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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:45 PM
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So how does this primary end?
I really have no idea. Anyone care to opine?
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polpilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:46 PM
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1. Obama graciously accepts. McCain stomping begins.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:47 PM
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3. I see it that way as well.......
McCain gets stomped around, and become unable to talk.....except to say, "my Friends".....and not much else.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 09:10 PM
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11. LOL....he always says, "my frends"...... WTF is that?
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:50 AM
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28. He'd prefer to say "my subjects"
But his handler Joe Lieberman keeps correcting him.
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BklynChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:47 PM
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2. (1) when hillary drops out, (2) the SDs put one of them over the edge, or (3) at the convention
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:54 PM
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4. When Hillary refuses to loan more millions to her failed campaign.
The way I see it, she has been given through all the Primary votes-June 3rd-by the Party leaders. At that point, she'll concede or face the embarrassment of a "Superdelegate Primary" ending for her. Either way, it will end for Hillary at the first of June.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 09:00 PM
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7. I kinda think it will go to June
all the way.
Unless perhaps if Obama really sweeps in PA. If he wins big there that might end it early.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:54 PM
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5. Obama gets the girl, Hillary moves to Alaska, McCain goes to prison,
and they save the youth center.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:56 PM
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6. LOL!
How American! :rofl:
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 09:02 PM
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8. Obama wins PA, Clinton exits a few days later, GE starts effectively in May
DU goes into presumptive nominee mode for a week.

People start paying attention to the congressional races (Topic: WTF, Al Franken is down in the polls!)

Right wing talk shows go nuts as they panic over having to face Obama.

Cartman gets kidnapped by aliens again.

etc...
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 09:07 PM
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9. SD's continue to come out for Obama thru the Pennsylvania .....
North Carolina ... and the rest of the primaries .... Between what he gains in those primaries and the SD's, he gets within striking distance to put him over the top in one of the last couple of primaries. One of the last states puts him over. Don't ask me what State but this is how it will happen ..... Howard Dean said whomever the candidate ends up being then .... gets to decide how to seat Florida and Michigan. Obama will seat them and then it's on to thumping McCain.

note: he will be over the top of the 'hill' without Florida and Michigan. Peace.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 09:08 PM
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10. Dude... who knows?
I think anything less than 60% in Pennsylvania would be a DISASTER for her. Even 60% would ratchet up the percent of votes she'd have to win in EVERY other state.

The problem here is that she can LOOK like she's getting ahead, but REALLY she's falling behind... or at least not closing the gap.

The problem with THAT problem is that it will be even harder to call for her to drop out after a "win" in Pennsylvania of even a narrow amount. If she got 55% in Pennsylvania, she would have to get 65% in EVERY other state to go into the convention with a lead. Any "wins" of under 65% would set the bar even higher for remaining contests, but let's call a spade a spade: she's not going to GET 65% in Oregon, North Carolina, Montana, South Dakota, or even Indiana.

The question is where the crippling truth will set in. Unfortunately I don't think Pennsylvania is going to provide the wooden stake. North Carolina might do it, but man... she's not going down too quickly.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 09:14 PM
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12. The supers are watching PA.
If she does not Blowout in PA I think multiple supers will go to Obama further weakening the plan to get super delegates to switch.

Besides a small win in PA may net Obama a delegate gain which will make her look silly if she calls PA a win.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 09:29 PM
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15. I noticed that the New York Times has Texas striped
:P
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:05 PM
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16. I dont read the New York times.
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:51 AM
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29. You should.
It's a good paper.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 09:14 PM
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13. And upon crunching the numbers for a "realistic" scenario in PE, NC, and IN
Where Hillary gets 55, 45, and 55% respectively...

She would have to get 85% in EVERY remaining state to pull even with Obama before the convention. This would be IMPOSSIBLE.

Even if she got 60% in all three contests, she'd have to have 66% in every remaining state in order to pull even. NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 09:16 PM
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14. Hillary overtakes Obama in cash raised after selling millions of her newly designed bumpersticker
and Obama quits in shame.




:hide:

Just kidding! About everything.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:14 PM
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17. Clinton takes the nomination having lost in every way but SDs... Denver goes berserker
and all the young Obama supporters go away pissed.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:15 PM
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18. KO had it right last night
that scene from What's Up Doc?/
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:16 PM
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19. OR, FL and MI litigate until Convention, Obama gets the Nomination, Clinton litigates more...
after staging a walk out leading FL and MI delegations...

Supreme Court decides it in some weird way

and it's resolved just in time for McCains Inauguration.
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kwenu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:17 PM
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20. With Bill asking Hillary for a divorce.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:18 PM
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21. Hillary will no doubt win in overtime
unless Obama drops out after PA, which could definitely happen.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:44 AM
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25. why would he drop out?
Unless he tanks, or implodes, I doubt he would walk away.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:18 PM
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22. Which primary ... the PA primary? Well, that ends with me, exhausted, eating stale donuts
... at the local Democratic headquarters.

As for the rest of it, who knows????
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:19 PM
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23. I've decided this is a fun thread k/r
yup
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:57 PM
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33. yes
:thumbsup:
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:47 AM
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26. I honestly have no idea
If Obama wins PA, it's over. But that is unlikely, and I honestly have no idea how it will play out. I just hope Clinton is not pressured to drop out prematurely...that will hurt Obama and hurt the party's chances of coming together in the fall.
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:49 AM
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27. Hillary drops out after losing Indiana and N. Carolina
She will win PA by about 6% points, but lose the delegate count.

Then she will lose N Carolina badly. Her money will be gone and she will bow out on May 8th.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:12 AM
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30. In a smoke filled ski lodge overlooking the Denver skyline where Hillary charms all and life goes on
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lefty from jersey Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:28 AM
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31. Calling the adults
It ends when the adults (assuming there are any) realize that winning the GE is the prize. Hillary can not win because she is Hillary and Obama can't win because he is a put up phony by the Chicago political machine. He will be portrayed as a race hustler and that nutty preacher and angry wife are going to turn off too many independents.

They will reach down and hopefully find a pair in their somewhere and do the bold thing and the right thing. Nominate a candidate without the mess and negatives that Hillary and Obama will have by August. A candidate that is committed to the values of our party and the interest of our country. Get these two opportunists the hell out of here. They both make me ill. Evan Bayh anyone?
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:30 AM
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32. "Not with a bang but with a whimper." (NT)
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:01 PM
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34. HRC's campaign winning Pennsylvania by only 5-6%
hopelessly mired in debt suspends her campaign. Superdeligates sweep in almost unanimously endorsing Obama and we all focus on kicking some republican ass in November.

Its over - she lost - deal with it.
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