On quoting Well-worn Conservative Nutjob Conspiracy Theories on DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND...

[Bicoastal]

...if you don't hesitate to use them to smear OUR candidate, doesn't that open the floodgates to use the same sources against YOURS?

Let's grow up a little, shall we? We're playing right into their hands...

[TooBigaTent]

1. Do you honestly think that the pukes will not use lies and any other shit they can

think of against our nominee?

Playing fair by rules has served us so well in the past, hasn't it? It is open warfare and the more that the Democratic Party understands that, the better we will do.

[Bicoastal]

2. Bushwah. I reject that idea outright. Why, you might ask?

Because this is EXACTLY what they WANT us to do. They WANT us to hate the other candidate so much we actually BELIEVE in some of the nonsense that has been posted here--and unfortunately, many already are quite prepared to believe the worst about whom they consider to be "the enemy."

Those who willingly and knowingly repeat lies told by well-known and compulsive liars are NOT helping us.

[Ohio Joe]

25. You are correct, well said. - nt

[anonymous171]

3. Well, they also had the money. That's huge.

[Garbo 2004]

4. That's not the point. And waging that kind of "warfare" against other Dems is not supposed to be

welcome on DU.

From the DU sicussion Forum Rules:

Constructive criticism of Democrats or the Democratic Party is permitted. When doing so, please keep in mind that most of our members come to this website in order to get a break from the constant attacks in the media against our candidates and our values. Highly inflammatory or divisive attacks that echo the tone or substance of our political opponents are not welcome here.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules_detailed.html

[crankychatter]

5. I'm chuckling, sorry

"obama linked to terrorists" is constructive criticism?

but clinton's hawkish voting record is bashing...

;--P

[Auntie Bush]

10. If Skinner had followed that rule...this place wouldn't be the cesspool it has become.

It's a place I'd never tell a friend to visit. It's embarrassing Democrats talk to one another so rudely. Is isn't any better than that FR.

[MethuenProgressive]

17. Garbo, several months ago I had a thread pulled because I called Edwards a liar.

I was told we aren't allowed to say bad things like that about other Democrats.
WTF, eh?

[anigbrowl]

9. Even calling them pukes is a bad idea

Do you like it when Republicans call our side 'dimocrats'? No? Then act like grownups instead of lefty Republicans. I don't like authoritarians of the right OR left.

[Pathwalker]

22. Repuke means someone who regurgitates right-wing

talking points, so it should STAY, especially when you consider the context of this thread.

[TooBigaTent]

31. For the record, I have never repeated a RW slam against either HC or BO -

because they are sensationalistic attacks that only serve to give ammo to our enemies in the GOP. They seem to come from each camp that is so focused on winning for their candidate that they have trashed the party and real liberals in their obsession for victory.

There are more important criticisms that should be addressed. From my admittedly minority perspective, neither HC nor BO are in any way liberal enough to make any real difference in the way this country is governed. They are both bowing toward the same corporate and militaristic powers that have fucked things up so badly.

Neither supports holding the junta accountable for their crimes by investigating the misdeeds of the last seven years, forget about impeachment.

Neither supports a true, universal health care plan.

Neither supports an immediate withdrawal from the middle east (and this means support for the major impediment to peace - Israel).

Neither has stood with the few true progressive voices that manage to bleed through the regressive media.

Instead of focusing on issues such as these, the Obama-ites harp on sniper fire and the Clinton-istas attack a preacher who is saying things that I thought liberals would support, i.e., pointing out the failures of America. Meanwhile, the republicks are sitting back, raising money, collecting soundbites for the fall, and keeping their Doleishly-weak candidate safe from scrutiny.

Between HCers who will not vote for Obama and BOers who will not vote for Clinton and liberals who are fed up with the DLC-controlled party powers, there are a hell of a lot of votes that should have been safely in our column but are instead, very questionable for November.

[sudopod]

37. Senator Obama disagrees.

That's why I'm going to work my ass off for him.

[Auntie Bush]

6. I've been saying that for months

As soon as Obama got going and people picked sides...the trash right wing talking points were taken out of the cesspool...and flung at Hillary without even scraping off the residue. They stunk from the very beginning! And now they want us to forgive them an give their candidate a vote! What nerve!

[FrenchieCat]

7. You realize that what you are saying doesn't make sense......

doncha? :shrug:

[crankychatter]

8. you are aptly named

the GOP is accepting registrations

[QC]

11. Maybe you can pick her up an application next time you're at GOP headquarters

getting the current talking points.

[Bicoastal]

12. We're not the ones who were convinced Obama couldn't beat McCain because he was "too liberal."

Fellow with a "T" at the beginning of his name has been posting that and most of the RW talking points here recenty.

[Marrah_G]

24. Using RW talking points on either side is wrong wrong wrong

[MethuenProgressive]

14. Cranky, it's pronounced "Ant-y" as in Anti-Bush.

You're welcome.

[crankychatter]

30. too late to edit... thank you

but if you're staying home in november MA

you might as well be voting for mccain

[Marrah_G]

23. Says the one who has been here a month about the one who has been here 5 years.

Check the rules.

[mckeown1128]

13. Umm. when was the last time that...

Hillary was called a terrorist on DU???

[MethuenProgressive]

16. Yesterday. You people had a thread "connecting" her to Columbian terrorists.

See the Greatest page.

[mckeown1128]

21. I don't feel like looking for it....

I am sure thought that it probably didn't come from right wing trash.

[MethuenProgressive]

26. "It's OK if Obama Followers Do IT!" ...Wright?

:shrug:

[mckeown1128]

32. Hey why don't you post a link to the article calling Hillary

a terrorist and then I will get into this with you.

[merh]

18. oh and none of the trash RW talking points were used against

Obama - try to get some balance.

[Auntie Bush]

20. Who the hell started all the trash RW talking points. Obamites!

It's/Karma just coming around to bite them in the back and now they don't like it.

[redqueen]

27. Can you prove that?

Let's see a link to the FIRST EVAR use of a RW talking point against one of the candidates... it was probably sometime last summer or fall.

Thanks for diggin that up!

[Forkboy]

38. I remember two posters in particular using them last Spring.

Both Hillary supporters. David Brooks, Krauthammer, American Thinker...they were all used long before Obama was even being taken seriously.

[redqueen]

42. Yeah... back when Hill was still *inevitable* and would have it wrapped up by 2/5.

Ugh.

[Whisp]

28. yes, it all started with that shuckin' jivin' coke using muslim that Hillary is.

:puke:

[Auntie Bush]

33. It started long before that shuckin stuff started.

It started many months ago. If you have foggy memories I can't help you.

[Marrah_G]

34. Check your PMs please Auntie :)

[Whisp]

35. some links, please?

I wasn't paying as much attention months ago as i am now, so if you can provide me a good source on whatever points you are making, would be appreciated.

[Whisp]

36. Please help my foggy memory with links, or shut up.

or could yours be the same source as the bogus story that Obama is stealing Clinton delegates - just a few yappers saying this with no sources whatsoever.

yep, thot so.

[merh]

29. I don't agree with you.

I also don't call all the folks supporting Hillary, Hilliarites or any other cutesy name or name intended to inflame or reflect a cult.

Oh, and as John Edwards pointed out in Oct/Dec of last year, it was hillary that began to go negative against her opponents.

[Auntie Bush]

39. Hmmmm, Do you think that statement might have been a little bias?

seems I remember the guys all ganging up on the lady...don't you remember?
It was in all the media...where were you during th debates?

[merh]

43. Now see, that isn't how it works.

Guys ganging up on the lady is definitely not a feminist statement. She isn't a lady - she is a candidate, she damn well can dish it out she better be able to take it.

Even Bill said that politics is a contact sport like football, you have be willing to be tackled or you need to get out of the game.

Elizabeth Edwards said it best>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzRQxxldBvk

The nastiness has been by supporters on both sides, Hillary's folks have not been pure and lately the use of the RWblogs and sources has gotten out of hand. To say that Obama started it or his supporters started it is just being immature - try to keep some balance - neither side is perfect.

[Auntie Bush]

44. But one side is more immature than the other!

[merh]

45. I guess you just proved that.

:crazy:

:rofl:

[LittleClarkie]

46. Both sides

Both sides are guilty.

But don't worry. Obama will wash away their sins.

[Auntie Bush]

47. Yes, both side are guilty now...but who started it?

It really hit a low road when a few Obama supporters brought up Monica and all the details and used that as a reason not to vote for her. That was a low blow and there were no nasty Obama comments before that. In fact I spent my time here on DU just trying to defend her from all the crap flung her way. Eventually Hillary supporters started fighting back...but they started it and are responsible that this primary has turned into such a hate fest. So yes, both sides are now guilty but...................

[MethuenProgressive]

15. It'd be great if the Obama followers would stop that stuff.

But it's worked so well so far, y'know?

[Forkboy]

40. You have a few on your team you might want to rein in before pointing fingers.

One has used in the last few weeks alone WorldNetDaily via Cliff Kincaid, Mary Matalin, a site that calls Democrats "Dumocrats", etc.

And funny, I never see you in those threads complaining about those. Go figure.

[rodeodance]

19. REC

[Forkboy]

41. Good to see you rec a non Newsmax or Hannity thread.