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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:29 PM
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Under HRC's own plan she'd be fined.
According to Politico.com , Hillary has failed to pay $292,000 in healthcare premiums for her own staff. And what makes this episode even more ironic is the fact that Hillary's failure to pay those premiums reinforces a point that Obama has repeatedly made during the campaign. Hillary claimed that Obama's plan was flawed because it didn't cover all of the people. In response, Obama said that his plan covered anyone who wanted to be insured, but he didn't make it mandatory that every adult be insured because under Hillary's plan if a person couldn't afford to pay the premium they'd be fined for missing the payment, which would create an additional financial burden on many people. Now maybe Hillary will understand Obama's point. If Hillary's campaign staff had been insured under her plan, in addition to having to pay the $292,000 in back premiums, she'd also be facing a fine.


It's sad to watch the Clintons go down in flames. I would have been quite comfortable with having Bill step into history as one of our great presidents, and to see Hillary live out an illustrious political career, whatever that entailed. But in the end, it's beginning to look like it is the intent of destiny to set the record straight. What we now know about the Clinton's ugly greed for power has brought additional scrutiny into their lives, and at this point, it looks like it's going to be their undoing. While it's painful knowing that I was wrong about them, I'd much rather to be informed than to be right.

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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:32 PM
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1. Great topic!
Tho it is sad that we CONTINUE to talk about this race every day while republicans make gains in the congressional races.

I just want to point that out as I hope everyone will start to pay more attention to congress.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:44 PM
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2. My gut tells me
that whoever wins the presidential race will not be in the driver's seat regarding universal healthcare.

Congress will be driver on this, I think.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:47 PM
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3. And you will be right.
Obama is not going to be able to have much of a say about healthcare. That is a congressional stronghold that will not take lightly to presidential talk about alternatives.

If Clinton is serious about her plan she needs to start working up a plan for Congress 2009 to start working on.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:22 PM
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4. congress may sit in the driver's seat, but congress will not be the driver
from the back seat or otherwise, there are too many vested interests and WAY too much money at stake. congess will stamp their collective feet, but the driving will be done by the insurance companies and the managed hospitals and so on....
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:53 PM
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5. I think that the untold story will be the re emergence of labor
Because we will be asked to restart a domestic industrial economy with expensive oil. And food will start to be intensively farmed. I suspect by 2025, one in four kids will be going into agriculture.

Monoculture is going to hit the wall hard. A lot of best practice will have to be assembled and distrubited as the effects of climate change is adapted to.

Kansas will see a lot of grass fed bison and a return to turkey red hard wheat. Oh, and hemp, the number two crop in Kansas until 1950s.

The meta effect will be a rise in labor's power, and a violent leftward swing that will make Reaganism look like a microtrend.
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progetto Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 09:49 PM
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6. she's loosing credibility by the minute

Hillary has the bucks to cover her staff if she wanted to.

Maybe the MSM will pickup on this, but it sucks that Hillary would need be shamed into doing the right thing.

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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:32 PM
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7. ,,,
Edited on Tue Apr-08-08 10:34 PM by cooolandrew
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:32 PM
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8. Only th little people pay their tab.
Edited on Tue Apr-08-08 10:34 PM by cooolandrew
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