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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 05:17 PM
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Obama spends more because he got MORE DONATIONS!
Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 05:55 PM by Truth Hurts A Lot
I have noticed a little bit of bitterness when Hillary surrogates (Chuck Fraud, etc.) describe how much she's being outspent by Obama in PA.

Well, duh! Obama raised 40 million just this past month--his donors WANT him to spend the money! What do you want him to do? Sit on it?

He's running against a former POPULAR president who is well known around the country and the world.

/mini rant off :)
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 05:19 PM
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1. Yep and no donations from fat cats either
the people are speaking here, not corporations. He should be praised and not vilified for this.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 05:31 PM
Response to Reply #1
10. That's not true! Stop drinking the Kool-Aid.
I heard that almost 1/2 came from big donors etc.
Don't ask for a link! Don't have one. Just remember reading it somewhere on DU.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 05:53 PM
Response to Reply #10
17. that is such bullshit. if you can't provide proof, REAL PROOF
sans Taylor Marsh (who has been thoroughly discredited) or Larry Johnson, then you shouldn't post shit that you can't back up. It's irresponsible.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:18 PM
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25. It was posted by a fellow DUer on a report...not one of those bias journalist(?),
By the way... it isn't irresponsible to tell you what I read...especially when I told you I had no proof and it was something I read. You go find it for yourself if you're so interested. I just KNOW what I read. I have no links to myself. I better not catch you on here posting your opinion of the facts without a link. I'll be watching and ready to pounce.
Watch out! :grr:
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:45 PM
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34. It is when you headline it with "That's not true! Stop drinking the Kool-Aid"...
That's irresponsible.

Without confirmation, or at least a rational argument, you're posting a statement of fact with absolutely no evidence or supporting rationalization.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:46 AM
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44. I'll post my opinion anytime I want without having to PROVE ANYTHING to you.
If you weren't so busy consuming the spiked Kool-Aid you would have checked the facts out before you accused me of posting without confirmation. You go and find out who contributed to Obama and see for yourself. THEY DIDN'T ALL COME FROM LITTLE 100 DOLLAR DONATIONS. The facts are almost half came from big donations. Now go do your homework...I'm going to bed.

"You people" wouldn't have much to post on this board if you were only allowed to post what you could prove were true instead of mostly lies and propaganda from the BIAS left wing media and internet blogs...which are sooooo accurate.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:55 AM
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46. Here's your confirmation!
Guess I wasn't rationalizing after all. Here's the evidence and facts.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24060056/
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:51 PM
Response to Reply #25
38. This is so typical of how the Hillary campaign has been run...
innuendo and lies. Shame on you Auntie Bush....Shame on you.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:28 AM
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43. POT CALLING KETTLE BLACK! Shame on you!
Obamites just run on innuendo and lies...damn lies. Almost everything they accuse the Clintons of are pure lies and exaggerations and I'm frankly sick of it! Like the Clintons are racist! What hogwash! Besides what the hell does the Hillary campaign have to do with anything I say or posted? You are absolutely pathetic. Typical Obie cynical hateful thinking.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:51 AM
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45. Here's your proof! REAL PROOF
Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 10:57 AM by Auntie Bush
Do I get an apology for calling my post bullshit? :shrug:

Duh! Edited to add the link.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24060056/
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:38 PM
Response to Reply #10
33. It's very convenient to make a claim that you can't prove isn't it.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:05 AM
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50. See, you people don't /won't to believe Obama lies just as well as
Hillary...only you are blinded by the light. I think you've had enough Kool-Aid by now. Stop water boarding yourself!

Check this out and see who's drinking what.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24060056/
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:13 PM
Response to Reply #10
36. I thought you were being satirical
or mocking Clinton supporters... But apparently you're serious?
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:55 PM
Response to Reply #10
39. you have to provide the link or it will just be written off as bitterness.
link please.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:58 PM
Response to Reply #10
41. He actually does get money from Wall Street fat cats
--but 80% of it is from small donors.
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kmsarvis Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:12 AM
Response to Reply #10
52. LOL!!!!!
"I JUST REMEMBER READING IT SOMEWHERE ON DU".:rofl:
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futureliveshere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 05:19 PM
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2. exactly right...imagine if the situ was reversed...its not like the Clintons didnt spend..
In fact they spent too much, too soon and are now reaping what they sowed.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 05:20 PM
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3. The nomination is for sale?
The highest stack of money wins? How un-democratic.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 05:26 PM
Response to Reply #3
6. You might need this.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 05:26 PM
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7. Hillary should have called for a pledge to put a cap on primary spending b/f hand.
Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 05:30 PM by Dr Fate
If she didnt, then why?

Perhaps b/c she predicted that she would be the one with the most cash to campaign with?

Fair enough- however, Hillary's campaign was poorly planned and that was not to be- while Obama is winning by the rules-rules that until recently, Hillary never had a problem with.
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 05:28 PM
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8. If that's the case, why doesn't Hillary just raise more money?
Obama didn't start out-raising Hillary by these huge amounts until he started kicking her butt in so many states. Your implication that he is "buying" the nomination is bullshit.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 05:46 PM
Response to Reply #3
15. Everything in this country is about the money
is that a suprise to you, cause it certainly isn't anything new.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 05:56 PM
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18. lol. right
You can't be serious. LOL
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 05:58 PM
Response to Reply #3
19. "un-democratic"....a term you guys are throwing about a lot lately.
caucuses are "undemocratic" (because hillary can't win them); super d's are "undemocratic" (if they don't endorse hillary); progressive media is "undemocratic" (if they don't fawn over hillary)....blah, blah, blah.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 05:23 PM
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4. Yeah: Obama is outspending Hillary 3 to 1 because he's out-earning her, 3 to 1.
HRC's camp is so caught up in the whining, they don't even realize when they're tooting Obama's horn!
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 05:25 PM
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5. The outspent crap they are using now is only harming Clinton in my view.
Makes her look weak and makes it worse for her because it makes it seem like she does not need donations.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 05:30 PM
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9. I guess he could give some of the money back to even things up
or better yet gold plated campaign buttons for everyone who campaigned. Maybe that would be a good way to blow some of this cash.
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mirrera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 05:32 PM
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11. EXACTLY!!! He is out spending because he is OUT RAISING! n/t
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flor de jasmim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 05:34 PM
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12. I have one word for Hillary: IOWA!! How much was it she spent there?!
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:21 PM
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27. I have another word for Hillary: CALIFORNIA!! How much was it that she spent there?
Hint: A LOT.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 05:36 PM
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13. It's not fair
Obama should agree to stop fund raising to let her catch up. That's the only fair solution.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 05:49 PM
Response to Reply #13
16. LOL, yeah cause we all know that
if the positions were reversed she would do the same for him.
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Growler Donating Member (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 05:45 PM
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14. It's a war of attrition
Not only does Obama have more money to spend, he knows that spending a lot of it now forces Hillary to spend money she does not have simply to keep from falling too far behind. She cannot spend nothing and expect to win by a large margin in PA, and Obama knows this. Hillary's campaign is nearly bankrupt, so Obama's huge cash outlay is simply another nail in Hillary's coffin.

It does not matter that Obama is spending nearly 3x as much as Hillary in PA -- like the OP said, he has the money to spend, and she doesn't. He has shown that he can spend insane amounts this month, and raise all he needs (and more) next. It would be stupid for him to sit on his money now. Spend it while you have it, and force your opponent to spend money he/she doesn't have.

It's another sign that Obama's campaign knows exactly what it's doing -- even if he loses PA. Anything less than a crushing loss to Hillary is shocking, considering her huge lead only a few weeks ago.
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 05:58 PM
Response to Reply #14
20. Yeah. He's burying her here. She can't keep up with the spending unless she stiffs every vendor,
even the large ones she favors. Those poor small vendors. Don't know what hit them.
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:01 PM
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21. Did you say more? OK, another $50 coming up.
I haven't given this much to a candidate since...well, Bill Clinton in 92.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:10 PM
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22. LOL. The irony! nt
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:19 PM
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26. I'm there with you. I'm throwing in another $ 50 right now, another $100 for the Million/Minute
later this month.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:16 PM
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23. Well said! nt
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Levgreee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:18 PM
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24. Maybe Hillary should have spent less on Mark Penn
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:23 PM
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28. hilary's latest Whine and Cheeze fest.
Thinking they're talking to idiots like themselves.
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:25 PM
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29. He's running against a former POPULAR president who is well known around the country and the world?
Wow, way to minimize and dismiss her. What's with that?
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:12 PM
Response to Reply #29
35. actually, it was an honest mistake (or Freudian slip)?
I just noticed that. Sorry
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:19 PM
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37. LOL. You know what Freud said about honest mistakes, don't you?
There aren't any.
:hi:
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KaptBunnyPants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:58 PM
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30. Campaigns can do that when they are not in debt.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:33 PM
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31. kick anbd see below for more of the action
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moc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:35 PM
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32. Hillary isn't spending it because she doesn't have it to spend.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:14 PM
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40. it's just so unfair!
Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 10:14 PM by CreekDog
he's only winning because he's more popular! :rant:
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:29 PM
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42. K and R
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:58 AM
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47. Yeah, from bundlers for oil companies!

He is so NOT the Mr. Clean you guys think he is.

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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:01 AM
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48. Ummm, anyone can be a "bundler" you know plenty of people you can get 25$ contributions from...
...the MsM articles on "bundlers" is misleading to the nth degree.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:04 AM
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49. I cant wait to see his ads showing Hillary's incriminating Colobmia trade deal and Nafta deals
Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 11:05 AM by quantass
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:06 AM
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51. BO's campaign has show more class than all the campaigns this century IMHO, he hasn't gone after her
...as much as I would but that's a good thing.

I think the drawn out primary is good, they're dem registration rate has doubled in every state they're in since Texas
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