Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

"Some of you just automatically attack every lie Hillary makes up."

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:36 PM
Original message
"Some of you just automatically attack every lie Hillary makes up."
The NERVE of you people.

You are all dead to me.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:38 PM
Response to Original message
1. I would have been here sooner....
but was penned down by heavy sniper fire...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:47 PM
Response to Reply #1
7. Well, I am right behind ya....but a bit later.
It was not only the sniper fire, but lugging that heavy book bag and having to throw it across the room slowed me down even more!

:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:51 PM
Response to Reply #7
9. you're my hero!..........n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:53 PM
Response to Reply #9
10. I got your back, Abbie....
....just keep running for the armoured vehicle with your head down!

:evilgrin:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:57 PM
Response to Reply #1
14. I would have been here sooner....
but according to my math I was already here.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:03 PM
Response to Reply #14
16. damn you're good.....
Pardon me

:wow:


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:23 PM
Response to Reply #14
17. that's a DUzy! You rock!
Edited on Tue Apr-08-08 07:24 PM by elehhhhna
smartiebrain, you
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 11:48 PM
Response to Reply #14
31. Absolutely the funniest crack on DU in...
weeks? Months? Longer?? As a rule, I don't rofl, but man is that FUNNY! PROPS! :)

(OK) :rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:35 AM
Response to Reply #14
33. LOL!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 12:45 PM
Response to Reply #14
38. Damn teh evil mathz...
:)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:40 PM
Response to Original message
2. dos recomendaciones
k/r
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:41 PM
Response to Original message
3. I agree.


"I've never lied to the people of this wonderful country."

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:46 PM
Response to Reply #3
6. Not called for.
If Clinton is the nominee, all of the Freepers' work will be done for them.

*sigh*
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:49 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. relax, she won't be the nominee.
all is well
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:54 PM
Response to Reply #6
12. you 're assuming they can read....
if we keep the pictures at a minimum, they will have no idea what we are talking about :wink wink nudge nudge:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 11:14 PM
Response to Reply #12
30. From what I have seen over there I doubt they can read. Take this FR thread for instance
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:54 PM
Response to Reply #6
13. By Senator Clinton n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:27 PM
Response to Reply #6
18. Unfortunately, by her and her supporters
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:54 PM
Response to Reply #18
26. There's definitely contributions on both sides, no doubt.
And again, a sigh.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:43 PM
Response to Original message
4. LMFAO.. Exaclty..
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:43 PM
Response to Original message
5. How do I get out from under this bus?
Oh. Never mind.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:53 PM
Response to Original message
11. We don't count n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:59 PM
Response to Original message
15. It was the salesman at Books and Bags fault. He's the one that told her it was a throwable bookbag.
Edited on Tue Apr-08-08 07:36 PM by Major Hogwash
LoL
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:28 PM
Response to Original message
19. Why is my campaign in this handbasket -- and where are we going?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:30 PM
Response to Original message
20. I laughed so hard some of my walrus-milk smoothie came out my nose! n/t
PB
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:31 PM
Response to Original message
21. Bwahahaahaha! Excellent!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:33 PM
Response to Original message
22. LOL! Love it.
:thumbsup:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:34 PM
Response to Original message
23. I'm having to post this a lot tonight 'cause
Edited on Tue Apr-08-08 07:35 PM by zidzi
there's nothing more important than voters realizing how important it is that hilary liar clinton doesn't lie her way into OUR white house.

"Why Hillary’s Lies are Important"

By - March 24, 2008, 9:53PM
Hillary Clinton has been caught in a series of lies and misrepresentations during the primary campaign. To some of her supporters, these lies may seem trivial and insignificant and even politics-as-usual. However, please consider the serious impact of these lies by placing them in the context of the past seven years of the Bush Administration and the legacy of expanded executive power that he leaves behind. In particular, consider the dangerous message that the Clinton campaign sends by employing similar tactics to achieve her political goals.

1. The Florida and Michigan Primaries / The Delegate Count
Hillary agreed to honor the DNC’s decision to strip Florida and Michigan of its delegates after their primaries were moved up into January in express violation of the DNC rules. She did not change her position on the validity of these primaries until she found herself unexpectedly behind in the delegate count and desperately needed to claim the delegates that she had won in these unsanctioned contests. As her chances of winning the nomination became increasingly slim in recent weeks, we have been presented with threatening and desperate lines of reasoning for why these primary results should count as is. At the same time, Clinton and her surrogates continue to propose different metrics for determining who should win the nomination even though there is and has been a clearly defined process in place for several decades.

Please think about the implications of changing election rules after the fact. We have suffered through at least one stolen presidential election and the manipulation of untold numbers of Congressional and state elections through various vote tampering and voter intimidation schemes used by the Republicans and their allies. The American people (and especially Democratic voters) have lost faith in the integrity of the election process. The Clinton strategy to continually change the rules for determining the Democratic Party nominee sets a dangerous precedent that could lead to increasingly un-Democratic elections in the future if it is allowed to succeed. If anything, we need more transparency and methods of accountability in our elections in order to repair the damage done in recent years and to restore our confidence in the Government.

2. The Bosnia Fabrication / Exaggerated Experience Claims
Hillary fabricated a story about a dangerous, life-risking visit to Bosnia in order to gain stature as an experienced negotiator in international conflicts and war. While this type of embellishment can seem almost comical, it represents a willingness to distort reality in order to influence the public perception. This is the same type of distortion that the Bush administration used to justify the war in Iraq, although the magnitude of the lie is certainly on a different scale. The Bush administration falsified reports, cherry-picked intelligence, used unreliable sources, and employed fear-mongering tactics to convince the American public that our safety was at risk and as such, you were either with us or with the terrorists. The lies used by President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney are impeachable offenses and should be condemned by all Americans. Sadly, the Clinton campaign seems to have shown a shocking willingness to employ the same tactics to create a more favorable reality and to rely on divide-and-conquer rhetoric to weaken opposition. Her attempts to frighten the American people by conjuring up 3 AM phone calls are bad enough, but her vote of confidence in John McCain over Barack Obama should be seen as treason against the Democratic Party.

3. NAFTA
Hillary lied about her position on NAFTA and used her lies in a calculated way to influence the Ohio primary. Recently released White House documents confirm that Hillary had been an active proponent of NAFTA prior to its passage, and she has continued to support it publicly in her speeches and memoir. However, while campaigning in Ohio, she claimed to have been privately against NAFTA during the Clinton presidency and believes that it should be rewritten to protect American jobs and workers. This type of maneuvering is reminiscent of the behind-closed-doors policy-making that the Bush administration has used during the past seven years. Specifically, Bush and Cheney have made policy decisions without providing transparency to Congress or the public, and President Bush has repeatedly ignored the rule of law by issuing signing statements and disregarding the parts of the laws that he doesn’t agree with. If we cannot trust Hillary to be truthful about her positions on critical legislative issues now, how can we trust that she will be truthful as president?

These are just three examples that illustrate the concerns we should have with a candidate who demonstrates a sense of entitlement to the nomination and is willing to lie, misrepresent, threaten, and divide in order to obtain the nomination. President Bush and the neoconservative movement have greatly harmed this country by the creation of an imperial-like presidency. This election is not just about whether a Democrat or Republican wins but if the checks and balances are restored to the three branches of government. The framers of the Constitution were in such fear of an imperial president that mechanisms for impeachment are prominently and explicitly included in the Constitution. If Hillary Clinton is willing to use lies and deceit to win the Democratic nomination, what assurances do we have that she will not continue to use them once she is president?
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/03/why-h ...

<snip>

"Her response to being caught lying to a military audience, when she invented a story about being under sniper fire in Bosnia, was to say it wasn't surprising she got some things wrong, seeing how she spoke millions of words every day. What a magnificent idea, that if you say lots of words some of them are bound to be fantastic lies. So if you listen carefully to horse-racing commentators they say things like "And it's Teddy's Boy still leading three furlongs out as they come up to the fourth last fence with Nip and Tuck two lengths behind by the way I fought a tiger once, punched it clean out and they're all safely over."

<lots more>
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/opinion/article3 ...



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:52 PM
Response to Reply #23
25. Seriously? She said she said "millions of words" every day?
That's bizarre. If she spoke at a normal conversational rate for 24 hours -- without stopping to eat, drink, clear her throat, or go to the can -- the best she could manage would be 250,000 words in a day.

To say over 1 million words in a 24-hour period, she'd have to talk like a dolphin -- and still couldn't eat, drink, or go to the can.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:45 AM
Response to Reply #25
34. That is hyperbole, not a lie.

If I say, "I'm so hungry I could eat a horse," that is not a lie. Obviously I could not really sit down and eat an entire horse. It is hyperbole making the point that I am really hungry.

So when Hillary says she speaks a million words a day she obviously means she talks a lot. When she says, "I may have said the wrong thing because I speak millions of words a day," you don't really have to spin her "millions of words a day" into a "lie". Reword that as, "I may have said the wrong thing because I say so much a day," and you have no hyperbole, yet the statement is still a horrible statement.

When the opponent says something really, really bad. Don't make up shit about it. Because then the argument becomes the shit you made up instead of what they said that was really, really bad.


"Americans wouldn't pick lettuce for $50 an hour." - John McCain, 2006, no spin or snark necessary. Just let his words stand on their own.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #34
35. Clarification please
you don't really have to spin her "millions of words a day" into a "lie".

Please point out where I "spun" anything
Please point out where I said it was a "lie"

Please stop attacking people for things they never said.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:39 PM
Response to Original message
24. That's Not True! Hillary Doesn't Make Up All Her Lies!
She just reads some of them during her speeches.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PetraPooh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:56 PM
Response to Original message
27. Hey, HEY! Shush now; I'm trying to research the best next lie for Hillary to tell.
It needs to sound strong, and caring, and like she's an average American, and the wording has to be just right so she can then claim that she simply misspoke because she was tired. THIS IS HARD WORK PEOPLE! Stop distracting me with all this negativity about the negativity of these lying yarns!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:02 PM
Response to Original message
28. I'm ashamed at some of you!
It's as if Hillary made up all those lies on her own!


She paid good money to grossly overpaid political consultants that didn't have a clue as to how one gets laid in a whorehouse to make some of those lies up for her!


Sheesh! Get it right!!!!11!!!1
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:09 PM
Response to Original message
29. Why would you ask me if my father was a woodworker?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:34 AM
Response to Original message
32. LOL!
:kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
caseycoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 12:33 PM
Response to Original message
36. It's because we are
just a rotten bunch of truthniks!
We can't help ourselves!
:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Araxen Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 12:38 PM
Response to Original message
37. lol!
K&R!
:kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 01:12 PM
Response to Original message
39. Greetings from the Underworld!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 16th 2024, 03:07 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC