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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:40 PM
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Obama Didn't Want My Money

Daily Kos
Obama Didn't Want My Money
by Borell
Mon Apr 07, 2008 at 10:12:52 AM PDT

I just had the strangest experience. A presidential candidate gave me back my donation, told me would not accept it because of what I do for a living, and it left me more committeed to the candidate and conviced that he is the person that must be the next president.

I went to the mailbox and found a letter from the Obama Campaign. Enclosed was a check for $100, the return of my contribution from earlier this month along with a letter explaining why it would not be accepted.

You see, I am a registered lobbyist for a non-profit organziation. We are a non-partisan, non-political membership organziation, we do not have a political action committee and strictly observe a policy of non-particpation in any event that even remotely appears political. I serve as their legislative rep, trying to ensure that expertise of our membership is heard by public officials on issues related to their area of expertise (public safety).

I guess given the fact that I was not a corporate/industry lobbyist, I never really considered that Obama's no-lobbyist money ban would apply to me, but it did! The letter thanked me for my interest in the campaign, but stated flately that my donation was not acceptable.

It's not often you get told that you are persona non grata and end up praising the person who exiled you. But that what I am doing. Obama actions are living up to his words. Through the actions of his campaign he is demonstrating that his values are real and his commitment is certain.

Another aspect that is quite impressive to me is that the Obama campaign has a mechnism set up to check each donation, even one as small as mine, against the lobbyist database, and then return it.

If I ever doubted the sincerity of the Obama Campaign, this action removed any questions.

I know my donation is not going to make a difference one way or another, and I hope that I am not the type of "corrupt lobbyist" that has infested washington.

Obama, and his campaign, are committed to bringing about change. They are doing this in both large and small steps. Refusing my money is a small step, but it spoke volumes to me. It showed me Obama means what he says and backs it up with action. It shows me that no detail is to small and that his organization is top notch. It strengthened my commitment to see him elected President.

I guess I just can't use my money to do it:).

p.s.: As a side note, last year my spouse had set up automatic monthly payments to Hillary (nothing big $10/month) but after switching to Obama, had to battle with the Clinton campaign to cancel the automatic payment. I find it ironic that one campaign won't take my money, the other won't give it back!

Updated to add: I though we had finally stopped the payments to the Clinton Campaign, but after checking with my spouse, it turns out they are still taking the payments 3-4 months after we asked them to stop.


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http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4/7/124812/3285/604/491642
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:41 PM
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1. says it all
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N4457S Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:45 AM
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99. Yes...
...it says it all. Sort of.

He makes you feel good. Great, if it mattered but it doesn't.

But can he win two out of three among Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida?

If he can't, we get McCain.

Period.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:41 PM
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2. K&R!
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:43 PM
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3. Way cool
K&R

:kick:
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:44 PM
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4. Now this is the funniest thing I have read, ever on DU.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:35 PM
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68. why funny?
:shrug:
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weezie1317 Donating Member (480 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:44 PM
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5. Wow! I respect Obama all the more now.
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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:46 PM
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6. the contrast could not be clearer, you should contact the news media with that story.
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 02:48 PM by virtualobserver
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:52 PM
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14. Yes he should.......
That's a very telling story!
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:46 PM
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7. K&R Obama is being true to his word and THAT is what will win in the GE.
McCain has NOTHING on Obama!

Gobama!!
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N4457S Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:47 AM
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100. No...
Edited on Tue Apr-08-08 10:49 AM by N4457S
...what will win the election is carrying two out of three states among Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida - all of which are loaded with old people.

That will win the election. Nothing else.

Someone told me Obama came out against gun rights the other day. If it's true and it's documented, the Republicans will barbeque him with it this Fall. Gore failed to carry about five states down there because of the NRA and if he had carried them, he wouldn't have needed Florida.
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Barb in Atl Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 11:52 AM
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103. I think you're missing the big picture...
1. 50 State Strategy: Dean started it, Obama is following it and there have been democratic candidates elected in so-called red states. There's been a great deal of democratic party activity in theses states. Don't write them off.

2. Ohio, Pennsylvania & Florida: After all the bru-ha-ha is done, I'm hoping that democrats will see the obvious choice between Obama and McCain. Older folks have just as big a stake in trying to get the country on track as anyone else. Maybe more since they can't get their grown kids (and spouse and kids) out of their home due to foreclosure.

3. The republicans are going to try and barbecue Obama ANYWAY whether he called for tighter gun controls or showed up at a rally shooting old men in the face (a la Cheney).

There has to be a new paradigm. We can no longer focus on the same states to win. It's about the 50 state strategy. Who knows how truly blue they are if no one even campaigns there? In that regard, I'm grateful for the long primary. When it's done, far more people can say that they saw, heard, participated in the process.

It's not all about Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida anymore.
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N4457S Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:32 PM
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107. Okay, Fine...
Edited on Tue Apr-08-08 01:42 PM by N4457S
...go ahead and try it. It's a free country, mostly.

But when it comes down to Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida for the umpteenth time and Obama comes up short because the neanderthals who run Columbus and Harrisburg and Tallahassee won't vote for him, I'm gonna be back here saying I told you so.

How do you operate a fifty state campaign with Obama running his mouth about gun control when he knows perfectly well that the gun issue cost Gore the presidency in 2000? Anyone with a calculator in their hand knows Gore wouldn't have needed Florida if he had carried Arkansas, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia and New Hampshire. Why didn't he carry those states? Because he ran his goddamn mouth about guns.

Pop! There goes another liberal into the trash bin of American political history. Obama will be next.

High ranking Democratic politicians always think it's a new paradigm and it never is. Donna Brazile said it was a new paradigm in 1988 with Dukakis. I was there. I remember.

Mondale picked Ferraro in 1984 as a VP, the Republicans put her through hell and almost ruined her marriage AND THEN they lost 49 states! I was around for that, too.

They said the same thing with McGovern in 1972 and he lost 49 states. Kerry was a war hero and looked good on paper but when he got on stage, he was stiff as a board and Bush blew his head off.

It's always the same and that's because of the inherently disorganized nature of the party itself. Political science people call it the circular shooting gallery and that's exactly what it is. That's why the party loses most of the time other than in places such as California, New York and New England. These are all states with above average percentages of unionization among the population...but the fastest growing states are those with Right To Work laws. If you have to have unions in order to have an effective Democratic power base in a state, then the party is in very serious trouble. Howard Dean knows that. He has to.

You should see the puff piece Newsweek did on McCain. I was really surprised, with Newsweek being owned by the Washington Post. Do they know something we don't know?

Let me show you something:

http://presidentelect.org/e2004.html

http://presidentelect.org/e2000.html

Look at all that southern power. Do you really, truly believe those people are going to be simply denied?
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Barb in Atl Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:45 AM
Response to Reply #107
120. (sigh)
All over the place to say, simply, you don't think Obama will win.

Okey doke.

I just happen to disagree.
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VenusRising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:49 PM
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8. K&R
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:50 PM
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9. Its tragic when
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 02:51 PM by BlueIdaho
a politician doing the right thing is amazingly newsworthy to us all - it tells us how far we have strayed from a real democracy...

I AM amazed, astounded, and even more committed to seeing Obama make it to the White House.

edit - spelnk
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ElboRuum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 03:06 PM
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113. In a way, you are right.
But in another, you might want to take a second look.

True that it IS, in fact, tragic that a politician doing the right thing is newsworthy. But there is a biting, yet very real, pragmatic, and necessary cynicism to living in a country where politics is so rife with politicians, not necessarily doing the wrong thing for its own sake or because they don't know what the right thing is, but doing the wrong thing for political expedience or personal or professional gain.

What's truly extraordinary is that, finally, there is a politician who finally understands what WE'VE known all along: that to reasoned, sensible, and forthright people, a reasoned, sensible, and forthright politician is incipiently appealing. Doing the right thing is BETTER than the political expedient to our way of thinking and has incalculable political cachet miles beyond any obfuscation or fearmongering. There seems to be some ethos in Washington which suggests an osmotic membrane between they, the politicians, and the reality of governance in this country which continues this insularism of antiquated ideas. The things that only reality can teach only seem to slowly filter across.

One of the things that seem to have made it to Obama's ears is that we are tired of politicians who feel they need to be evasive when they should be honest, who feel that we are little infants who just don't get the big bad world, who feel we are incapable of understanding things on more than just a superficial level, and who, for these reasons, believe that the only way to get elected is to tell us what we supposedly want to hear so that we like them and vote for them.

That presumption of impotent weakness is a symptom of this insularity. This presumption is dead wrong, and Obama has realized what others refuse to acknowledge.

It is the politician who does not represent the desires of the voters with a great fidelity who is weak, who must evade and obfuscate the truth, who must run from the challenge of opponents. The politician who does represent our desires BORROWS OUR STRENGTH, which appears nearly infinite when measured against the strength of the one who must wheel and deal for votes he/she has not earned.

Moreover, Obama has understood the one thing every politician should truly understand. A politician who does his/her job with great fidelity to the wishes of those who have put them office NEVER has to fight nearly as hard to retain this loyalty. In other words, just do your job as you've been asked and you'll never have to waste time explaining why you didn't.

So maybe it is tragic that we are agog at this display of... what was it called again?... um... good character, I believe? Honestly it has been THAT long since I've seen it that I nearly forgot what it is. But, I tell you, it sure is welcome.
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:50 PM
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10. Classy.
On the part of the Obama campaign. That other campaign - not so much. :(
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JayFredMuggs Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:50 PM
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11. Wonderful Thread!
I wonder what the Hillary supporters will have to say.......................hmmmmm don't see any posts from them yet.

Be ready for the insults.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:51 PM
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12. nice personal account.... does anyone have any shred of proof that this is actually true?
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:51 PM
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13. The person is obviously an Obama plant.
:rofl:
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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:52 PM
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16. classy response
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:56 PM
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19. i was actually curious. personal stories are great, but it doesnt mean they are inherently true?
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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:00 PM
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23. If I had posted my personal experience, I would have found your post offensive
I think that you need a reason to question someone's truthfulness.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 03:57 AM
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88. some of us know propaganda when we see it
from years of experience with the corporate media
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:27 AM
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92. well,here's my personal story -- The obama campaign refused my money as well
Months ago I got a call from the Obama campaign. I mentioned that I was a registered lobbyist. They thanked me for mentioning it and said that they didn't realize that and that they couldn't accept my money. (BTW, for anyone thinking I'm just making this up, you can check the archives -- I posted about this even before I decided I was switching to Obama and did so in posts that were critical, not supportive, of Obama for his strict no lobbyist contribution)
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 02:05 PM
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111. "assume propaganda" is more accurate, since you have no evidence this is propaganda.
Not every story you don't like is propaganda.

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countingbluecars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:57 PM
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20. Like you provided
"any shred of proof" in your flamebait thread this morning?!?
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:59 PM
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21. everything in there is a verifiable fact except where explicitly stated that it was my opinion
you are more than welcome to prove me wrong on any point. I would actually like you to.

Feel free to send me a PM with a rebuttal or proof that any one of my FACTS was untrue.
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countingbluecars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:17 PM
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27. No thanks.
It was locked for a reason.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 05:07 AM
Response to Reply #21
90. Give me a fucking break!
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:08 PM
Response to Reply #12
24. Daily Kos is a well respected progressive blogger
He has been around since the 2000 invasion and is considered one of the best. Just like anything you read, the only evidence is the credibility of the person writing it. Its fine to question, in fact, its healthy. But in this case, it does show some newness on your part.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:13 PM
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25. You forgot the word "partisan" in the description
KOS is an Obama supporter, and therefore is partisan.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:50 PM
Response to Reply #25
32. i suspect we all are to some degree
Hes never been anything but. Being a progressive automatically makes you partisan.
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dbmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 02:31 AM
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86. Really?
What part of the online Sherlock Holmes course taught you that a story by an Obama contributor about Obama might be partisan?

YOu don't think people were alerted to that possibility by the mere contents of the story?

Its not Markos writing the story though, afaict.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:28 PM
Response to Reply #86
119. Yuo are RIGHT. OMFG!! This is HUGH!!
Just trying to make you feel more at home, pal.

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Ian_rd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 12:04 PM
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105. Translation: If you support Obama, you're a liar
Thanks for the clarification, Cronus. FYI, I believed Hillary's sniper fire story until it was debunked because I found no reason to disbelieve it. Until, of course, eye witnesses and video proved it wrong. Do you have anything to prove the OP wrong?
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:24 PM
Response to Reply #105
117. Your translation skills are lacking
I meant what I said and only what I said, not what you painted on top of it. As for Hillary's sniper fire story, not that it matters one whit, she surely had to duck and was surely rushed aroubnd to avoid potential sniper fire just like anyone visiting a zone with active fighting. To try to hang her with this is like using string instead of rope. It just won't work. Get over it.

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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 02:06 PM
Response to Reply #25
112. I assume that's because he doesn't give time to proven liars like clinton.
A good call, IMHO.

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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:09 PM
Response to Reply #112
116. Obama's NOT a liar???
Excuse me while I laugh up my sleeve... I wouldn't want to offend your naïveté.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:27 PM
Response to Reply #25
118. Well, there's progressive overall, who give equal shift to all out candidates
And then there's partisans who won't. KOS is such a partisan. Not that there's anything wrong with that, it's his page, he can do what he wishes with it, but to call him progressive when he hates Hillary so much is not completely forthcoming.


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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:19 PM
Response to Reply #12
29. Why don't you try it?!! Send him a check for few hundred bucks, photocopy that check . Put your
employer information to be one the known lobbying firm, and see what will happen. If you got your check back, you know Obama is for real. If you didn't you can show everyone what a sleaze bag Obama is.
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JayFredMuggs Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:25 PM
Response to Reply #12
30. This from the person who decided Obama opposed the Iraq war because of his
Muslim base of support, (totally unsupported by the facts and unwilling to give us census figures on Muslims in his area.)
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:38 PM
Response to Reply #30
69. He said that????
:wtf:
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:03 PM
Response to Reply #12
58. The fact that it isn't being told in a HRC stump speech gives it a leg up on credibility
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:45 PM
Response to Reply #12
71. truer than what you said about Rezko being a Muslim
which is false, he is a Syrian born Christian.

perhaps you are unaware of the many Arab Christians in the Middle East? All the Palestinians that I knew and grew up with here near SF are Christian.

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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:52 PM
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72. Any shred of proof that you are a Democrat?
If you can't take anecdotal evidence at face value, I will doubt your entire existence.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 12:06 AM
Response to Reply #12
80. No, because it's bogus.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:25 AM
Response to Reply #12
91. delete - dupe
Edited on Tue Apr-08-08 06:28 AM by onenote
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:39 AM
Response to Reply #12
98. maybe we can find video tape, like bosnia.
:sarcasm:
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 02:04 PM
Response to Reply #12
110. As soon as video proves the poster wasn't dodging sniper fire--
Ooops, never mind.

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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:52 PM
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15. If you still want to help Obama here is what we do.
We buy Obama buttons in bulk by the hundreds and pass them out. It is amazing the people you meet. If we are in the market or on the street and someone remarks about the button we pull two out of our pocket. One for the new friend and one for the new friend to pass along. It is like putting up mini billboards for Obama. The last batch we got were form PoliticalShop.com and have a peace sign for the O in Obama. They are bright and very easy to give away.

Go Obama. Peace, Kim
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:54 PM
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17. Borell could send ME the money and I'LL send it to Obama!
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 02:55 PM by jenmito
:D
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:55 PM
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18. You catch more flies with...
bullshit than HOPE.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #18
22. I'm sorry about that.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:15 PM
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26. .
:kick: and recommended.

This made me smile. :D
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:18 PM
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28. hmmmm... Hillary sounds like AOL
n/t
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jjr5 Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:37 PM
Response to Reply #28
48. hahaha.
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 05:37 PM by jjr5
:rofl: True.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:04 PM
Response to Reply #28
59. Bwa!
Perfect.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:46 PM
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31. K, how do we know this is real? I'm leaning towards it's real because of BO's character displayed...
...so far but why do people like Timmeh try and get away with his contributions still being from PACs etc?

thx
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 12:30 AM
Response to Reply #31
83. It's real because the poster linked to a photo of the letter he received
Check it out, and I think you'll find the story more than credible:

&track=tag_email_clickthrough
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:57 PM
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33. filed under hmmm...
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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:05 PM
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34. Politicians paying lobbyists?
What is this, Soviet Russia? :p
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:13 PM
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35. God, I love that man and what he stands for.
:patriot:
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:13 PM
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36. YOU CAN ALWAYS SEND ANONYMOUS DONATION
IF YOU LOVE THE CANDIDATE.... SEND THE MONEY....

---------------- AND BEING ANONYMOUS HAS THE ADVANTAGE OF PROVING THAT YOU ARE NOT EXPECTING
ANYTHING IN RETURN....

------ISN'T THAT COOL


I KNOW THAT WHEN JOHN "THE REPUBLICAN" MCCAIN GETS HIS $1,000,000 OIL COMPANY DONATIONS
THEY ALSO SLIP IT IN $20 BILLS AND EXPECT NOTHING IN RETURN

AIN'T LIFE GRAND
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:03 PM
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57. No, no you can't
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 12:08 AM
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81. No record of $100 donations. None.
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:17 PM
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37. I am so totally impressed
...it leaves me speechless.

FWIW, you keep doing what you do. Lobbyists are not always the "bad guys." Some make a very positive difference.
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ernestv Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:24 PM
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38. YES HE DOES NOT TAKE $ FROM LOBBYIST...
BUT IT'S OK FOR obama TO TAKE $ FROM THE PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR THE COMPANIES THAT PAY THE LOBBYIST...
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:30 PM
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39. That includes just about everybody who works for Corporate America
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 04:30 PM by high density
Genius. :nuke:

You're a week late for April Fools jokes.
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jjr5 Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:40 PM
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50. Could you phrase that in a clearer way?
I'm not sure what you're talking about.
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ernestv Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 06:43 PM
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55. Instead let these links do my phrasing....
"The campaign received $50,566 from 49 lobbyists, but aides flagged the checks during initial screening and said they will return the money. Still, for hosting events and otherwise raising money, the Obama fundraising team is relying on partners in lobbying firms who are not registered for specific clients, former lobbyists who recently dropped clients and spouses of lobbyists. The strategy allows Obama's team to reach the wealthy clients of lobbying firms while technically complying with his pledge."

The source of the above: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/14/AR2007041401491_3.html
Also:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/32/

And: http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/08/09/pacs_and_lobbyists_aided_obamas_rise/
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ernestv Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:06 PM
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66. But what about this....?
"The campaign received $50,566 from 49 lobbyists, but aides flagged the checks during initial screening and said they will return the money. Still, for hosting events and otherwise raising money, the Obama fundraising team is relying on partners in lobbying firms who are not registered for specific clients, former lobbyists who recently dropped clients and spouses of lobbyists. The strategy allows Obama's team to reach the wealthy clients of lobbying firms while technically complying with his pledge."

The source of the above: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...
Also:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/32 /

And: http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/08/09/p...
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 09:10 AM
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96. Yes it is...
Because I donate to Obama it doesnt mean my company has given me the money to do so. In fact, my company is far more likely to donate to mccain.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:35 PM
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40. He has enough problems with his Rezko / Auichi connections
Obama can't afford to have anyone looking too closely at who his donors are...



Obama bagman is sent to jail over $3.5m payment by British tycoon

An undeclared $3.5 million (£1.8 million) payment from a corrupt Iraqi-British businessman has landed Barack Obama’s former fundraiser behind bars.


The payment, disclosed in court papers, is the first time that Mr Obama’s long-serving bagman Antoin “Tony” Rezko, a Syrian immigrant to the United States, has been linked to Nadhmi Auchi, the Iraqi-born billionaire who is one of Britain’s richest men. The relationship is a potential embarrassment for Mr Obama, who has made his opposition to the Iraq war a central plank of his campaign.


Court papers describe Mr Rezko as a close friend of Mr Auchi. The two are involved in a large Chicago land development together. But it is unclear how long the two men have known each other or whether they were linked before the 2003 Iraq war. Neither side would discuss their relationship.

The Times has, however, discovered state documents in Illinois recording that Fintrade Services, a Panamanian company, lent money to Mr Obama’s fundraiser in May 2005.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article3284825.ece
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jjr5 Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:45 PM
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51. How many people like that have donated to the Clintons?
There are so many. One name: Mark Penn.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:28 PM
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76. Lowered expectations
Folks expect it from her, so it doesn't make as big a splash.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:38 PM
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41. WHAT A GREAT REVELATION!!! Thank you! Greatest Page for you
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:38 PM
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42. Excellent account of the integrity of the Obama campaign, and of the basic dishonesty of the Clinton
one. :thumbsup:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:40 PM
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43. This is one of the biggest differences between the 2 campaigns . Thanks for posting!
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madwivoter Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:52 PM
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44. Obama is definitely running a top-notch campaign :)
K&R!

:kick:
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Utopian Leftist Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:11 PM
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45. Awesome story!
There are so many little things like this that make me proud to be an Obama supporter.
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:15 PM
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46. And this isn't the only one either...
His campaign returns hundreds of donations every day for the same reasons, and has been following the same policy from the beginning.
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:26 PM
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47. Yep, and it just snowed today in Laughlin, nevada.
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:40 PM
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49. Would the Clinton campaign do the same?
When monkeys fly out of my butt.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:06 PM
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60. No, but her next stump speech may feature "an donor" yet to be named
:D
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:45 PM
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52. very refreshing
thank you!
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:50 PM
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53. That's a good thing.
:)

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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 06:13 PM
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54. Remember the story about the woman on Hillary's finance committee who
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 06:20 PM by tblue37
found several thousand dollars worth of unautorized charges on her account from the Hillary campaign ($3400). She couldn't get them to return the money until she went to file a police report. At that point they returned it in a hurry.

Here is a link to the site the woman posted her story on:
http://bluejersey.com/showDiary.do;jsessionid=9813449AE0DED021B8BD56515A85568C?diaryId=7104

Here is an excerpt from a more recent post by the same person about this incident:
An untold number of people have asked me for a LINK to the POLICE REPORT. I cannot provide a link to the entire document which includes personal contact information but I can now provide the following official information:

Police Report Complaint Number: 2007-014875 417/ID THEFT Date: Dec 11, 2007 Time: 18:04 Taken by Detective A O'Brien in Ridgefield, NJ.

That I was forced to file a police complaint against Hillary Clinton Campaign for unauthorized credit card charges and overdraft charges that were not being resolved at all by the finance directors who I emailed and called many times but to no avail...Yes it took filing an official police report on December 11, 07 and then promptly reporting that fact to Ms. Allison Wright Hillary's Compliance Officer at headquarters in Virgina via email and I also cc'ed the finance directors who were formally unresponsive to my pleas to make credit card corrections as I DID NOT WANT to file a formal complaint with VISA against HRC campaign to resolve this now very embarrasing problem! $3, 400 was charged on my Visa by HRC and the charges were NOT Authorized by me.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:08 PM
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63. Thanks for that -- I was just thinking about this incident
Even the mom-n-pop beer shop can figure out the credit card machine without difficulty.

HRC's mack-daddy fundraising team is challenged with things like "amounts" and "cancelling recurring payments"
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 07:08 PM
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56. Thank you SO MUCH for posting this!
:kick: & REC'D!!!
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:07 PM
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61. Her campaign is truly technically challenged
Struggling to figure out the interwebs and now grappling with the difficult concept of recurring payments (and how to stop them...)
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Pavlovs DiOgie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:08 PM
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62. Wow
He means what he says and says what he means. Imagine a president like that, finally!
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:46 PM
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64. K and R There you have it!
What a great post! Thank you!
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mhoran Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:57 PM
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65. Superb
How impressive is this man and his campaign? Fantastic.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:20 PM
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67. thanks for crossposting this. nt
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:44 PM
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70. Wonderful story! rec'd
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:56 PM
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73. Wow!
WOW
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:11 PM
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74. He has his history.
How meaningful is this? “It’s a politically smart position for him to take. It sounds profound,” says Massie Ritsch, communications director for the Center for Responsive Politics. “But in fact neither PACs nor lobbyists give a lot to presidential campaigns. He’s not leaving a whole lot of money on the table by eschewing PACs and lobbyists.” PAC money represents only about one percent of all the money in a presidential race because, Ritsch says, so many people donate that their contributions dwarf PAC money.


Contributions made by the various industry sectors tell the real story in a presidential race. And Opensecrets.org shows that Obama is picking up gobs of money put on the table by these special interests—including those involved in health care, which will surely have a lot riding on the outcome of the election and will expect to be heard after the election is over.

Last August The Boston Globe, in a piece by Scott Helman, took a hard look at Obama’s contributions, noting that “behind Obama’s campaign rhetoric about taking on special interests lies a more complicated truth.” That truth revealed that as a state legislator in Illinois, a U.S. senator, and as a presidential aspirant, Obama had collected hundreds of thousands of dollars from lobbyists and PACs.
http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/obamas_lobbyist_line.php
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Flatulo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:23 PM
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75. How quaint. Integrity.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:34 PM
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77. Integrity *and* sound accounting.
Wow, he's certainly leading us out of the old, into the new.
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trickyguy Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:42 PM
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78. It's so nice to hear from an honest man - that's you. About another honest man - that's Barack.
:toast:

Keep up the good works.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:27 PM
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79. K & R
:kick:
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 12:10 AM
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82. Wow, good post.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 12:50 AM
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:02 AM
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85. K'd-AND-R'd!!!
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 02:58 AM
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87. Very impressive
that a campaign is that honest and that much on top of everything, makes me proud to support him! :thumbsup:
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FOS Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 04:11 AM
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89. Awesome Post
I wanted to Rec it , but I am new to this website and don't have the creds yet.

:-(
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:35 AM
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93. I just rec'd it this morning so let's consider it two half rec's!
and welcome to DU!

:hi:
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FOS Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:27 AM
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94. Great !
Thank you.

:hug:
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:00 PM
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115. you are welcome...
and another kick to a great thread!

:kick:
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:36 AM
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95. It is impressive they were able to catch that, nice first hand account
thanks
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parkeradison Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 09:57 AM
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97. Regarding "didn't want my money"
Wow! That's just about unheard of in politics.
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:54 AM
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101. K*&*R!!! n/t
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Xenocrates Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 11:31 AM
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102. Re: Your Money
(First Post!)

That's very impressive! Its also an example of how an Obama Adminstration would handle policies to the small amounts of tax payer dollars.

Also, you can put a stop-payment at your bank to prevent anyone from drawing funds from your account without your permission. :)
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Ian_rd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 11:53 AM
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104. K&R! C'mon, let's break 200 with this one!
BTW, try to make some noise with the issue of the automatic payments in the press. This might be happening to other people.
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JFN1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:25 PM
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106. Those of you who think this story is false
I suggest putting a call into the lady who signed the letter - I'll bet she can confirm her own signature.

And, on a personal note, I think it is very telling about those who believe this is a false story - I think it demonstrates EXACTLY what Hillary is giving you...and given the number of LIES Hillary has told in this campaign, I suppose it's not surprising you expect that sort of behavior from everyone else...
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 02:01 PM
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108. K&R. (nt)
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 02:03 PM
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109. Wow. That IS impressive.
Nicely done, Mr. (soon-to-be) President!

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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 04:38 PM
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114. Hillary appears to be partially funding her campaign with minor embezzlement.
Edited on Tue Apr-08-08 04:38 PM by Zodiak Ironfist
The same way a lot of shady businesses do. Just drag your feet on "processing" someone's request to stop payment and you can squeeze just a little more out of them.

I believe the Sopranos would call that "juicing".
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