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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:32 AM
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Obama Ties it up in PA !!!! 45-45
But don't get too excited. The polls that have been showing him
closing in a lot don't have too good a record on predictions.

Cautiously optimistic!!

http://americanresearchgroup.com/

Published earlier this year on Firedoglake.com
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:35 AM
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1. K&R
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:36 AM
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2. If Obama wins PA, it's over. And she is starting lose the superdelegate battle..
Bye Hillary, it was fun.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:42 AM
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5. I was trying to remember who was it that said she should drop
out on March 4th? Not because she didn't have the
right to stay, but that she would do herself so
much good - if she did. I think they were so
right. Now she is so dangerously close to being the sour
grape spoiler by many, many people.

I wonder how she'll be treated in the Senate now.

Something quite insane about staying in with the
full knowledge that the math isn't there and
if you do manipulate the "win" somehow your
campaign in GE would probably be doomed.
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:31 AM
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12. I think she will treated well in the senate, most of our politicians...
are bought and paid for by the elite. So if she continues until the end and destroys Obamas chances at winning, good job by her, the elite will have their second choice in office...McCain!
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Ian_rd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:31 AM
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11. The goal posts can always be moved yet again.
She's not going anywhere. If Obama wins PA, PA will all of a sudden become a "boutique state" - a state that doesn't really matter. And if Hillary wins in PA, even by 1/2%, it will be cast as a HUGE victory and the surprise defeat of the Obama campaign.
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:41 AM
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3. I agree with you on the ARG polls, but PPP and Rasmussen
both have pretty good track records. PPP has a VERY good record I think.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:43 AM
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6. I don't know what the methodology was on this chart - but PPP
is on the bottom. What does Rasmussen show for PA?
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Psst_Im_Not_Here Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:33 AM
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13. I believe it was SurveyUSA who published that chart.
If I remember correctly. Not sure how accurate it is, afterall, should a polling companies chart of how accurate polls are be considered unbiased? Just sayin...:shrug:
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:59 PM
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14. no, it was a user on firedoglake. I'll see if I can ffind it again.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:06 PM
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16. Jane Hamsher - 2/12/08
Which Pollster Has Been Most Accurate?
By: Jane Hamsher Tuesday February 12, 2008 6:29 am


Jane Hamsher
is the founder of firedoglake.com. Her work has also appeared on the Huffington Post, Alternet and The American Prospect. She has appeared on CNN, MSNBC and PBS and is the author of the best selling book Killer Instinct. She has produced such films Natural Born Killers and Permanent Midnight and currently lives in Falls Church, Virginia.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:41 AM
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4. The agony of defeat!
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:44 AM
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7. love that poster !
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JackintheGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:21 AM
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8. PPP shows Obama in the lead (+2), 2 April
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stratomagi Donating Member (811 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:28 AM
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9. Look I'm an Obama supporter and all
but ARG could poll people on what color grass is and still get it wrong!
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:30 AM
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10. If Hillary crashes in PA
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 09:30 AM by Fighting Irish
It's over. Fini. Done.

Pennsylvania is Clinton's Waterloo. Or Giuliani's Florida.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:01 PM
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15. It's over, yes, to normal sane good-political sportsmen. To HRC, not so much. nt
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