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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 02:59 PM
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Obama's happy, drama-free appeal
In the days and weeks ahead, the Barack Obama campaign is going to pose a simple question to the undecided voters and undeclared superdelegates who will decide the Democratic nomination for president: If Hillary Clinton can’t run a good primary campaign, how is she ever going to run a good campaign against the Republicans?

And while she says she is ready from Day One to be president, she is at something like Day 430 into being a presidential candidate and her campaign seems to be going from bad to worse to train wreck.

Mark Penn, who just got booted as her chief strategist, is only the latest problem in a campaign that has been heavy on drama and light on results.

“None of these folks have ever run anything, other than Hillary running a health care task force,” David Axelrod, Obama’s chief strategist, told me Monday. “But these campaigns are big, complicated, pressure-filled enterprises, and it is an important proving ground.”

The Obama campaign is going to tell voters it is proving itself every day. It says it had a calm and deliberate strategy that it has executed well: Win Iowa (I will write more about this in my next column) and then aggregate delegates

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9436.html
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 03:03 PM
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1. whatever is that person smoking? rezko, wright, etc?
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damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 03:06 PM
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2. And yet, they're winning...
and, as to Rezko & Wright:

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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 03:16 PM
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3. gee, you know what? SOME people consider his "lapses of judgment"
and his "gee, I NEVER heard those remarks from my pastor, my spiritual advisor, my mentor, my friend" rather serious. but heaven forfend we should question ANYTHING about him or his campaign.
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damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 04:19 PM
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7. Since you brought it up...
Let's talk lack of judgment, and compare Clinton's with Obama's...Clinton's include:

*Voting for the IWR and AGAINST the Levin Amendment - facilitating the deaths of over 4000 Americans to date, and tens of thousands of Iraqis;
*Voting for the "No Credit Card Company Left Behind" bankruptcy bill - making it harder for average folks to get out from under the mountains of debt the cc companies helped get them into with their predatory practices.
*Voting against a Senate amendment banning the use of cluster munitions in civilian areas and refugee camps - putting CIVILIAN lives at risk unnecessarily.

BTW, Obama spoke against the IWR at the time; voted AGAINST the bankruptcy bill, and FOR the cluster munitions ban.

And yet you consider Rezko & Wright serious misjudgments. Please explain to me how anyone was killed or put in danger of their lives, or was pushed to financial ruin by either of these "lapses of judgment", and I MIGHT be able to take you seriously. Obama's misjudgments are in his associates - Clinton's are matters of policy.

And we haven't even gotten to campaign mismanagement as yet. The shortsightedness of the Clinton campaign staggers the mind. Their utter failure to read the public mood with regard to Obama speaks of a political tone-deafness I DON'T want in the WH - we've had 8 years of that already.
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damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 04:31 PM
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8. And they're STILL winning... (n/t)
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DarienComp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 04:36 PM
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10. Some people like Michael Bolton. To each his own.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 04:36 PM
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9. You mean the same Rezko
who you people have been squawking nonstop about since you first heard his name--and yet there has been absolutely no evidence of wrongdoing found on Obama's part?

Or the same Rev. Wright who Obama didn't disown because the guy's been like family for the last 20 years, warts and all? I guess you've never had a relative who said something particularly embarrassing in public.

I'd go on but I'm too busy dodging sniper fire.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 04:56 PM
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13. the same rezko that obama said he had had a "serious lapse of judgment" ( HIS OWN WORDS* to be
involved with? yes, THAT rezko.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 05:07 PM
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14. Yeah, that sounds to me like a CLEAR admission of massive guilt
and complicity in federal crimes that should land Obama in prison! :sarcasm:

Yeah, it was a lapse in judgment--but I've had a few of those too, and they haven't ruined my life or stopped me from pursuing my dreams.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 03:18 PM
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4. "drama-free"???
:rofl:
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 03:19 PM
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5. 'no shock Barack, no drama Obama'
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 03:28 PM
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6. That is the key to this whole shootin match
It isn't about policy -- it is about how they will manage the most complicated country on the planet.

Policy specifics can (and will) be worked out in Congress.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 04:50 PM
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11. Obama plays the game best.. Hillary should take notes for senate campaign.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 04:54 PM
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12. how EVER did she manage to get elected TWICE to the senate without his example?
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