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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:45 PM
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Question for Obama or any of his peeps.
You(obama) stated that you were not in the Senate in October 2002 when Bush rammed through Congress the resolution authorizing the use of force in Iraq. But you also stated that “perhaps the reason I thought it was such a bad idea was I didn’t have the benefit of U.S. intelligence.”

This implies that you might have voted for the war if you had been in the Senate when the vote was taken. Why then do you condemn Hillary and other Senators who voted for the war authorization resolution when you admit the possibility that if you had been in the Senate you would have done the same?

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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:50 PM
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1. And Obama already stated he would not vote for the IWR repeatedly
and yet you stick with that little niggling fact that says otherwise?


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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:07 AM
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9. But you have to admit that saying otherwise is political suicide this year.
Why WOULD he say otherwise?
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:52 PM
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2. Maybe because she didn't read the NIE, which stated there was doubt about the basic claims of the ad
ministration?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:53 PM
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3. Bush didn't "ram" the IWR though Congress
It was a bipartisan lovefest in the Rose Garden! Not one of Dick Gephardt's most honorable days.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:54 PM
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4. Senator Clinton did not read the NIE
Instead, she depended on a briefing from Condi Rice.

She calls that "careful consideration". I call it horseshit.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:55 PM
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5. You (Hill) might fall for bushes lies but I didn't. And neither did Obama. Neither did the
majority of Democrats in Congress.

Maybe the reason the Repos voted for the war was the same reason Hillary voted for the war?
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:55 PM
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6. K & R!
This is a question that all Obamites should answer.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:03 AM
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7. I Have A Question Too...
Do you think Mrs. Clinton will stand for re-election for her seat in the senate when her present term is up or return to private life?
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:05 AM
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8. Jesus! Do you do ANY research before you post this stuff?
Clinton HAD the "U.S. intelligence" that contradicted Bush's argument...she just failed to read it
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:07 AM
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10. N. I. E.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:11 AM
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13. Yep.
Obama was asked what he thought about Clinton's television advertisement in which she suggested she was more qualified than Obama to answer a 3 a.m. call on a national security crisis -- an ad that helped her win Texas and Ohio.

>> "The person you want answering the phone at 3 a.m. is the person who has read the intelligence reports, who is asking the tough questions about why we want to invade a country like Iraq that had nothing to do with 9/11. That's somebody who has good judgment. And there's only one out of the remaining candidates who qualifies on that front," Obama said."
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:09 AM
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11. I doubt we can convince someone who believes Obama wants to "surrender to the Mulllahs"
Edited on Thu Apr-10-08 12:11 AM by SemiCharmedQuark
Your mind is made up. Please don't pretend that anything anyone says is suddenly going to change that.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:10 AM
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12. OMFG!!! I NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT
YOU ARE A GENIUS!!!!


not.

Same crap:

:hurts:


Different day!

always good for a laugh, man!
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beandoc Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:13 AM
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14. Context
Obama was questioned about the Iraq War vote during the 2004 election when John Kerry was the presumptive democratic nominee. Previously, Obama had publicly taken a strong stance against the war in Iraq and stated he would have voted against it. Now he was asked about it in the context of a nominee who had voted to authorize the war.
If you want to fault him for allowing room in his position to support the Democratic nominee, that's fair. I suppose he could have thrown Kerry under the bus and given you the consistency in his position you are looking for.
It was a political move in a complex situation, and personally I think he handled it fairly well.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:18 AM
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15. Because had he been in the Senate, he woould have read the NIE before voting
Just like Hillary and her knee-jerk response to China re: the Olympica, he read up on things, and delivered a considered decision. He would have done the same, and come to the same conclusion.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:20 AM
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16. I don't think that Obama is on this board, so he can not answer your post, nt
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