PetraPooh
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Wed Apr-09-08 11:34 PM
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Obama NAILS the perfect response to 3AM phone call and IRAQ war vote in one fell swoop! |
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http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN0938336620080410?sp=trueClinton, Obama skirmish over Iraq<snip> Obama was asked what he thought about Clinton's television advertisement in which she suggested she was more qualified than Obama to answer a 3 a.m. call on a national security crisis -- an ad that helped her win Texas and Ohio.
"The person you want answering the phone at 3 a.m. is the person who has read the intelligence reports, who is asking the tough questions about why we want to invade a country like Iraq that had nothing to do with 9/11. That's somebody who has good judgment. And there's only one out of the remaining candidates who qualifies on that front," Obama said.<snip> What a PERFECT response!
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Wed Apr-09-08 11:36 PM
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Wed Apr-09-08 11:38 PM
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2. BO said he didn't know what he would do |
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Clinton had it right when he called it a "fairy tale."
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Wed Apr-09-08 11:40 PM
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Senator Rodham voted for the war. Obama spoke out against it. |
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Can't navigate around that.
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Wed Apr-09-08 11:59 PM
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16. anon, what's with the "Senator Rodham"? |
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There are plenty of valid ways to slag on Hillary. Messing with her name seems a bit juvenile (let's leave that to the Hillarites with their "Barry" and "B Hussein Obama" :eyes:)
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Thu Apr-10-08 12:01 AM
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17. I use it because it seperates her own record from her husbands. |
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So we can look solely at Hillary's record and judgement without the Clinton brand affecting our perception.
But I'll stop if you think it's too mean. We have enough of that here already. :)
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Thu Apr-10-08 12:09 AM
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19. You can use your own judgment here. It's certainly as good as mine is. |
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I just make a point to rip on any Hillaroids who screw with Obama's name. I figured I should remain "fair and balanced". ;)
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Wed Apr-09-08 11:44 PM
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9. He can certainly know that he would've taken the time to read the reports before deciding |
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even if he can't say for sure how he would've voted after fully reading the reports. I have no doubt he would NOT have taken Condoleeza Rice's word for its contents.
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Thu Apr-10-08 12:25 AM
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Edited on Thu Apr-10-08 12:27 AM by johnnydrama
so you don't act like a Repuke and cut off the rest of the sentence
"....What I know is that from my vantage point the case was not made"
Now clearly, you have found yourself able to get onto the internet, and type words into this thread, so i'm sure you are of some intelligence.
So i am going to give you the benefit of the doubt in that you realize that he's obviously saying that he didn't know if there was some big smoking gun that only the Senator's were privy to, that he wasn't privy to as a non-senator.
Since there was no such smoking gun, anyone of normal intelligence would realize he wouldn't have voted for the war.
Unless your theory is being a senator would have so corrupted him, like it has Senator Clinton, and Senator McCain, that he would have thrown every ounce of intelligence he had out the window.
I guess that's possible. But since one of the first things he did as a Senator was confront Condi on the war, my guess he wouldn't have taken what Condi was shoveling back in 2002/2003 the way Hillary did.
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Wed Apr-09-08 11:39 PM
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3. Thats what I want in a prez. Snappy comebacks. |
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Wed Apr-09-08 11:54 PM
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14. That's why you are supporting Ms. Ready from Day One, I suppose. |
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Thu Apr-10-08 12:40 AM
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22. Hmmm, I didn't find it "snappy" at all, it sounded quite well thought out to me, but hey |
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Edited on Thu Apr-10-08 12:41 AM by PetraPooh
if he can come up with such accurate and succinct answers fast and "snappily," more the better.
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Wed Apr-09-08 11:39 PM
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4. Oh, hell yes. Nail.On.Head. |
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Wed Apr-09-08 11:40 PM
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Uh oh. That one stung a little bit.
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Wed Apr-09-08 11:41 PM
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Wed Apr-09-08 11:42 PM
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7. Nice, but I wish Reuters would stop saying Hillary won Texas |
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Wed Apr-09-08 11:50 PM
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10. I wish they would get it right too. Obama won Texas. |
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Thu Apr-10-08 12:01 AM
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18. The only thing I can think of . . . and it is a reeaaacchh, is that they |
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are waiting for the last step of the caucus process (in late May I think) before they count the caucus delegates, since till then they can still change their minds. But like you I am getting very annoyed at much of wording that is coming out of Reuters that put Clinton in a better light than she deserves while skimming over Obama's successes.
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Thu Apr-10-08 06:14 AM
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24. They also imply that the 3 AM ad ran in Ohio, which from what I understand, it did not. |
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True, many people here saw it on the Internets, but to see it there, you had to WANT to see it and go looking for it. Also, it was shown and discussed many times on political shows we were able to watch, but it's always different seeing an ad dissected on a TV show vs. having it pop up on you unanalyzed. Its power tends to be drained when you have a panel of people picking apart the details.
I think the idea that Ohio somehow found the 3 AM ad effective is going to be one of those urban myths of the campaign. The only 3 AM ad I have seen here that snuck up on me unawares was the stupid McCain one where he implies he's better at handling the budget. Because, of course, budget crises ALWAYS happen at 3 AM.
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Wed Apr-09-08 11:43 PM
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8. If Obama wins it all, I'll bet he'll come up with a reason |
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why he's not going to bring the troops home. I think he'll say, "With the bigger picture I now have as president, and after talking with the generals I am convinced that it would be unwise to lower troop levels at this time."
Hope I didn't offend obama......
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Wed Apr-09-08 11:51 PM
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11. Both candidates are firmly committed to American imperialism |
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However, reality is going to force us out of that game, and I think that Obama is better at thinking outside the box.
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Wed Apr-09-08 11:53 PM
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13. Senator Rodham would probably attack Iran. |
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I'm fully prepared to receive criticism for my remark.
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Thu Apr-10-08 01:15 AM
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23. In all fairness to everyone who becomes President -- |
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I don't think anyone knows all they'll be up against until they hear that Oval Office door slam behind them.
Just like it's easy for us to say what we would and wouldn't do in a certain circumstance, until we're actually in that situation.....:shrug:
It's just something I always think when I hear politicians saying what they'll do when...
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Thu Apr-10-08 12:35 AM
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21. Obama is hitting his stride - great answers to what could be |
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Thu Apr-10-08 06:20 AM
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25. One remaining candidate qualified? Obama? Hardly. |
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Sorry, he wasn't privy to all of the intelligence reports like Hillary and every other Senator at the time was. Obama is just jacking his jaw.
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Thu Apr-10-08 01:27 PM
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26. No he wasn't, he didn't say he would have voted one way or another. . . |
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he said he would've READ IT before he voted. Sorry, but Hillary apparently didn't think the lives and well being of Vets were important enough to even take the time the READ the damned report, instead she took Condi Rice's word for what it said and what it meant. Are you telling me you think that is acceptable?
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