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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:02 PM
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Clinton Makes A Play For The Female Vote - AJC
By Kirsten Scharnberg
Published on: 04/08/08

<snip>

CHICAGO — In a recent Hillary Clinton fundraising video, the cameras purposely zoom in on the faces of enraptured female supporters. They pan to signs in the crowd: "Pennsylvania Women for Hillary," "Our Mamas for the Mama" and "The Butler Girls (heart) Hillary." The spot focuses almost entirely on women.

"She is a symbol for the females," one Pennsylvania woman says into the camera. "I'm 60 years old, and I want her to win."

From the beginning of her historic run for the White House, Clinton has worn with pride the mantle of the first viable female presidential candidate, citing how women who were born before they had the right to vote routinely send her letters of encouragement and envelopes of money. During the earliest days of her campaign, she talked about breaking "America's highest glass ceiling."

Yet the Clinton campaign also has had to tread carefully on the topic of gender to avoid alienating male voters who may still struggle with envisioning a female commander in chief, as well as some as well as some female voters who, many analysts believe, worry that Clinton is too polarizing a figure to successfully represent their gender.

But the Pennsylvania Internet video — along with get-out-the-vote rallies aimed directly at women and a slew of recent comments on sexism from Clinton's surrogates and recent events that have highlighted the intersection of gender and politics in the campaign — is evidence that Clinton's focus on her role as a female candidate is becoming more overt than ever.

Some analysts suggest that as her chances of winning the nomination grow slimmer, the Clinton campaign has little to lose and will increasingly focus on gender as a way to motivate her base and increase campaign contributions as well as to explain how unfairly they believe she is being treated by the news media and the Democratic Party.

Former President Bill Clinton told a crowd in North Carolina, "Apparently it's OK to say bad things about a girl." Madeleine Kunin, the former governor of Vermont and a Clinton supporter, fumed over recent calls for the candidate to quit the race, saying, "It seems a bit patronizing to say, 'Honey, you've got to drop out for the good of the party.'"

A Clinton campaign strategist said the New York senator had previously not made regular appeals from the stump involving gender, although she would sometimes frame the issue in talking about "how historic this election is for the party and the country."

But her campaign now is appealing more directly to women, particularly in light of what the campaign says are the negative reactions of females to calls from some Democrats, including those aligned with rival Sen. Barack Obama, for Clinton to exit the race, said the adviser, who asked not to be identified because he was not authorized to speak publicly on strategy.

"We hear from a lot of women who are upset by the call from Obama supporters for Hillary to quit," the adviser said. "We are appealing more directly to them at this time. ... We've been flooded with e-mails from women and hear about it at events every day."

Former Colorado Congresswoman Patricia Schroeder, who considered a run for president two decades ago, has watched with fascination as the Clinton campaign grapples with "the gender card." Schroeder, who has endorsed Clinton, said there still is no blueprint for how a woman should act when running for the White House, particularly when the odds grow long.

"For a man, if you need him to be more powerful, you put on a blue blazer, a white shirt and a red tie," she said. "If you need him to be more accessible and down to earth, you lose the jacket and loosen the tie or throw on a casual shirt with rolled-up sleeves.

"For women," Schroeder said, "there is still no formula for how to appear as a credible political candidate. They usually either look like a Vogue model or an unmade bed."

And...

No doubt, a gender gap has helped Clinton in some regards. Older, middle-age and working-class women have remained core constituents. A recent poll looking at voters in the pivotal upcoming battleground state of Pennsylvania found that Clinton leads Obama among female voters by 60 percent to 31 percent. Yet young, well-educated women are turning to Obama. For them, gender is not a driving factor in their vote — or even a factor at all.

"They absolutely believe a woman will be president during their lifetime," Sanders said. "They don't feel that is their battle at all. And these women believe that they as women will benefit just as much from an African-American man who is going to work to impact racial disadvantages. Women know that, historically, when minorities are positively influenced, so are women."

Schroeder summed it up like this: "I think what you're hearing a lot from people is basically this: 'I'm all for having a woman president — just not this woman.' "

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Link: http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/stories/2008/04/08/clinton_women_0408.html

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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:03 PM
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1. Well-educated women trend to Obama...hm...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:06 PM
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:09 PM
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3. what a bitter no-class post. BO would be ashamed of you.



"yep old, bitter, and low educated women goes to Hillary" your
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easy_b94 Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:10 PM
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5. you just proved my point
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:18 PM
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14. The only one that has proven anything is you--you and your agist, elistist post
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:13 PM
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8. there is no sexism on DU, it is just used as a political tool by the clintons
Edited on Tue Apr-08-08 01:15 PM by noiretblu
right? :eyes: this place is a cesspool of isms, just like the country.
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easy_b94 Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:16 PM
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11. sexism ???I am just pointing out the type of women who votes for Obama
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:17 PM
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13. no....you are further proving that you are an idiot eom
Edited on Tue Apr-08-08 01:45 PM by noiretblu
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easy_b94 Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:19 PM
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16. whatever...you just made my point end of story
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:23 PM
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18. yeah--YOU DEMEAN WOMEN AND THEN SAY STUPID STUFF!!
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:32 PM
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27. you really need to work on your trolling skills
Edited on Tue Apr-08-08 01:34 PM by noiretblu
you have no "point." you posted a stupid, sexist comment...you didn't make "a point." what is even more sad than your comment is your apparent belief that you actually posted a valid argument.
DU is so dumb these days.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:25 PM
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20. YOU just pointed out how low some Obama folks can go on this board!
sexism ???I am just pointing out the type of women who votes for Obama
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:09 PM
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4. not only a stupid comment, but a truly offensive one as well
speaks volumes about the person who posted it.
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easy_b94 Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:13 PM
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7. u talk alot of crap for the issues u r going through right now..u better take care of home
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:15 PM
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9. what in the FUCK does that mean?
you made a stupid, tasteless comment and insulted a poster here. please don't try to clean that up with another vague, stupid comment.
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easy_b94 Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:17 PM
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12. U know what I mean!! the grass is not always greener on the other side ;)
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:18 PM
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15. i still have no idea of what you mean
and i won't waste anymore time on you. enjoy your stay :nuke:
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 03:25 PM
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42. And you would be well advised to "take care"
of your spelling.

Every post I've read of yours so far has been filled with idiotic abbreviations and the content makes absolutely no sense.

Come back and post again when you learn to clearly get your point across.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:13 PM
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6. hilary's a bad symbol for females..
she's already lost.

As buzzflash says: .."there are many progressive women who aren't dlc fabulist, corporate lobbist, triangulator candidates. Unfortunately, we got stuck with hilary
who is all of the above as our first female presidential candidate.

Congresswoman Jan Schakowsky who is seeking to be appointed to replace Senator Obama should he be elected president is one of those fine progressives who would be a fantastic candidate for president".


http://www.buzzflash.com/

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/880337,CST-NWS-senate06.article



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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:48 PM
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30. since obama is not a progressive
Edited on Tue Apr-08-08 01:49 PM by noiretblu
why should progressives vote for him? i don't understand this argument at all. he's better than clinton...that's an argument i can buy.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:56 PM
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32. How Ya Doin ???
:bounce::hi::bounce:

:loveya:
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:40 PM
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48. great
feeling great, and i am off work for another three weeks :woohoo:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 02:26 PM
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35. Obama is very progressive..
sorry you don't "understand".
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:37 PM
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47. i understand your need to paint him as progressive
since his views are similar to clinton's who is also not a progressive.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:15 PM
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10. "Our Mamas for the Mama"
Myself, I find that offensive. Maybe its a breeder thing. But to me, its disrespectful.
Would anyone call Hillary Clinton "Mama" to her face? If not, its not appropriate.
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easy_b94 Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:22 PM
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17. mods yall might want to lock this post
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:24 PM
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19. Is That What You Came Here For ???
You hijack the thread and then you want it locked???

You got some fucking nerve!

And apparently an agenda.

Go away!

:wtf:
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easy_b94 Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:25 PM
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22. No i did not ment for this to get out of control but it did
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:30 PM
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26. Your POSTS are DISTRUPTIVE AND RUDE
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:34 PM
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28. If you were mature you would apologize--but instead you run like a chicken to the mods
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easy_b94 Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:38 PM
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29. I somewhat apologize but you all are soft
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:59 PM
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33. A mature BO fan on the cry-baby new thread of yours just said an apology would go a long way
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 02:45 PM
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37. Looks like that apology will have to come from beyond the grave.
And I didn't even get a "thank you" from him. :-)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 03:06 PM
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39. is IT gone?
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 08:19 AM
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46. Good- Pretty sure that was the Asshat that was calling Auntie Bush a troll the other day.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 02:07 PM
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34. "No i did not ment for this to get out of control but it did"
You come across as an extremely educated individual.

:dunce:.... :crazy: .... :wow:.... :nuke:......:dunce:


:rofl:.. :rofl: ..:rofl:... :rofl: ...:crazy:
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:50 PM
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31. It's easier to get posts threads if you first turn them into flame-fests.
Edited on Tue Apr-08-08 01:51 PM by Tesha
Haven't you noticed that's a common behavior here?
Round up the herd, have them all throw some gasoline,
and then complain that there's a fire raging...

Tesha
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:26 PM
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24. Why? because you are disruptive?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:26 PM
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25. -you need to apologize to this board for your agist, rude comment
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:25 PM
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21. "Apparently it's OK to say bad things about a girl." - Bill Clinton
Is he fucking serious with this shit? Disgusting!! THAT is sexism.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 02:40 PM
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36. are you serious?---It is a ' apply sarcasm button directly to your brain" comment.
Edited on Tue Apr-08-08 03:12 PM by rodeodance
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 03:17 PM
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41. Say wha?
I seriously don't understand what you are saying. Little help?

Look, can't you admit that's a stupid thing for him to say?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 03:35 PM
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43. its sarcasm--get it.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:25 PM
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23. "Apparently it's OK to say bad things about a girl."
Shaddup already, Bill. :eyes:
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 02:47 PM
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38. I am female and I am nearly 60 years old and I...
...want her to drop out of the race. :puke:

The more I see of Hillary, the more I detest her.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 03:14 PM
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40. too bad. she is not dropping out. Demanding she drop out makes Obama fans look weak.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 03:57 PM
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44. I'm 46 and can't stand the sight of her any more.
She should leave the race and give the Dems their best chance to reclaim the WH.
We can't afford 4 years of McSame.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 04:06 PM
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45. Someone tell Hillary not to pick out the drapes yet n/t
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