Is PA Diebold country?

[SoCalDem]

Remember.. Fast Eddie's in charge there.. Maybe HRH will win PA :rofl:

[crankychatter]

1. it needs to be close for vote-flipping to work

yup, paperless, E-voting machines... closed source, no paper trail and therefore, no recount veracity... Constitutionally guaranteed and out the window with HAVA.

NH all over again.

[BumRushDaShow]

2. Not in Philly.

We use these: http://www.phillyelection.com/engweb.htm

[crankychatter]

5. no paper trail, closed source Emachines - Windows based Hackable Tallying

http://www.verifiedvoting.org/article.php?id=5179

Danaher (Guardian) ELECTronic Machine
Full Information Sheet
Name / Model: ELECTronic / 1242 (a/k/a Shouptronic 1242)<1>
Vendor: Guardian Voting Systems, Inc. (division of Danaher Controls, Inc.)

Federally-Qualified Voter-Verified Paper Audit Trail Capability:

NONE

[Barack_America]

7. Santorum's gone.

That's the only thing that gives me faith that the votes in Philly are accurately counted.

[crankychatter]

9. Seattle Stranger had a contest to Name a deviant Sexual Act after Santorum

so until the end of time, if you google his name, you'll be completely grossed out.

[BumRushDaShow]

10. There's a piece of paper that comes out of it with the final results.

It's not completely paperless and the sheets are turned in by the poll workers.

[newmajority]

3. Rendell is going to try something, theres no question about it.

Hopefully the massive turnout of new voters (and ex-republicans who aren't Dildoheads) will overpower his DLC criminal plot.

[stillcool]

4. Here's a link to PA, and the voting systems..

different counties use.
http://www.verifiedvoting.org/verifier/map.php?&topic_string=5std&year=2008&state=Pennsylvania

[hogwyld]

6. It's a given that Fast Eddie will deliver PA to HRC

The question is by how much?

[SoCalDem]

8. BUT BUT.. remember Tommy Thompson was supposed to deliver WI to junior

and he didn't.. Stranger things have happened..

but in any event, anything close is a win for O..

In Nov '07 he was polling 15% to HRH's 48%..and look how LITTLE she's gained..after all these months and all the "words" and all the cash:)

[AllentownJake]

11. My guess is

That there will be a shortage of voting machines in certain areas with certain demographics. I think that's more of a productive way to short the vote than playing with the actual machines.