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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:16 PM
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Holding Hillary Clinton Accountable in Missoula, Montana



About 1,500 supporters were on their feet in Northstar-Neptune Aviation's hangar to welcome Clinton. She was campaigning in Montana on the heels of her husband, former President Bill Clinton - he traveled across the Big Sky State early last week - and her Democratic competitor, Barack Obama, who staged a full-house rally at the Adams Center on Saturday.

Kids ran around the back of the slurry bomber hangar. Audience members sat about 10 feet from the senator. Clinton spoke for about 45 minutes, then fielded questions from the audience. When the microphone failed, people just shouted out.

She spoke alongside a P2V slurry bomber outfitted by Neptune for fighting wildfires, hitting on issues such as health care, alternative energy, the home-foreclosure crisis, middle-class tax breaks, education, foreign relations and others. She took questions from audience members about the war in Iraq, immigration and social services.

Mike East, 58, of Missoula, waited patiently but eagerly for Clinton to arrive.

In 1996, during Bill Clinton's presidency, East - who has epilepsy - worked a part-time job at McDonald's but had no health insurance. He wrote Hillary Clinton, who was as passionate about the subject then as now, about some of the obstacles to affordable insurance coverage.

"She wrote back," he said. "I've been a Hillary fan ever since."




Sen. Hillary Clinton told supporters she is a “fighter for America” and described the United States as a “can-do” nation during an hourlong town hall meeting Sunday at Neptune Aviation near the Missoula International Airport.

“I believe that America is worth fighting for,” she told the crowd of more than 2,000 people.

Clinton also told the audience that the United States needs a president “who we can hold accountable.”

At Sunday’s town hall meeting, Clinton touched on many of the themes in her Saturday speech, including the need for an investment in clean energy, an end to the No Child Left Behind program and a reciprocal and ac-countable trade agreement, the Missoulian reported.



Sen. Clinton offered some humor when speaking about how long it takes her to get ready compared to her opponents. Speaking about the choice voters have to make in this election, she said, "You can vote for a person based on anything. You don’t like this issue, you don’t like that issue, you don’t like the way look or how they do their hair, you vote for or against somebody on any basis." (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/04/clinton-says-we.html)

On an even lighter note, Clinton paused and thanked someone in the crowd who complimented her hair. "Thank you I appreciate that, it was done by somebody here in Missoula," Clinton said,"That’s another thing, do you realize how much longer it takes me to get ready than my two opponents. I think I should get points for working as hard as I do for spending so much time getting ready, anyway, back to hiring a president," Clinton continued, as she got back on track and finished her closing argument.



Clinton has a hairdresser and a makeup artist who join her on some trips. But her style mostly goes unmentioned, just part of what she does before the traveling press gets a glimpse of her. Her new comment on the role her hair plays in her life -- a topic she addressed in a 2001 Yale commencement address, when she warned graduating students, "Pay attention to your hair, because everyone else will" -- echoed what Michael Kinsley wrote in an op-ed published in The Washington Post in late March, when he estimated that the male candidates get a half hour more sleep each night, thanks to their easier beauty routines. That works out to an extra two weeks of campaigning or sleeping over the course of a year-and-a-half campaign with 14-hour days and six-day work weeks. (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/04/06/clinton_muses_about_the_hairpr.html)




Instead of broadly touching on all her campaign platforms, Sen. Hillary Clinton used her Missoula public appearance to focus on energy policy, fiscal responsibility and higher education.

"We are going to stand up and say we are on a path to energy independence," Clinton said to a round of applause during her Missoula appearance Sunday morning inside an airplane hangar.

During her speech, she talked about developing wind energy, bio fuels and clean coal technology, mentioning the work Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer has done with clean coal. She noted plans to work with the automobile industry to put cars that get as much as 100 miles per gallon of gasoline on the fast track, and to take tax subsidies away from oil companies.

Oil has gone from about $20 per barrel seven years ago to $112 now, Clinton said.

"The world changed, and frankly people haven't changed with it," she said.




She also spoke to the students in the crowd, saying she would make college affordable by making more direct aid such as PELL grants available to students, offering tuition money for students that did National Service for two years and starting a loan forgiveness program for students that worked in a public service position that contributed to society.

And Clinton got the loudest cheers for her plan to end the FAFSA form that college students must fill every year for federal aid. She said that her staff had tried to calculate the millions of hours parents and students spend filling the form out when, in the end, the government may just end up saying that the student really doesn’t qualify for any aid.



The slurry bomber hangar reverberated with deafening whistles and applause when Clinton lingered on the topic of taxes. Under the existing tax code, she said, America's most wealthy citizens thrive and the middle class suffers.

“I want an economy that works for everyone, not just the wealthy and well-connected,” Clinton said. “They had a president for the last seven years.

“I want to take a hard look at this tax code, which I think is unfair, and frankly, unpatriotic. What sense does it make for the United States tax code to give any business any benefit with your tax dollars to move jobs out of Montana to some foreign country? How can it be fair when we have a Wall Street money manager making $50 million a year pay a lower percentage in income taxes than the teacher and truck driver right here in Missoula who are making $50,000 a year?”

Shouting to be heard over the crowd's enthusiastic endorsement, Clinton said: “Let's expire the tax code.”

“People ask me all the time, ‘Are you going to let George Bush's tax codes expire?' Well, for the people making over $250,00 a year, I will,” Clinton said, and further elaborated: “I want to keep all the middle-class tax cuts.”

Said Clinton, “I want you to look at what I have already done, and I want you to look at what I say I will do . . . I want you to hold me accountable.”

It's time to restore trust between Americans and their government, Clinton said. “When the speech is over, the cameras are gone and the lights are turned off, we have to have a president who you can hold accountable for what we bill you.”





Watch video coverage of Hillary Clinton's Missoula appearance.
http://videos.missoulian.com/p/video?id=1809959

Hillary Clinton’s Plan to Promote Energy Security in Montana
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=6947

Large pics by Emily Haas at New West
http://www.newwest.net/gallery/
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SaveOurDemocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:25 PM
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1. Thanks, bigtree! k&r

:kick:

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:27 PM
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2. I may not always comment...
but I always rec your threads.

You might actually prefer my not posting anyway, so... :P
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:34 PM
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4. I love you (Obama) folks
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 02:37 PM by bigtree
. . . looking in. Love it.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:36 PM
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5. Well I know if you posted it...
then it's well worth a look at least. :)
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here_is_to_hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 07:07 PM
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15. It gets better bigtree...
You were once an inhabitant of a certain 'list' of mine a bit of time back...no longer. You have posted some outstanding info on both candidates lately, along with great pics...
Luv ya!:hi: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:38 PM
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16. I'm a political fool
but, this effort keeps me out of the gutter.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:28 PM
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3. very nice thank you
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:44 PM
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6. like that bottom photo lots
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:14 PM
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17. she took some really flattering shots
nice gallery at the link

http://www.newwest.net/gallery

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Umbram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:25 PM
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36. It is an interesting photo
What do you suppose is framing her? Looks like a sign at the top - and people or arms or something on the sides?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:45 PM
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7. k and r
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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:52 PM
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8. always enjoy these...
and Hillary looks a LOT like my mom in these pics, if she wore glasses.
And my ma is a looker too, :D
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:49 PM
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18. thanks for looking in
It's amazing how many looks she's had over the years. She just glows with joy in this campaign. It really looks good on her.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:09 PM
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9. Great thread. As usual
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:37 AM
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20. thanks, tisha
:kick:
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:14 PM
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10. K&R
Thanks. Great Post.

:kick:
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:19 PM
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11. Really nice post BigTree!
I always love your posts as you show class, and a good passion for your candidate! :yourock:
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:21 PM
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12. Lovely as always...
Thanks!
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:51 PM
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13. Another great one!
Thanks bigtree.


“I want to take a hard look at this tax code, which I think is unfair, and frankly, unpatriotic. What sense does it make for the United States tax code to give any business any benefit with your tax dollars to move jobs out of Montana to some foreign country? love it!

big K&R!!



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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:39 PM
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19. she's going to be a great foil
to McCain's blather about the economy.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:56 PM
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14. Bigtree, do you have a DU Journal?
You're doing such wonderful work, it would be great if more people could read it.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 09:02 AM
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24. ah, I only made a home for the Clinton threads
. . . but not here. Here: http://www.returningsoldiers.us/

(I'll collect the Obama posts and put them there IF he wins the nomination ;) )
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:21 AM
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21. kick
:kick:
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shugah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:30 AM
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22. didn't there used to a plan to forgive student loans
for a certain time in public service? it seems like there was, and it disappeared (under reagan would be my guess). but, it's a good idea in any event :-)

k&r - thanks for the thread bigtree
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:59 AM
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23. good question
I couldn't find that
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 09:26 AM
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27. a lot of those Fed funds have dried up or are very low. I know Nursing
has had matching funds for a several decades.

now they depend on local communites to do this.

i do not know the exact status of this program right now

But Teacher Ed programs also have them (and Medicine)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 09:05 AM
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25. "an end to the No Child Left Behind program"--yes, she has said this for months now.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 09:14 AM
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26. It's been her biggest applause line
The level of enthusiasm on the trail from supporters to scrap NCLB surprised me, even though I strongly agree with her on that, myself.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:14 AM
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29. its not surprizing- I am in Teacher Education area--its coming from all
I know.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:40 AM
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31. can you give me an idea of where the Act is hurting where you work?
I think the military recruitment provisions are a crime. The effects of the rest of the act I've only gotten second-hand, through media accounts.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 11:15 AM
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32. one point--All states have

a certain number of hours that student teachers need to have--in classroom
instuction in order to be in good standing--be be certified by the state
and professional organizations.

As more and more pressure is put on testing--student teachers are asked (and to keep good relations with schools) to menter extra hours in addition to
their student teaching hours.

Mentoring is fine --up to a point.

And many of the schools have cut back on classes such as
French, music, the arts.

Student teachers are choosing other speciality areas by default.--or
have left the program.




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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 03:43 PM
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33. done
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:14 PM
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34. that's got to be aggravating
this Act assumes the teachers are the problem, not the government's own lack of support for them and the very important job y'all do. (My wife was a teacher's aide with special needs kids, and my mother a teacher for 40 years, half of that as an everyday volunteer)
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:19 PM
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35. it is extremely aggravating. NCLB was a failure in TX, cant believe it got adopted nationally.
you should have seen the numbers they doctored to make it look passable...


shameful
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:31 PM
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38. That is part of the problem--energy and time spent to 'get around' NCLB--
and the Bush adm has granted so many waivers--just to make it look good
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:40 PM
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40. schools can get along anymore without volunteers they are so important. Say
thank you to your mom.

I supervised my students last semester--as tutors.

So so so many wonderful volunteers--coming from all walks of life.
they want to make schools work--but something is fundamentally wrong with
the Fed approach!!
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Mother Of Four Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 09:56 AM
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28. Just want to say---
I really love reading your posts Bigtree, upbeat and positive support for your candidate. We may support different candidates, but these kinds of posts make me smile.

We need more of them :)

I'm glad she had a good day.

Kudos to you, as another said "A real class act" :hi:
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PylesMalfunction Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:19 AM
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30. Thanks bigtree!
I love your posts. People like you make our party great. :)
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:31 PM
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37. Another Obama supporter that's a bigtree fan here.
I really appreciate your work - you always keep the reporting real and your photos are fantastic!

Another job well done - but I bet you knew that huh?
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Umbram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:34 PM
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39. Keep up the good work. K&R.
Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 07:41 PM by Umbram
I've gotten so tired of the candidates' supporters (including myself) that I sometimes forget how good our two candidates are.

Your OPs have been helping reverse that.

On Edit: OK, I lied - the 24 hour mark passed and I can't rec. I tried...
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:43 PM
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41. Jesus!
How did they fit 1500 people in a airplane hangar?
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