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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:24 PM
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I LOVE Olbermann but the guy is making me nervous.......
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 08:40 PM by KansasVoter
He is great and telling 100% the truth about Hillary but maybe a little biased on the Obama side. It does not bother me as I think he is 100% right. but I think Olbermann needs to back off a little.

I agree with everything but am worried he might get bad press.

Any other Obama fans agree?
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:25 PM
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1. No. That clip from that movie and dragging that woman out of the party was hilarious.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 03:40 AM
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89. Yeah I loved that!
:rofl:
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:27 PM
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2. He calls 'em like he sees 'em. But then again, so does rush limbaugh.
But KO seems to seek truth, not spew hatred.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:35 PM
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19. Olbamermann spews hatred of Hillary but you think it's justified.
So does Limbaugh's audience.
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:49 PM
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36. if clinton is the nominee, i'll vote for her.
i still believe olbermann seeks truth.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:13 PM
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54. At least we don't have to "justify" hate from Michelle Malkin
Joe Scarborough, Newsmax, The American Conservative, and Drudge. Hillary supporters cry about Olbermann, Maddow, Miller and Malloy and yet I've seen links to all these people and places used to attack Obama on DU. Now why would I feel like I chose the wrong candidate when he's backed by all the liberal pundits, instead of the conservative ones? :shrug:
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:28 PM
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56. Drudge has been Obama's biggest backer
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:44 PM
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60. He was used this morning .. but feel free to replace his name
with some other right winger that has been used here to attack Obama.. There have been plenty.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:58 AM
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100. Bullshit! It's been reported that HRC's Staff are the ONEs connected with ole Drudge & Karl Rove.
Edited on Tue Apr-08-08 07:59 AM by ShortnFiery
Drudge? Rove? = One and the same: From Karl Rove's FAX to postings on Drudge's Website.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:48 PM
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68. "Olbamermann spews hatred of Hillary but you think it's justified"
all that, while having an Obama '08 Frankenstein head saying Got Hope?
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ekwhite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:05 AM
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103. It's not spewing hatred when he brings up the facts. N/T
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 03:36 PM
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129. He "spews hatred"? Really? When he calls her out for being a goddamned liar? That now qualifies as..
..."spewing hate"...

I call it objective journalism....

She lied her fucking ass off, he called her on it, and now HE'S the asshole...

Yeah. I get it...

:eyes:

What a bunch of stupid fucking lemmings....
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:30 PM
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62. Limbaugh doesn't call them like he sees them .. he lies. Olbermann ..
reports the facts.
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wrando Donating Member (949 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:29 AM
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108. olberman is
off his rocker

his predictable show is no longer watchable, you see one, you've seen them all.

his four nightly guests have no integrity, he feeds them spun questions to create a narrative and they go along for the ride

I guess these trained chimps will do anything for tv time

Bill from ct
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:57 AM
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113. Rendell says that Fox gives Hillary the fairest treatment, try them.
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wrando Donating Member (949 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 08:40 AM
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132. I'll try something else
Tune out all the noise, be it Fox Noise or Olberman noise.

They're all in love with the sound of their own lies.

Bill from ct
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:27 PM
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3. Nah. Frankly, I'm tired of the "objective" TV info-celebrities.
I prefer to know exactly where any television commentator stands.

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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:40 PM
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27. It changes everything.
The "neutral" ones are most suspect.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:29 PM
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4. Why should he back off? When he's right
he's right. I just want him to keep on telling the truth every day. If it hurts, maybe the ones who are getting the brunt of his truth should back off and start playing a straight game.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:37 PM
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23. Yeah, it's hilary who should be
making people Nervous.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:49 PM
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37. word.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:29 PM
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5. If we don't keep our people honest
we turn into Republicans.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 11:26 AM
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121. Exactly. (nt)
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:30 PM
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6. Biased how? Explain yourself please. nt
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:30 PM
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7. He's got stuff running down his leg over BO, just like Matthews
What's not to like?:shrug:
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:05 PM
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45. Ridiculous.
I think he's impressed by the man's eloquence and the way he's run his campaign. But it doesn't extend into the kind of creepy man-crush Tweety's always getting on people. I think that kind of thing gives him the willies.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:41 PM
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59. Awww. It's ok. No one would ever expect one of the KOWs
(Keith Ogremann Worshipers) to even dream of criticizing him :shrug:
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LulaMay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:26 PM
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61. Speaking of that 'stuff', he made up a new word tonight; "Clinterest". EEWWWWW
Did he even think about how that sounds?!

Probably not!

He's probably never paid much attention to a clinterest in his life.

It's all about HIM you know.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:36 PM
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64. Sadly, he turned into a clown, just like O'Reilly...maybe worse
Worse person in theee world....Clown
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:53 PM
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69. gross
you got the same stuff running down your leg right now about Hillary... sounds gross, huh?
welcome to ignore durrrty libby, there's been plenty of others, I finally pulled the trigger.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:01 PM
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73. Matthews said it. That's what passes as journalism these days
And I don't give a shit who you ignore.Losers always say that they

are ignoring someone. Such pathetic, stupid, whiny babies.:dunce: :nopity: :cry:
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:10 AM
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83. Yep, just like their guy they got a glass jaw.
I got no one on ignore. Like Hillary, we are tough and can punch them right back. These Obama fans seem to forget that if he becomes the nominee they'll need us.

Well, guess what? They can do it without me.

I already told the party not to even bother calling me in the GE to donate money, my time or fundraise for them.
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 03:01 AM
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87. Boooohoooo! There are plenty of Clinton supporters out there (NOT DU)
that will support Obama! Obama will win and you will just have to live with it! Clinton and her supporters underestimated Obama before and I look forward to seeing resentful Clinton and McCain supporters do it again.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 05:00 AM
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92. 'Glass jaw, huh. That's why his guy is whipping your butt. nt
Edited on Tue Apr-08-08 05:02 AM by Kahuna
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 09:13 AM
Response to Reply #92
110. That's why he got testy with reporters after 8 questions
and, to quote them, "fled" the room.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 09:21 AM
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112. If it doesn't flow off a telepromter, he gets discombobulated and stutters
He's a phony and fraud of the first order
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:53 AM
Response to Reply #73
99. It looks like HRC will appear on Matthew's show the day before the PA Primary,
where Tweety will literally and figuratively "slobber all over her."

Matthews SERVES the political elites by keeping us confused. However, when the hammer comes down, Tweety is in the pocket of "the political ruling class" (pro-corporate neo-liberals or neo-conservatives).

If you wish to know where Matthew's loyalty lies, follow his social agenda ... the MONEY people are where it's at for him.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:31 PM
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8. KO should keep on doing what he's been doing - telling it like it is, however the chips fall.
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Pavlovs DiOgie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:32 PM
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9. I'd have a problem if...
he had always been anti-Hillary/pro-Obama. But he's come to where he is today by watching her campaign. Clearly he's annoyed with what she's done in this campaign - he didn't start out disliking her. He calls it like he sees it, and that I respect.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:46 PM
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35. That's so true. She has run the campaign the way that she wanted it run.
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 08:47 PM by truedelphi
She didn't have her ducks in a row regarding different sttes and their caucuses.

She has a constant weird idiomatic bobbing of her head, so that even her "yes" statements look like "no" statements. (Psychologists think that indicates you are either lying or not entirely comfortable saying what you are saying.)

She wants to "manage" us. Obama wants our help running our country.

There are many other differences such that I could go on all day...

All this might be okay if the Clinton years had shown that with their leadership we would have legislation passed that we need.

But under the CLinton era, although they wonkized more than any other group of humans ever, they gave up on Health Care reform the second the reform hit a snag. Then they canned campaign finance reform. Then they passed NAFTA, and in 1999, they helped the banks de-regulate.

Without that bank de-regulation we wouldn't be in the economic fix we are in today.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:32 PM
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10. Nonsense
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 08:33 PM by Cali_Democrat
He supported Hillary until she started going with the fear option (3am ad). That's his #1 pet peeve, it really set him off.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 11:28 AM
Response to Reply #10
122. Some people have a lot of emotion invested in ignoring certain
uncomfortable facts.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:32 PM
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11. No, I dont agree
Right after Keith the Clinton fans get a full hour of Hillary love by Dan Abrahms, so there IS balance when taken in the overall context of things.
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progdog Donating Member (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:36 PM
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21. Wow!
Couldn't have said it better. I can't watch Dan's show anymore.
:applause:
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:41 PM
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29. I never watch that show so maybe it evens it out.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:56 PM
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39. Abrahms is not pro-Hillary. He's just not pro-Obama.
Learn the difference.
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SaveOurDemocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:40 PM
Response to Reply #39
65. Better lower your expectations, critical thinking is passe.

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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:33 PM
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12. I've felt that way for a couple of weeks.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:33 PM
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13. He's really the only MSNBC voice "we" can count on. There's Morning Ho shilling
for Hillary and bashing Obama for 3 hrs/day and on panel spots, and Andrea Mitchell, and let's not forget Buchanan. Its all tilted for Hillary. Then there's CNN and Fox and SNL. We take some good criticism where we can get it.

I don't feel guilty at all that for one hour a few days a week I can get all the "unbiased" Barack info I want to see :-)
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:34 PM
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14. I do not agree.
The only thing he is biased against is super long unnecessary primary seasons that do damage to the democratic party.

And if that is somehow bad then whatever. Nobody is going to change their mind watching a show that spends most of the time attacking republicans.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:35 PM
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15. No. I am absolutely disgusted and ashamed that the ridculous campaign Clinton has run
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 08:35 PM by Political Heretic
I am angry about it. I'm not calling Sen. Clinton personal derogatory names. But I am simply disgusted by what I have seen from her during this campaign.

I feel I've compiled a wealth of supporting examples sufficient to substantiate my own conclusion, that at the heart of the Clinton campaign is pure, unadulterated politics without a value base. It is a campaign of say anything, do anything, be anything to win. The ultimate value goal of the campaign is winning. Everything else is subordinated to that goal.

Of course every candidate for president has the goal of winning, but not every candidate subordinates all values, all integrity, all decency to that goal. I have lost all trust that Clinton means anything that she ever says. What she says either about herself or her opponent is totally relative to whatever happens to be politically expedient at that time.

Fundamentally, there is nothing I can stand less than that. I am not an ideological purist, and I understand that all candidates have to engage in a certain degree of "politiking" when they run. They all think about what people want to hear and how to win. But not all totally subordinate everything else to that one element. Hillary Clinton and her campaign does.

In my book, KO is not going too far at all. What he says is factually accurate. And I believe he shares the same anger I feel. It's his show, he's entitled to his point of view, and I happen to agree with him.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:35 PM
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16. He is the only one I have seen so far correct the record RE: Hillary and HospitalGate.
He is just calling it as he sees it.

Dan Abrams is very pro-Hillary and was shouting "media bias against Clinton" before Shuster ever mentioned Chelsea being pimped out. I still like his show.

As long as they report the news, I can decide for myself whether or not their personal convictions deserve any merit or not.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:35 PM
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17. KO is an Orielly wannabe
he is imitating an ass

not sure which is worse, but leaning toward wanting to imitate one


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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:35 PM
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18. Well:
<a href="http://www.imgsync.com"><img src="" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by IMGSync.com" /></a>
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TTUBatfan2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:36 PM
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20. I wish he would...
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 08:38 PM by TTUBatfan2008
show Obama's mistakes more often to balance what he's saying about Hillary. When she's caught lying, there's almost always some little white lie that is dug up on Obama (Selma, Kennedy airlift, etc.) but Olbermann doesn't report on them. It's not that he's not telling the truth about Hillary, it's that he's not showing Obama's blunders when he probably should.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:08 PM
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48. He doesn't report on them for good reason.
I'm sure he doesn't see them as being any big deal or evidence of a person engaging in any sort of extreme fabrication or any big "blunder.". Therefore he doesn't report on them.

He's also skipped some anti-Hillary stuff that he no doubt found equally unworthy of coverage.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:37 PM
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22. he's another asshole who went from anti-bush to anti-HRC
FUCKING SICKENING
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:39 PM
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25. Why does that make him an asshole? A lot of people agree with him.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:41 PM
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30. A million flies can't be wrong.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:43 PM
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32. LOL.
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Gore Edwards Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 04:54 AM
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91. Great line in this context
Not directed at you but the solution is pretty simple. Watch the spittlefest immediately preceding (Hardball), same stories, slightly different spin, and the best part, you don't have to feel guilty about ever respecting the host's intelligence. Or keep putting money in KO's pockets. It's easier than you think.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:44 PM
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34. YOU DON'T GET IT
you think it's fine because YOU HATE HER TOO. Think if he was trashing Obama night after night. HE SHOULD BE TRASHING McCAIN and McCAIN ONLY.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:57 PM
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40. You said it, Skittles.
You'd hear a different tune from these Obamanuts.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:58 PM
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41. I cannot for the life of me understand it
they DETESTED it when the corporate media did this shit to Bill Clinton but now that it's Hillary - HELL, NOW BOTH BILL AND HRC are fair game. I never thought I'd see the day - hell, even BuzzFlash, writers on DU - it's fucking NAUSEATING
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:09 PM
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50. I can think of comments that are "hate," "trashing" and "fucking nauseating,"
but Keith's are not among them.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:57 PM
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71. could you not attack other DUers? there's no reason for you immature name calling, none. Alright?
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 11:10 AM
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114. I don't even go to Buzzflash anymore.
It used to be my first click in the morning, then DU. Not anymore. I did notice a while back that his reader contributions ($$) were down, which he admitted was because of his anti-HRC slant.

Bake
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:56 PM
Response to Reply #40
70. well the VENOM is spewing forth tonight from lots of you
CLINTONUTS! (really, the name calling has got to stop, you sound 7!)

ignore.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:02 PM
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43. Nope, KO can trash whomever he wants.
He doesn't work for the Democrats. And BTW, I also watch Dobbs who generally defends Clinton. And besides that, you can't read my mind. You have no way of knowing if I hate Clinton or not. But you throw that out there knowing that I can't prove a negative.
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 03:29 PM
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127. KO spent about 8 minutes ripping McCain last night
Specifically on his Iraq War speech.

Anyone else on TV do that? Ever?
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:13 AM
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84. Oh yeah, the 3 people who still watch MSNBC.
Their ratings stink, as well they should.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:50 AM
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97. No, MSNBC has "Fastest Growing Primetime Lineup of any Top-50 Cable Channel."
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 11:34 AM
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123. He actually defends her, you know.
He's as FUCKING SICKENED by her disappointing campaign tactics (and that's putting it mildly) as lots of other people are (obviously not you or others who would rather believe he's soooooo anti-HRC)... but he is not "anti-HRC".

But he and his guests routinely defend her from unfair criticisms.

Sorry it's not enough for you. I suppose you think he should also be ingoring her faults... I disagree... as do many others. Just don't watch.



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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 03:33 PM
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128. ROFL!!!
Another enraged Hilliot....

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:38 PM
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24. KO is entitled to be biased.
He does a news commentary show, not a straight news show. He is entitled to his biases just like anyone else who hosts a show like that. Likewise, Lou Dobbs on CNN is entitled to his very strong pro Clinton bias.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:34 PM
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63. He is supposed to be entertaining, like a clown. He is a clown
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:39 PM
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26. No.
n/t.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:40 PM
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28. Clinton brings it on herself
Complaining about negative coverage on her is like complaining about the negative coverage of Iraq. You just can't "balance" some topics without becoming forcedly biased in the other direction. When there's a lot of shit, a lot of shit will hopefully be reported.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:43 PM
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31. I'm not an avid watcher...
cable news shows are just not my thing. There is always someone who is a lying sack of shit that pisses me off, but it has never been Keith.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:44 PM
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33. Back off? Back off the truth? Um, that's Keith's job.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:51 PM
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38. If Hitler ran against Gandhi...
I'm sure KO's comments would sound anti-Hitler...

just sayin, the truth will always make someone look bad and someone look good.

If Obama was running against Kucinich right now...I'd probably not be stickin' up for him.

But it's Hillary, so...easy call.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:59 PM
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42. D I S G U S T I N G
OMFG - :puke:
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 11:16 AM
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116. So I assume you're saying that Clinton = Hitler
While Obama = Gandhi.

Disgusting. I'm invoking Whoever's Law, that the first person to throw the "Hitler" card LOSES.

Bake
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 11:21 AM
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119. nope, the point is
Your actions will determine your 'good guy' status.

Of course Hillary isn't Hitler, nor Obama Gandhi.

The analogy was for Keith.

If Obama had Hillary's baggage, and she had his record, Keith would be on Hill's side.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 11:24 AM
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120. But that didn't stop you from making the Hitler analogy.
You only changed your tune when you got called on it. Backpedal much?

Bake
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:31 PM
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131. not a backpedal
Unless you call being civil (and not trying to offend you for no reason) backpedaling.

The analogy was made for the sake of portraying Keith's COVERAGE of Hitler and Gandhi.

But I know folks are in a fighting mood. I don't need to be, cause all my anti-republican anger gets released on the ball court.

KO is still a hero in my book.
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:03 PM
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44. Why ever back away from the truth?
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:05 PM
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46. Yeah he's got to even it up a bit or stay on GOP for a while. He doesn't want to look too partisan.
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 09:06 PM by cooolandrew
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:08 PM
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49. The reason you feel nervous is that clip proper demonising KO on the clips page...
It's really out of oreder lumping him in withRWers.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:08 PM
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47. What's the worry? Hillary and her strong-arming head hunters will
come for a suspension.

Keep it up, Kieth!
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:11 PM
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51. Agree. BUT if Hillary was a man, I wouldn't care.
Does that make me gender biased??
Ha.
If I were a naive Hillary supporter, KO would enrage me though, and make me hate Obama out of spite.

Found this video that was entertaining for the first half
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcdnlNZg2iM&e
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:12 PM
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52. Another....I am a fan
BUT...

yeah riiiiiight.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:13 PM
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53. Money talks.
:shrug: I used to like him. Now he is off the charts and I don't have dog in this hunt.
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:24 PM
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55. You never know about backlash
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 09:25 PM by DemGa
You Obamas are gloating right now over this abuse -- but it could turn quickly on the anointed one. I don't blame you a bit for your nervousness.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:19 AM
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85. If they had heard what many people said in PA
while we went canvassing this weekend, they wouldn't be so cocky. For many, if Hillary was not the nominee they would then rather vote for McCain. These folks here think that this is going to be a coronation. Not from the grumblings heard at ground level, it's not.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:32 PM
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58. I can't watch him these days
and I'm a Keith fan, not particularly a Hillary supporter. It's just too much for me. I'll be back to him after the convention.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:42 PM
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66. So KO should..what? Make up stuff about Obama so he will have...
as much to criticize Obama for as Hillary Clinton shovels our way every day for us to criticize her about?

Pardon, wouldn't that be biased and unfair? It certainly wouldn't be ethical.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:45 PM
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67. Olbermann has the best instincts...
...on cable TV. He's about truth. :patriot:
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:57 PM
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72. KO is has become a jerk...just like BillO only he's a jerk from the left.
I don't watch him anymore but if he's starting to back off a little on Hillary...it isn't because he has seen the light. It's because his ratings have plummeted since he got on the Obama bandwagon. He and MSNBC know where their bread is buttered and it's not by losing half the Democrat supporters. He certainly lost me and many others. That reminds me...time to write him another letter. Pick up those pens Hillary supporters.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:02 PM
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74. Sometimes the truth can make one nervous since we are so unacustomed to it.
But the bottomline is that Keith knows of what he speaks of, and I'm glad that someone is getting it right, and doesn't give a shit of who gets nervous. He cracked me up today, and he knows a presidential leader when he sees one. Why should he deny it, considering how skewed to the untruth so many other pundits are. He has his own show, and like Lou Dobbs hates Obama, and O'reilly hates Obama, and Anderson Cooper loves to pastorbate, and Wolfe loves himself, why shouldn't Keith O line himself up with the majority of the Democrats?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 12:10 AM
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79. Thanks for
that perspective, French.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:04 PM
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75. I respect you feel he's making you nervous. but I say, really no reason to be nervous
for this is the reason we love him so - he's out there telling it like it is - and if he can call out Cheney & B*sh and the other clowns and his brain and way of wording is so powerfully gifted - then perhaps, a lot of those 43% who support Hillary might wanna listen up and see why what she's doing is so ridiculously not cool. I guess the more I see this type of love-fest of a candidate continue, despite major embarrassments (and as some know I'm an Edwards supporter who backs O over HRC) it makes it easier for me to see how people ignore their governments and give total allegiance to their president/dictator/king etc, throughout history, much like Hitler and B*sh... they just think so much of the person that they are blind to the horrible behavior.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:57 PM
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76. Hillary is pushing his buttons...especially when she started to use the fear card.
That absolutely sets him off no matter who does it. If Obama tries it KO will rip him to shreds too. And come on...her assertion that she opposed the war before Obama did is ridiculous and exactly the sort of thing he will kill you on. Don't give him a nice big fat juicy one to hit out of the park.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 12:02 AM
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77. When someone is in the thick of a smear campaign....
....their emotions blind them.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 12:53 AM
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81. Yeah I guess so...but he really wasn't on her case until
she was practically begging to be blasted by him. And once he unleashes...yowza.

The moral of the story is do not get on KO's bad side. And if you are, tread carefully or you are gonna get it.

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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 12:02 AM
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78. CNN = Clinton, MSNBC = Obama, Fox = McCain.. That's just how it is some reason.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 12:28 AM
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80. LOVE KO. Keep doing what he's doing. Saying the truth. GO KO! He's not afraid of HC thugs
I do not think that clip of a woman being dragged out of a hall was good (a little too realistic) but he isn't doing anything but telling people the truth.
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ekwhite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:24 AM
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106. To be honest, I didn't like that one
That appeared to be just piling on. I would have preferred if he had gone to a non-Hillary story after the other stories about Clinton yesterday.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 11:14 AM
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115. He's doing, essentially, the same thing Randi did on the radio
That is, alienating half his audience. When his ratings tank (count me, BTW, as another former faithful viewer who can't watch him anymore) and his show gets canceled, don't come crying to me.

Bake
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 03:46 PM
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130. Cancelled? Crying?
March 2, 2008:

"COUNTDOWN beat Bill O'Reilly, won the 8pm timeslot, and was the highest rated program on cable news."

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/msnbc/griffin_compliments_countdown_demo_win_78796.asp#more
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:02 AM
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82. A LITTLE biased on the Obama side????????????
Oh please, this is way too funny. Olbermann has become an asshole in the same category as Tweety. Truths about Hillary and just a wee bit pro Obama????????

God, what DO they use to spike the Kool-Aid???????

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 02:57 AM
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86. I'm worried but not for that reason. I'm worried because I don't want
a repeat of NH where the women start feeling sorry for Hillary because the media is exposing her for the lying piece of crap she is. I don't want them saying, "Oh poor Hillary! We must save her from the big, bad media!" We are at the end of the campaign so hopefully women won't fall for that. Especially after they have seen how much she lies. However, you never know. It especially could happen in a Clinton-friendly state like PA.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 03:13 AM
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88. KO is doing the RNC's work while making it look like it comes from Obama
What could possibly be wrong with that?

:puke:

Boys who only know sports should not mess around with politics. I think maybe Tweety has been giving him some bad advice because he is jealous of him and wants his career to flounder, like in a Shakespeare tragedy. If I thought KO was politically savvy, I would say that he made a deal with Bill Clinton.

KO: Here's what I can do. I'll act like a pit bull. Attack your wife at every chance. Make like Ken Starr.

Big Dog: Great idea! My polls were threw the roof during the impeachment.

KO: I'll needle her for every little thing. Robison and Maddow can help. They love Obama.

Big Dog: Won't it hurt you career?

KO: Naw! I'm cool. I have a contract.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:01 AM
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101. IMO, "projection"
:shrug:
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 04:54 AM
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90. I don't watch him any more.
I am not a supporter of either Clinton or Obama. I just can't stand that he went from going after Bush and the Republicans to trashing a Democrat. Why are we praising him for trashing a Democrat? He is no friend of the Democratic Party. The Obama supporters just love him right now because he constantly bashes Clinton. But even if you don't like her, do you think it is acceptable to watch a program that is so critical of one of ours? I don't. He just goes whichever way the wind blows and I have lost all respect for him. The last time I watched him a few months ago, 4 out of 5 stories were bashing Clinton. What the hell has Bush been up to lately? None of us know because the media is fully engaged in the Obama vs. Clinton slug fest. Shame on everyone for falling for that bull crap instead of demanding real news. Obama supporters just love Olbermann right now because every story he does never shows any flaws about the candidate. He is much more than "a little biased on the Obama side." I think Obama should pay him for all the free publicity and promotion!! 2,024 dead soldiers. Where's the "Special Comment" Keith???????????? Oh yeah. I forgot that you are too busy with your Obama love to care about that.
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TTUBatfan2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 05:00 AM
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93. Not really promotion...
Edited on Tue Apr-08-08 05:01 AM by TTUBatfan2008
It's more anti-Hillary than it is pro-Obama. As I said earlier, I wish he would report the same blunders by Barack's campaign that he reports about Hillary's campaign. Both have had plenty of blunders to choose from, that's for sure, but he pretty much ignores it when Barack makes a mistake and then he makes a big deal out of every blunder by Hillary. More importantly I just wish he'd get back to attacking the Repukes in Congress and the Bush crime family.
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:03 AM
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96. You are absolutely right on that one!!
It would be great to see our media focus more on Bush. It would also be great to see our so-called progressive radio, television, and print media focus more on Clinton/Obama vs. John McCain. Senator McCain is rising to the top in the polls because the media is giving him a free pass while they focus completely on this battle between the Dems. As of right now, McCain would beat either Obama or Clinton in the General Election. That is what I am worried about. Olbermann should do at least one story per night on McCain and his positions so that America can get to know him. He looks like a hero right now and our Dems look like a bunch of children fighting in the school yard.
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rAVES Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 05:11 AM
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94. Obama too smart to fall for the Clinton bullshit.. he has no choice here..
I bet he'd like to be more even handed.. in this case it would make him look like a shill.
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against all enemies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:01 AM
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95. KO kicked McCain's ass last night concerning his Iraq speech.

Why does he only tell the truth about McCain?
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:15 AM
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98. He's reflecting a lot of what
happened to many others - it was that 3 a.m. thing that did it to Keith. He wasn't anti-Clinton until then. He was a little behind the curve as far as I'm concerned. She started to piss me off BEFORE then.
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ekwhite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:04 AM
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102. I tend to agree
I love Olbermann, and his stories are true, but I would like to hear about something besides Hillary. He did get in a slap at McCain last night though.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:22 AM
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104. he's turned himself from a journalist into a pundit.
but, heck - that's where the money is.

Bottom line, it's just a business decision.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:23 AM
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105. Nope. I love it.
Huck Fillary.
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wrando Donating Member (949 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:25 AM
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107. I agree
Do you Olberman might fall out of love with BO?

Oh gosh, I pray that he doesn't

Bill from ct
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madwivoter Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:52 AM
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109. I love Olbermann too...
I think he went a bit overboard last night, but he is right, there does seem to be a bit of desperation coming from the Clinton camp these days.

Taking a step back and thinking about it, I don't think he'd hesitate for one second to do the same to Obama. I've heard him slam Obama pretty hard in the recent past.



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JayFredMuggs Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 09:17 AM
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111. The only time I am offended by the media is when
Edited on Tue Apr-08-08 09:18 AM by JayFredMuggs
It doesn't tell the truth! Even Olbermann told the truth about Hillary's hospitalgate story last night.

I only resent the Fixed Noise network for slanting and mis-characterizing the truth about Democrats every chance they get.

Remember Fixed News going on and on about Obama attending a "madrassa" as a child?

The greatest thing about Olbermann is that he nails Fixed Noise every time they lie!
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 11:16 AM
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117. Olberman will survive he is a good braodcaster with a large braveheart.
Edited on Tue Apr-08-08 11:17 AM by cooolandrew
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 02:55 PM
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126. lol... Funniest delusion of the day
:rofl:
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wowimthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 11:19 AM
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118. I think speaking truth to power has proven risky. He should keep doing it.
We want truth in our media. He's the only one whose giving it to us. We want to see more people like him.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 11:35 AM
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124. And even better than truth to power
Is the truth ABOUT power - to the common folk...

GO KEITH!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 11:39 AM
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125. No... but thanks for sharing your "concern".
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 08:44 AM
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133. So check this out, I have a choice of
watching Kill O'Reilly or Kill Olberman @ the same time every night. I never liked O'Reilly and now I don't like Olberman. However, with Olberman's obsession about Clinton and lying, for example the Ohio issue which turned out the WaPo reported never vetted and had to retract some of her statement. Olberman, from what I have heard talked about it for an hour on monday but on tuesday he dropped it like a rock. Anyway, I listen to the dysfunctional O'Reilly because he gives equal hate air time for Obama and Clinton. At least it's not all about Clinton.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:05 AM
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134. He's just one voice...
...who occasionally exhibits some independence from the rest of the MSM. We need media full of voices with similar divergence from corporate conventional wisdom.
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