Who is most likely planning to attack or invade Iran when they become President?

[onehandle]

[HereSince1628]

1. D.I.C.K.C.H.E.N.E.Y.

[On the Road]

2. Who on Earth is Voting for Clinton Over McCain?

That man is an invasion waiting to happen.

[1620rock]

3. trolls.

[bunnies]

4. McCain, of course. Odd question. nt

[onehandle]

8. You would think so, but look at the results. nt

[jobycom]

5. I don't think any of them are stupid enough on their own. But here's my fear.

When LBJ became president, he wanted to get the troops out of Viet Nam. We know this from released tapes and documents of cabinet meetings and other records that weren't public at the time. But LBJ's advisors all wanted us to escalate our presence there, and they convinced him that JFK was going to do it ( ahighly debatable point, since JFK told different people opposite stories in private), and that if we didn't escalate, the Rooskies would be over here blablabla... same argument every aggressor uses.

LBJ had so little foreign policy experience that he let these advisers convince him to do it. They convinced him that a small time politician educated at a teaching college in central Texas did not know enough to challenge these leading foreign policy experts with military experience and top ivy league training.

McCain and Clinton both have more experience, but that doesn't mean they'll be better than Obama at avoiding such pressures. McCain has too many alliances with the warmongers, and Clinton will be Clinton (just because she's my top choice doesn't mean I don't see her flaws). All three are in danger of being pushed into a war, more than wanting one themselves.

Our real enemy is the Military Industrial Complex, as a man of the other party who's wisdom on the matter is becoming increasingly apparent once said. If they want an invasion, they've got the resources to make it happen, or at least make it dangerously close. Even if our president, whichever wins, is opposed to a war, the MIC can go straight to the people and make them force Congress into one.

Or worse. They tried to force the first Clinton into invading Iraq and Afghanistan in 98, and he thwarted them. So put Bush/Cheney in office, by smearing our candidate and then flat-out stealing the election, then using 9-11 to justify all that they wanted to do. They got what they wanted, all of it.

If they want Iran, we'll be hit from so many different angles we won't recognize it until it's over. We saw some of this already--the attempts to make Iran even more radical than they really are, for instance, or the "Gulf of Tonkin" type incident they tried to create.

I don't think they really want to invade Iran yet. I think they just want Iran afraid that we will, so that Iran will give in more easily. And they want Americans afraid of Iran, so that we will want more military spending, and more security at the expense of more personal liberty. Iran is bigger than Iraq, wealthier than Iraq, and unlike Iraq has a genuine military to fight back with. And, the rest of the world won't watch in silence this time, unless something else big happens.

But that's just a guess. And all their tactics make it easier for them to pull our strings when they are ready. And whichever candidate is elected will have to be fully aware of what they can do. That's one reason I'm for Clinton, and it's exactly why I think the Republicans are pushing Obama. But again, that's just the way I see it, and everyone else has to form their own opinions. But we should all be aware that this isn't just a matter of one person and what they want or don't want. A president fights many enemies, and most of those enemies pretend to be friends. Some even believe they are.

[crankychatter]

6. best poll

k/r

[onehandle]

7. The two acceptable answers are...

Senator McCain or (to a much lesser degree) none of the above.

Any other answer is a result of dishonesty, partisanship, or just plain stupidity.

Or all of the above.