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acrosstheuniverse Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:55 PM
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BREAKING~~HILLARY ATTENDS EVENT WHERE FUNDRAISER ANNOUNCES TO AMERICA: "I SAY TO HELL WITH THEM!"
Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 10:56 PM by acrosstheuniverse
OMG HOW DARE SHE ATTEND THIS ANTI-AMERICAN EVENT!!!!

TO HELL WITH AMERICA??? SEND AMERICA TO HELL???

SHE NEEDS TO REJECT AND DENOUNCE THIS EVIL MADMAN IMMEDIATELY AND ENTIRELY!!!


http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0408/Elton_John_To_hell_with_them.html
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:57 PM
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1. OMG! SOMEONE CALL HANNITY!
:rofl:
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:06 PM
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25. Oh, I'm sure he'll be all over it
He wont pass up any chance to bash either Hillary or Obama.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:35 AM
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69. believe it or not, some people don't realize this is satire
it seems clear to me. its a joke, folks, or as Bill Clinton says, just chill.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:58 PM
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2. He wasn't talking about America - quit lying!!!
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:59 PM
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3. You're right. He was only talking about American men.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:01 PM
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8. People of both genders engage in it
People in all political parties engage in it.

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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:02 PM
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11. Typical American men. nt
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:02 PM
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12. He was not.
Do you get off on making something out of nothing?
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:07 PM
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27. Exactly - he was talking about people who don't vote for Hillary
There are plenty of women who aren't voting for Hillary. Bunch of self-hating misogynists. :sarcasm:
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:23 PM
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55. Really? I thought he was talking about anyone that didn't vote for HRC.
I'm a woman, and apparently a misogynist :shrug:
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:35 AM
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68. Oh Geez
:wringing hands: I must hate myself, being a woman....
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:59 PM
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4. He said to hell with mysogynists, not to hell with America
But you know that already.

There is still a good deal of misogyny in America. There is also a good deal of racism. Both are issues. And to hell with people who engage in both.

Or are you FOR misogyny?
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:02 PM
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16. Elton John...
...implied that people who were not for Hillary--are mysoginists.

To hell with us, right? We support Obama, therefore we must hate women. Is that how it is?

That's what he was insinuating.

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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:03 PM
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18. No he specifically said "some people in america" he did not say "Obama supporters"
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:08 PM
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29. Why would he even say anything like that?
He's implying that people who don't support her are doing so because they hate women.

There's no evidence that people aren't supporting her because she's a woman!

There's no need to even suggest something like that!

Why create such divides and burn bridges, when it's just not necessary?
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:03 AM
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60. That's your not so good interpretation.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:59 PM
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5. Yeah, it's time we sent that Madman BACK Across the Water.
Which was a damn good song, but Elton really shouldn't have said that shit.

What are the odds that FAUX will play that clip to death for weeks like they did the Rev. Wright clips?
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:02 PM
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13. Not very high.
Elton John is already defined. Although they might be able to frame it as some kind of "Gay Issue." I dunno. Never doubt the evil and nefarious minds at Faux. Hannity won't run with it because it doesn't involve minorities. O'Liely might though...
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:02 PM
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14. Yeah screw him and all his damn activism... send him home
Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 11:03 PM by Marrah_G
We certainly don't need him here fighting for GBLT rights and the eradication of AIDS.

That MADMAN!
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:04 PM
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19. Wright did lots of good things too.
Did that stop the media from crucifying him in order to hurt Obama?
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:06 PM
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24. The media often makes big deals over nothing.
Dukakis, Kerry, Gore.... this is not new.

Aren't you better then the media?
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:59 PM
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6. she needs to return the money raised at the fund raiser
and she must reject and denounce Sir Elton.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:01 PM
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7. Funny that Elton, who is married, would support a woman that opposes his marriage
Let's face it, when it comes to marriage equality for LGBTs, both Hillary and Obama fall way short of the mark.

On the other hand, McCain is more opposed to LGBT marriage equality than Dick Cheney!
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:01 PM
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9. OMG how many years has Hillary been listening to his music???
knowing that he hates America!!!
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jezebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:02 PM
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10. OMG did she get up and leave. Because you know she said you can't just sit and listen. I'm sure I
heard her say that about Wright. Hopefully tomorrow Obama can come out and say Elton wouldn't have been my fundraiser. ;)
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:03 PM
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17. Hillary doesn't support haters...
...as far as I know.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:06 PM
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23. I KNOW! And she knew about his controversial views!
Why does Hillary hate America? :)
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jezebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:13 PM
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36. I betcha she listened to his cds for over 20 YEARS too. cds and records and probably even cassettes.
Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 11:13 PM by jezebel
omg.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:24 PM
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57. I bet if you played his records backward
"DAMN AMERICANS to HELL" is said....:wow:

I wonder if a good investigative journalist would come out with that 30 sec looped sound byte to play it over and over and over again...
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:02 PM
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15. Stop yelling!
It makes you look like an idiot.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:04 PM
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20. tsk tsk Hillary, accepting $ from someone who "would ban religion"
Not that I question the reason that Elton John said that.

But still, if he curses America, and if he would ban religion, he must be bad, right?

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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:05 PM
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21. Oh for crying out loud. He clearly meant the hell with misogynists.
Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 11:06 PM by lizzy
Get a clue already.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:05 AM
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61. You're trying to reason with brainless people?
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:05 PM
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22. Elton John says Americans are sexist people!
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:06 PM
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26. And you think they are not?
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acrosstheuniverse Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:07 PM
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28. It's not fair to single out this country
Women's liberation worldwide BEGAN here. Nuff said.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:11 PM
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32. Oh dear lord.
He is a singer. He can single out any country he damn well pleases.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:43 AM
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70. Pastor Wright was
just preaching in his church, he can preach how the spirit moves him. Not like he is running for office or anything. see any similarities?
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:09 PM
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31. He also called America "racist" because of American Idol a few years ago
He claimed that Americans were racist because black contestants were getting voted off American Idol over supposedly worse singers.

Except that people don't vote people "off" that show - they vote for their favorite person, and the person with the lowest votes goes home. But we're still a bunch of racist fucks because we didn't all vote for the black contestants.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:11 PM
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33. There are many posters right here on DU that claim US is racist
day in and day out.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:18 PM
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45. I'll agree there is a lot of racism and sexism in this country
But using "American Idol" to prove racism?

And not voting for Hillary equals sexism?

Seems that both examples kind of really downplay the real racism and sexism that exists in this country.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:53 AM
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71. I've maybe watched a collective 15 minutes of the entire existence of American Idol
But even I know that Ruben Stoddard (I think that was his name?) was a FAR better singer than Clay Aiken. Maybe there's some truth to that allegation of racism? :shrug:
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:16 PM
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40. He Damned Americans to hell.......
:wow:
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:09 PM
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30. Hillary said, "He would not be MY pas.....er, fundraiser!".
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:12 PM
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34. and John Lennon would agree with him
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:13 PM
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37. MLK agreed with Wright.
But that didn't stop everyone from attacking him did it?
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:56 AM
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72. NEVER let me hear you using John Lennon's name to shill for Hillary Clinton again!
That is just complete blasphemy. As much as John loved New York City, he probably would have left for good, if he had been there when she voted for the Patriot Act and the Iraq War. :grr:
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:12 PM
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35. To hell with America? Isnt that a round about way of saying
DAMN AMERICA????
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:16 PM
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39. But he didn't say that.
He said to hell with misogynists. He never said to hell with America.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:17 PM
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41. what is damning then?
you damn people to where? please explain.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:20 PM
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49. I'll try to be more clear
He did not say "To hell with America"

He said there were misogynists in America...and we all know there are....just turn on faux news. He said to hell with them. I agree.

If he said there were racists in America...and we all know there are and said 'To hell with them" would you not agree?

I certainly would.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:07 AM
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63. He did not say that.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:15 PM
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38. Sir Elton was talking about those bastards that hate women, and
I post a lil Jewish proverb here for all you men that believe you can have physical control over a woman.

" Be very careful if you make a woman cry, because G-d counts her tears.
The woman came out of a man's rib. Not from his feet to be walked on.
Not from his head to be superior, but from the side to be equal.
Under the arm to be protected, and next to the heart to be loved."

Shalom
Ben David
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:18 PM
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44. Guess it is okay for Sir Elton to say it
he is not an American...have you been listening to this person for over 20 yrs?
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:17 PM
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42. Nice try.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:17 PM
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43. She must RENOUNCE this at once. This anti American hate speech. Why didn't she get up and leave?
This comes from a foreign national. What kind of judgment is that? She can never win a general election. This will come back to her again and again. My gosh, Wright was a decorated Marine. This guy is a singer. I think Hillary has a patriotism problem.
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jezebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:20 PM
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52. Oh my gosh, that is right. Elton is a foreigner isn't he. Could this perhaps be TREASON? ;) nt
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:19 PM
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46. I think it's extremely sad that the only person speaking out against American misogyny...
is a washed over gay male musician from Great Britain.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:19 PM
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47. Yes, and he's not even American. An agent of a foreign government.
And Hillary dares to insinuate that Obama is anti-American. :rofl:
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:19 PM
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48. What a BULLSHIT thread. He said to hell with misogynists. Not Americans.
Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 11:20 PM by Skip Intro

He did not say "God Damn America."

He did not make Hillary out to be some evil slave-driver because she's white.

Your OP is bullshit.

But you knew that when you posted it, didn't you?
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:20 PM
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50. HE INSULTED AMERICANS AND THEREFORE AMERICA!
:grr:
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:21 PM
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53. Get a grip.
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:20 PM
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51. If your hair is on fire, I suggest you put down the matches
Elton John was referring to misogynists when he said, "to hell with them."
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:22 PM
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54. OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE SHE STOOD NEXT TO THIS HATEFUL EVIL ENTERTAINER!!!
She's hateful hateful hateful! :mad: :mad: :mad:
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:07 AM
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64. She obviously didn't hear what he said. Just like Obama
didn't know what his pastor was saying.
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shellgame26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:24 PM
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56. Well I still love Elton John
he can support anyone he wants, aint gonna change my mind much though. "Someone saved my life tonight" is one of the best break up songs ever!

Prima donna lord you really should have been there
Sitting like a princess perched in her electric chair
And its one more beer and I dont hear you anymore

Just a pawn out-played by a dominating queen
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:25 PM
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58. If he was my entertainer I would have WALKED OUT.
Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 11:26 PM by GarbagemanLB
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:29 PM
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59. I would have challenged him right then and there!
How could she just STAND there?!?!?!
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:06 AM
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62. Had he been saying for 20 years, then she would have left.
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:56 AM
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65. has Elton been spouting off on American misogynists for his entire career?
Or did he just decide to say it tonight at a political event?

Just curious.
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:24 AM
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66. No, I think Elton's a big fan of misogyny and homophobia.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:58 AM
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73. Except when he collaborated with that noted misogynist, Eminem.
Back in 2001.
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stratomagi Donating Member (811 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:28 AM
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67. You know, Elton John totally hit the nail on the head
I am voting for Obama solely because Hillary has a vagina and smaller brain. I'm totally overlooking his blackness in this decision.

NOT! What an ass...so if you don't vote for Hillary you're sexist...wtf?
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