denigrating her and changing the meaning of her words and suggesting that her comments were anything more than lighthearted.

That's not "change" anyone can believe in. That's the shitty act of someone with no game, who can't be bothered to spread his candidate's message, and who wants to win by shitting on the opposition over STUPID stuff.

Fired up! Ready to GO :hurts: !!! Indeed. :eyes:

[bunnies]

129. Sweetie. Im not the one crying.

Unlike your "girl", its not my thing. Actually I was laughing at how easily some of you Clintonists spaz out over something so ridiculous. Thanks for making my point.

And you can play semantics with what your girl said all you want. But lets not pretend "ready" doesnt have anything to do with pretty. I guess she spends all that extra time to do other thing those big bad men dont do. Such as: Uh.... Hmmmm. You let me know what that is.

Oh.. and by the way. This freakish thing about throwing Obama's slogans into his supporters faces? It doesnt work.

You might not realize this but... Im not Obama. And those are not my slogans. I'm a little better off intellectually than to have to adopt a campaign slogan as my own personal mantra.

And furthermore... You, of all people, really shouldnt be handing out lectures on being nice.

[MADem]

130. "Girl" eh? How "sweet" of you. We'll not bring up any Boy talk, though.

THAT would be in poor taste......too.

Fired up. Ready to go!

[tekisui]

26. Changing it to pretty wasn't necessary.

The fact that she invoked Rankin, was bad enough.

[MADem]

51. I thought it was an appropriate invocation, actually.

Nothing wrong with bringing up someone you admire, who blazed the path for you. It was a relevant reference.

[SammyWinstonJack]

48. Real petty wasn't it?

:thumbsup:

[americanstranger]

53. Define 'getting ready,' then.

Does it mean it takes her longer to study the issues?

Does it mean it takes her longer to memorize talking points?

Longer to read campaign briefs? Longer to walk up the stairs of the campaign jet or get on the bus?

Maybe you oughta just stay with 'getting pretty.' The other alternatives don't speak well to her even being a candidate.

- as

[MADem]

77. Wow, what a post! Full of HOPE, and CHANGE you can BELIEVE IN!!

Way to represent your candidate!

You sure are fired up!

Ready to GO :hurts: !!!

[americanstranger]

78. Dodge.

You qualified 'getting ready.'

Now define it. C'mon, you can do it.

Or you can continue with your rants full of "quotation marks" and CAPS that say absolutely nothing.

If all you have is unfocused rage, fine. Just say so.

Or define 'getting ready.' Up to you.

[americanstranger]

89. (Crickets)

I'm beginning to think you're not here to win an argument - just to argue.

- as

[MADem]

93. Thought you might like this link there, "Cricket" A bit impatient and fixated, are you?

http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/obsessive-compulsive-disorder-ocd/index.shtml

[americanstranger]

94. Dodge #2.

And if you want to see an obsessive, visit the nearest mirror.

C'mon, tough guy. You questioned the definition of 'getting ready.'

Gimme you definition, if you can muster the brain cells to do so. I'm beegining to have my doubts.

- as

[MADem]

92. Dodge, my ass. Does Obama wear makeup? How long does it take him

to comb and arrange his hair, do you suppose? Think he grabs one of those curling irons, blow dryers and uses the hairspray on his flowing locks, hmmmm? How about all the time he has to take to put on his brassiere and girdle, and pantihose/stockings, or what have you? Maybe he wears a more complex "foundation garment" I believe they're called?

You've obviously never had the company of a woman for any substantial period of time, if you can be so fucking obtuse as to not understand the mechanics of their clothing. Did you grow up at a logging camp, or something? It's not shower, shave, skivvies, shirt, tie, socks, shoes, suit and out the door for the ladies. Their stuff is a bit more complicated. And then, there's the jewelry--I never really noticed Obama's earrings, bracelets, necklaces, and rings much--say, are his ears pierced, or does he use those clip on earrings?

If anyone has a rage and rant problem, it's you.... My Little Pretty. :rofl:

You're just so ANGRY about Senator Clinton's hair, makeup and clothing, annoyed and combative at the possibility that it might take her LONGER to get dressed--why, I have no idea...but it's so important to you that you're compelled to make a federal case out of it.

Fired up, are ya? Ready to GO?? :hurts:

Interesting, that.

You keep working on that Hope and Change schtick...

[americanstranger]

95. Dodge #3.

Define 'getting ready.'

I don't need your usual blind rage.

just a simple definition. A smart guy like you can do that, right?

Right??

- as

[MADem]

106. Read my post, there Cricket. I even provided details for ya!

Right down to the underwear!

You really need to look into this, I think.

http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/obsessive-compulsive-disorder-ocd/index.shtml

[americanstranger]

108. Dodge #4.

You coulda saved yourself a whole lot of (mostly calorie-free) ranting if you'd just answered, oh 6 or 7 posts ago.

Let me know when you have a point to make. Thanks.

- as

[MADem]

110. Reading isn't your strong suit, eh, Cricket? Six or seven posts, eh?

http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/obsessive-compulsive-disorder-ocd/index.shtml

[americanstranger]

112. I love reading stuff with actual content.

Let me know when you produce something that meets that criteria.

So far, you haven't gotten close. But hey - some people are up to making the barest semblance of sense, some ain't.

- as

[MADem]

113. I did, Cricket. Not my fault you've got comprehension issues.

:hurts:

[americanstranger]

114. I'm just averse to disjointed ranting.

And you define 'disjointed ranting.'

My comprehension's fine, son. But your raintings are damn near incomprehensible. Work on that, 'kay?

- as

[MADem]

115. Self loathing is an issue for you, then. NT

[americanstranger]

116. I'd say you finally stopped making sense,

but that would imply that you made sense in the first place, so that's out.

Your turn. Dance some more. You're only boring me slightly at this point.

- as

[MADem]

117. I'd say you're wrong. As would most people. NT

[americanstranger]

118. Ah. Most people would say I'm wrong?

Take any of your posts and scawl them in crayon, and 'most people' would think they were composed by a dim third-grader.

Dance, puppet. Dance.

- as

[SwampG8r]

120. told ya!!!

i gotta give the hillary cult points
they only have 1 or 2 things left to say but they say them all they can

[hfojvt]

12. she compared herself to Rankin? To Rankin?

:nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

Does everybody not know the other distinction of Jeanette Rankin?

Everybody?

She was the only person in Congress who voted AGAINST American entry into WWI and WWII.

Jeanette Rankin voted even against what I would consider a just and necessary war - WWII. And Hillary compares herself to Rankin?

If Hillary knew anything about Rankin, or cared about what Rankin stood for, she would have opposed the Iraq war.

Here's my favorite Rankin quote:

"You can no more win a war, than you can win an earthquake."

[tekisui]

17. That's what got me about it. Rankin was an ardent pacifist.

She would be counter to so many of Hillary's votes and policy stances.

But, they're both women so they are exactly the same, right?.....Right?

[lisa58]

28. great quote...

...I don't know anything about her - thanks for that.

[WillyT]

54. Here Ya Go:

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeannette_Rankin

:hi:

[Kahuna]

13. How pathetic. nt

[Yael]

14. And where are the shills with the claims of SEXISM!!!

Come on, sweeties, I know you are out there.

Call it!

[goldcanyonaz]

15. I would be willing to bet that Obama wears just as much makeup as her.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

29. Your point?

[blogslut]

31. You should have lunch with Maureen Dowd

The you both can snicker over the feminine Obama while eating watercress sandwiches and sipping tea.

[goldcanyonaz]

32. I wouldn't spare a square for that woman if she were in the stall next to me.

She's filth.

[blogslut]

37. Ahh

So, why do you make such cracks? How does implying that Barack Obama wears make-up help forward the abolishment of sexual stereotypes?

[goldcanyonaz]

49. They all wear makeup. Bush, Clinton, Nixon, etc. It's just a fact.

No big deal.

[blogslut]

58. Nuh uh

You're not getting out of this one so easy.

First off, if I were to make an educated guess (20 years in theater plus a cosmetology degree) if Barack Obama wears make-up, it would be for television appearances. I bet ten to one, all he needs is powder to quash the shine from the lights.

Your implication is that the man wears make-up 24/7. Personally I have no problem with that but apparently you do or you wouldn't have made that crack in the first place.

Why do you play these games? How can you cry "sexism" one one thread and not see the sexism in your own words?

[tammywammy]

61. ...

[goldcanyonaz]

67. If you don't think Obama doesn't wear makeup in public you've got another thing coming.

The man is out and about 24/7 and without makeup would look like most of us after a good nights drinking.

What's the big fucking deal anyway?

[blogslut]

72. Keep digging

Do you understand the benefits of a high melanin content? The skin does not age as quickly and the tone looks good under even studio lights. Barack Obama does not need makeup.

The "big fucking deal" is your crack. You throw it out there and think it will go unnoticed. Well, I noticed.

Now, tell me, do you not see the sexism in your crack?

[goldcanyonaz]

76. Bullshit, I'm black and get dark circles just like white folk. Quit perpetuating stereotypes.

We also get an uneven skin tone, grow the fuck up.

[blogslut]

88. Yes, I am familiar with eye bags

and ashy skin. I also know that eye bags have nothing to do with race.

My question for you is, why do you promote sexist stereotypes? Why do you not understand your own sexism?

[goldcanyonaz]

91. Oh, so not you're black. This is rich.

[blogslut]

96. You're avoiding the question

No. I'm not black. I am however, a former cosmetologist. Dark eye circles are about blood vessels.

Now, let's get back to your sexism...

[goldcanyonaz]

100. Since you're not black you have no idea where I'm coming from.

Your racism like my sexism is noted.

Whereas I have no sexism.

[blogslut]

103. Do, explain my racism

I'm all ears

[goldcanyonaz]

104. Do explain my sexism.

[blogslut]

105. You first

Actually, I really don't care anymore. You're not going to change your mind. So, let us part ways because this is getting tiresome.

[goldcanyonaz]

107. You drink beer? Cuz, I gots plenty.

[blogslut]

109. No

I do not drink. But thank you. Laters.

[SwampG8r]

121. well i know the answer to that

they only look at the world through these special hillary reality glasses!

[BumRushDaShow]

43. Not even a ply?

:rofl:

[goldcanyonaz]

86. Not even a USED ply at that. She's filth.

[tekisui]

42. Exactly, it was a sexist comment from HIllary.

[goldcanyonaz]

59. Comeon, most women wear makeup. Is wearing makeup sexist now?

[tekisui]

69. You just said Obama wears make-up, too.

Which I am sure he does. I just don't think Hillary deserves points for "taking longer" to get ready. Obama may very well take longer than her.

[goldcanyonaz]

73. It's a joke, can't we ever just laugh here? I am.

[tekisui]

74. Yeppers.

I can, and am with you.

:hi:

[SwampG8r]

122. if we judge

by preparation and truthiness he must take hours longer to get ready than hillary

[Hepburn]

68. ...

...sure he does....he is a 60 year old, fair-skinned female...:eyes:

Pssssssst ~~~~ Years of sunlight is usually NOT kind to fair-skinned people. Duh....

[MADem]

81. That HARDBALL College Tour with the mascara and pancake, he looked like Norma Desmond!

"Mister DeMille...I'm ready for my close up!"

[lisa58]

16. She looks great...

...hair/make-up - I give her points for that. I couldn't do that every day - nor could I afford someone to do it for me every day.

[Evergreen Emerald]

19. ohmygod how dare she say that. See? I TOLD YOU SHE WAS EVIL

What shall we do? I can't wait for her to be gone from the democratic party. How dare she. How dare SHE. OH THE HUMANITY.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

33. Nice avoidance of using sexism as a tool in a political speech.

Well done.

[Evergreen Emerald]

36. I have got to gets these Obama rules down.

Rule 1. Now, it is ok to call a woman "sweety" as it is not sexist at all. But it is not ok to mention the fact that she has to take longer to get ready in our society because of what women have to wear. Any mention of her gender by her is OFF LIMITS at it is using sex to gain votes.

Rule 2. It is not ok for ANYONE to mention that Obama is black, but it IS ok for Obama to use his race to gain votes.

Dang, I guess the easy version of the ObamaRules: anything Clinton does or says is evil. Anything Obama does or says it awesome.

Got it.

[blogslut]

20. Oh, the irony

I know plenty of men who take way longer to get ready than any woman.

Hillary, your stereotypes are old. You need new ones.

[sniffa]

22. Yet more Ctrl+Sexism from HRC

:grr:

[Vinca]

25. Before this note on her grooming habits, she was on a rather

peculiar train of thought about voting. She was talking about reasons for voting for a candidate and she mentioned something like "you might not like the way someone looks." That may not be the exact quote, but very close. I hope she wasn't implying what it sounded like.

[rainbow4321]

39. And if Obama had made a comment re: women/HRC taking longer to get ready...

There would be hell to pay in the M$M, with HRC leading the pack.

We don't want someone "ready" w/ their looks, HRC, we want someone READY to fix the problems that we are about to inherit from the current regime.

I guess since that whole race card thing didn't pan out for her she now has moved on to battle of the sexs and the "but, I'm a GIRL....".

And she can all the "points" she wants...she can have all the points and Obama gets all the delegates. Surprised she didn't do a Freudian slip and say "get more deleg-, ah, points"

[Mooney]

41. "So who says men don't vote for a woman?"

Actually Hillary, nobody says that but you.

[tekisui]

46. Hillary loves sexism when she thinks it will help her.

"I'm your girl!"

[Evergreen Emerald]

50. my god what a bunch of bullshit?

Why is it off limits for Clinton to mention the fact that she is female? SHE IS FEMALE after all?

Obama talks about his race ALL THE TIME.

Honestly what the hell is wrong with DU?

[tekisui]

52. You don't see this as a sexist comment.

"Do you realize how much longer it takes for me to get ready than my opponents?" Clinton said. "I think I should get points for what I do, plus having to spend so much time getting ready."

[Evergreen Emerald]

56. Seriously. Are only the loonies remaining today?

How?

1. She is female
2. It does take longer to get ready
3. It was a fucking joke
4. you have lost it.

[americanstranger]

62. Well, you're still here. n/t

- as

[Evergreen Emerald]

65. Me against the loonies.

It is kinda fun, but certainly stunning. I am amazed at the ideals here on DU today.

[americanstranger]

79. That's one way of looking at it, I guess. n/t

- as

[tekisui]

66. And she deserves points for that?

How does she know it takes her longer than Obama to get ready? Fine, it was a joke. I just found the tone a little sexist. It's not a deal breaker or a show stopper.

I've lost nothing. I started with nothing to lose.:toast:

[SwampG8r]

123. oh my god

i just got it
shes moving the goalposts again and now we are going to use "miss america' rules
i know obama has her beat for poise and swimwear
anyone know what his talent will be?
other than not shilling for the status quo i mean

[MADem]

101. I have a feeling that we've got a few folks here who really aren't interested in the agenda

of "Hope" or "Change." They're more wired into the "politics of personal destruction."

I notice that kind of shit is coming more from people that I don't know. The people who were here before this contest lit off are not as rude or denigrating.

The ones that are FIRED UP and READY TO GO :hurts: after Clinton 24/7 I really do wonder about. They aren't doing their putative candidate any favors, and you have to wonder just WHO their candidate actually is?

[SwampG8r]

124. self description?

[Poll_Blind]

63. I know what you mean- it's like she can't decide which image she wants to...

...portray of herself. I think she does it to try to appeal to as many people as possible.

  That "I'm your girl" shit- dude, I was already for Obama at that point but come on! GIRL? How about "Sometimes the best man for the job is this WOMAN". I dunno, it's just creepy.

  BTW, the people who are saying they have no idea what you're saying in your post- they're full of posturing shit and they know it too.

PB

[Hepburn]

55. She makes me feel...

...very ill. :puke:

She is a ditz...a joke...something out of a sitcom. And...this kind of shit makes me mad as hell.

:grr: Geeeeeeeez, how disgusting...women only count in Hillaryworld if they have perfect make-up and hair.

[pdxmom]

71. Without a shadow of a doubt, if a male opponent had made a similar

joke about Hillary needing more time to get ready and she should get extra points for it, the Hillary supporters would be screaming bloody murder about how sexist that person was, demanding an apology etc. It is no different than an African-American using the n-word and saying it's okay because they are black, so they can say it.

What Hillary said is sexist. Period.

[cbayer]

75. "Our culture's double standard on appearance puts her at a disadvantage."

This is a very thoughtful piece about this issue that was in the LA Times recently. I would ask that people take a look at it because whether you like it or not, this is a real issue.

Clinton's lost face time

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-kinsley27mar27,0,6660646.story

I find it pretty stunning that this OP was put up to ridicule her statement concerning this topic and then there was post after post critiquing her appearance. Stunning in its hypocrisy.

[madmom]

80. This thread is proof of one thing, and one thing only.......

that you stupid asses will fight and argue about anything!:banghead:

[boppers]

83. Before women could vote: Another Hillary Lie.

"Remember, Jeannette Rankin was elected before women could vote."

Women could vote in Montana in 1914, in part due to Rankin's efforts.

Two years later in 1916, Rankin was elected by Montana.

Four years after that, in 1920, the Nineteenth amendment was ratified.

Hillary's no supporter of Women's rights, she doesn't even appear to know the basic minimal facts about them.

[americanstranger]

85. Well, it's obvious what she meant!

'Before women could vote in a state that counts!'

Nice catch, BTW.

- as

[tammywammy]

90. Wyoming was the first state that allowed women to vote

It did as a territory and still did when it joined the Union in 1890

[JimGinPA]

98. Hillary Is Not Going To Let The True Facts Get In The Way Of A Good Story

:crazy:

[varelse]

97. This thread advances her rival's campaign how, exactly?

She was joking... it's obvious... and picking at every little perceived blemish until it bleeds, then picking at the scab till that bleeds (rinse, repeat) benefits no one. My comment also applies equally to 'sweetie-gate', 'baby/punishment-gate', 'pastor-gate', and 'the great bowling crisis' - it's not a partisan statement, as I have no dog in this fight any longer.

Just sayin'

[boppers]

102. Her gaffes and mis-steps tell us what to expect.

One or two flubs are forgettable. Chronic behavioral attributes speaks about her character.

Yeah, she was just joking about being a racist when it came to convenience stores, she was just joking about being a war hero, she was just illustrating a point by passing on a lie about a hospital, she was just being jovial about making cookies.

Just like Limpbaugh and O'Reilly are "just joking".

I think it's good for people to decide whether or not they want the "humor" of a radio talk show host in their President.

[varelse]

111. She seemed to be poking fun at

herself and it appears to have been an offhand comment or casual remark taken out of context and blown out of all proportion. The same thing has been done, ad nauseum, to casual or unrehearsed comments made by Obama or his staff members. It's unlikely to win any points with the undecided voter, and would tend to have the effect of causing the partisans of your opponent to dig in even harder.

The scab-picking is just a poor strategy for winning new supporters for either of the two candidates, IMO.

The comments made (yes, in this thread) on her attempt to compare herself to a prominent feminist who helped women win the right to vote are far more useful, because they are less likely to appear to be petty, small-minded and mean-spirited and more likely to be taken seriously by people who haven't chosen between the two yet.

It's the difference in focus that I'm talking about. One type of attack will only win you new enemies, the other may be seen as fair criticism by all but her most ardent supporters (who you aren't going to get anyway).

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128. That sounds like a sexist remark to me.

So she can make sexist remarks and that is ok? If a man said that she would be demanding they were sent to a guillotine.