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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:35 PM
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Why Hillary's Supporters Need to Dig Deeper In Their Pockets.
Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 07:16 PM by David Zephyr
I admire Hillary's supporters who are digging into their pockets to send her donations now that her fat cats have all topped out in how much they can give to her dying campaign. I really gotta hand it to them for sticking with her.

It takes real fortitude to write a check to further the ambitions of a political couple who made over $100 million in the last seven years, but who only will "loan" their campaign money from their own pockets to fund that ambition. It takes real loyalty to ignore the fact that the Clintons could easily write a big fat check without calling it a "loan" to be paid back at a later date.

After all, that's what other mega-millionaires like Mitt Romney and Ross Perot did. They didn't ask their working class supporters to pay them back for the money they kicked in. I can't help but wonder what the interest rate on that "loan" is. 5%? 6%? 7%? Although, I imagine it doesn't matter how much the rate is to her donors.

It takes real dedication to write a check to the Clinton's campaign knowing that millions of those dollars (yes, millions) are going to creepy people like Mark Penn who "work" for the Clintons and who get paid before Hillary's working-class staffers even get their own health-care bills paid. And since Mark Penn was "fired" (it all depends on what the definition of "fired" is, I guess) and is still on the payroll, I guess that Hillary's supporters will need to still dig deeper to help Mr. Penn continue to live his high-rolling, jet-setting lifestyle in order to help Hillary while he is still "fired".

Yes, I have to give it up in complete respect for Hillary's donors. Sacrificing their own hard earned dollars to underwrite the high living of the Clintons and their advisers while her campaign shows no signs of promise whatsoever is a real testament to her supporters.

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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:36 PM
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1. dude, do you have some kind of psychological defect?
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:43 PM
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6. LOL
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:49 PM
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Well, you can't contradict what he says, so you insult him personally.
What, is he "morally or intellectually confused," Secretary Rumsfeld?
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:16 PM
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23. Well, you go to the primaries with the candidate you have...
Stuff happens...


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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:51 PM
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15. I'm "crazy" with admiration for her supporters.
I am in awe.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:27 PM
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39. Here you go, ruggerson: Obama is 44!

Hillary: What do I do now?
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:38 PM
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2. A big ouch, but on the mark
:thumbsup:
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:38 PM
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3. two words for you
Awesome Post

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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:41 PM
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4. How many online donations does it take to pay Penn his $100,000.00 a day salary?
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Veronica.Franco Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:37 PM
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24. Perhaps Penn ...
Should donate the millions made in the Columbian deal? ... I don't see giving Clinton donations when she has fat cats all around her weighing her down ...
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Alii Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:29 AM
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40. Ok,
but what 'bout hubby's millions made on the Colombian deal?
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:41 PM
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5. Yes, it's serious chutzpah to ask their retired base on fixed incomes to send them money.
Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 06:42 PM by TexasObserver
You're 65, you live on a fixed income of $14,000 a year, but why not eat cat food for a month so you can send Hill and Bill $100 to help them pay for Hillary's fancy hotel rooms, corporate jets, and $500 haircuts?

Not a loan, like they're doing, but a gift. Because they need the money!!

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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:45 PM
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9. You can eat cat-food so that Mark Penn can eat caviar.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:49 PM
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13. Have you seen Penn?
More like cavier on pork rinds.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 08:38 PM
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31. Mark Penn has a big ($6 Million) appetite for Hillary's donor money.
Months ago, it was reported that Hillary's campaign had already paid pollster Mark Penn's firm $4.3 million, with another $1.5 million owed, for consulting services, mail and other campaign "activities".
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:54 PM
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34. pay the vendors before the collection agencies make headlines
and let that fat fucker go.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 08:58 PM
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32. Ha
My visual imagination is nonexistant, but I can almost see that
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:47 PM
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27. Same diff...Sort of..
:shrug:
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:49 PM
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Agree with the OP, but a question about those $500.00 haircuts
How much was Edwards haircut? It may have been the thing that turned a lot of folks against him. Do you have any info on her haircut costs?
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:01 PM
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38. $1500 For Hair Styling - $4500 For Professional Makeup Consultations...
Per Matt Taibbi.
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PetraPooh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:58 PM
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16. She pays $500 for that awful helmet hair cut?? !!! n/t
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:06 PM
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20. I'm guessing. Look at how well the coloring is done. She's gotta be 100% gray.
That's quite a dye job she has done. She's not even blonde. She was dishwater brown before going gray, and has dyed it for decades. She has to have that hair done once a week, or the gray would be showing through.

She's dedicated to bringing back the Mullet!
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:55 PM
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36. Oh, please! Her hair looks fine
--says this 60 yr old with Clairol Medium Golden Brown hair.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:49 AM
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45. Yes, her hair looks fine. The point was the COST to her campaign, passed on to contributors.
I'm sure you don't think she does her own hair. She has someone do it, and it has to be done at least weekly, or her real hair color would show through at the roots.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 09:50 PM
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48. That's part of campaigning. If you are a politician at a national level--
--you don't do cheap clothes and hair.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:11 PM
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21. Oh dear
:rofl:

"helmet hair"

:rofl:
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:44 PM
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7. You're probably going to inspire some of the Clinton supporters to donate
Just warning you. If someone wrote a post like this about Obama that would be my reaction.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:48 PM
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11. Good. She desperately needs them too
What's more important? Your mortgage, or Hillary's campaign?

Dig deep.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:49 PM
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12. Precisely, sniffa.
:)
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:44 PM
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8. It reminds me of people in the middle ages giving up everything and joining monastic orders...
while the pope lived in splendor greater than that of any king.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:47 PM
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10. A 1.9MM Southside mansion is a hut compared to that.
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:49 PM
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14. It reminds me of... hypocritical Obama supporters.
They go nuts when she loaned herself 5 million dollars. Unfair, blah blah. Obama's money comes from the people. Blah, blah, blah.

But when Clinton's money comes from the people? NOOOOO -- she needs to self finance her campaign.

Rediculous.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:00 PM
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17. Dig deep
She needs to replenish her savings account!
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:01 PM
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18. Only Unwanted Visitors Spell RIDICULOUS With An E
See ya.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:13 PM
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22. He also spelled "no" with, like, 4 extra O's.
What a moran.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:49 PM
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28. Dead give away, isn't it?
<cough> freep <cough> er...


Just kidding. :)
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PetraPooh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:02 PM
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19. I heard a few snickers, and some judgementality that it was a loan and not an investment/
donation to her own campaign; but I never heard/read anything suggesting that she shouldn't spend her own money, just that she shouldn't "loan" it. And that it was saying something really cool that Obama didn't need to because he had so much support.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:41 PM
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25. What a dumbass post.
And why did I waste my time reading it?
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:15 PM
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35. Dig deep.....
:hi:
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:44 PM
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26. ...
:popcorn:
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:59 PM
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29. actually it has to be a loan as a legal matter
and yes, you should know that. Kerry had to loan money to his campaign, Romney to his, and anyone else to theirs.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:51 PM
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33. Interesting
If I understand this correctly, then a candidate is held to the same contribution limit as anyone else even when it's to their own campaign.
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Alii Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:59 AM
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41. Loans?
Edited on Thu Apr-10-08 01:18 AM by Alii
Lets see, Romney loaned (donated) over $35 million to his own campaign. Had he thought that he could have stayed in the running he would have "loaned" himself even more.

http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/01/31/romney-loans-18-million-dollars-to-his-campaign/

$5 million vs. potential $100 million +...rather paltry. Lack of confidence?

I just "loaned" myself $50 million for my campaign. Now I'm forced out of the race. Just how am I going to repay my loan? Please don't answer, that's a rhetorical question. Make "speeches" in Dubai? Colombia?
















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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:22 AM
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44. clearly the loan often doesn't get paid back
but they are recorded as loans nonetheless.
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Alii Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 03:13 PM
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47. Yep!
Semantics and the fine print.

I have no qualms with candidates not having to finance their own campaign, even Hillary. If they were marketable they wouldn't have to. The core of the issue though, is as someone mentioned, Hillary was initially financed by a few "fat cats" donating huge amounts of monies whereas Barack was basically financed by millions with small donations. And even then, that might be acceptable. However, it is her gross mismanagement of her campaign staff and finances that makes it somewhat ludicrous that she is appealing to the masses, the poor, to help finance her failing candidacy. C'mon, donate, we need her to pay her debts to our universities, et al., in California, et al. Oh, and don't forget health insurance payments, et al.
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uberblonde Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 08:13 PM
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30. Solutions are still cheaper than hope.
But stay classy, Dave!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:56 PM
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37. And hilary's solution is to lie which is
uber expensive.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:09 AM
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42. The Audacity of Hopelessness. Priceless
:hi:
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:10 AM
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43. Paying for your own campaign makes you look weak. Clinton is already insecure about her strength.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:55 AM
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46. And $500 per ticket for Elton?
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