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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:35 AM
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How about this nugget from Todd Spivak:
Houston Press News
February 28, 2008

Chris Matthews, the MSNBC political pundit, recently grilled Texas State Senator Kirk Watson for supporting Obama despite knowing nothing about the candidate's legislative record.

"Can you name any — can you name anything he's accomplished?" Matthews pressed.

"No," Watson, whose district includes Austin, finally admitted. "I'm not gonna be able to do that."

"Well, that's a problem, isn't it?" Matthews said.

Hillary Clinton recalled the incident with a chuckle during last Thursday's debate at the University of Texas.

When asked about his legislative record, Obama rattles off several bills he sponsored as an Illinois lawmaker.

He expanded children's health insurance; made the state Earned Income Tax Credit refundable for low-income families; required public bodies to tape closed-door meetings to make government more transparent; and required police to videotape interrogations of homicide suspects.

And the list goes on.

It's a lengthy record filled with core liberal issues. But what's interesting, and almost never discussed, is that he built his entire legislative record in Illinois in a single year.

Republicans controlled the Illinois General Assembly for six years of Obama's seven-year tenure. Each session, Obama backed legislation that went nowhere; bill after bill died in committee. During those six years, Obama, too, would have had difficulty naming any legislative ­achievements.

Then, in 2002, dissatisfaction with President Bush and Republicans on the national and local levels led to a Democratic sweep of nearly every lever of Illinois state government. For the first time in 26 years, Illinois Democrats controlled the governor's office as well as both legislative chambers.

The white, race-baiting, hard-right Republican Illinois Senate Majority Leader James "Pate" Philip was replaced by Emil Jones Jr., a gravel-voiced, dark-skinned African-American known for chain-smoking cigarettes on the Senate floor.

Jones had served in the Illinois Legislature for three decades. He represented a district on the Chicago South Side not far from Obama's. He became Obama's ­kingmaker.

Several months before Obama announced his U.S. Senate bid, Jones called his old friend Cliff Kelley, a former Chicago alderman who now hosts the city's most popular black call-in radio ­program.

I called Kelley last week and he recollected the private conversation as follows:

"He said, 'Cliff, I'm gonna make me a U.S. Senator.'"

"Oh, you are? Who might that be?"

"Barack Obama."

Jones appointed Obama sponsor of virtually every high-profile piece of legislation, angering many rank-and-file state legislators who had more seniority than Obama and had spent years championing the bills.

"I took all the beatings and insults and endured all the racist comments over the years from nasty Republican committee chairmen," State Senator Rickey Hendon, the original sponsor of landmark racial profiling and videotaped confession legislation yanked away by Jones and given to Obama, complained to me at the time. "Barack didn't have to endure any of it, yet, in the end, he got all the credit.

"I don't consider it bill jacking," Hendon told me. "But no one wants to carry the ball 99 yards all the way to the one-yard line, and then give it to the halfback who gets all the credit and the stats in the record book."

During his seventh and final year in the state Senate, Obama's stats soared. He sponsored a whopping 26 bills passed into law — including many he now cites in his presidential campaign when attacked as inexperienced.

It was a stunning achievement that started him on the path of national politics — and he couldn't have done it without Jones.

Before Obama ran for U.S. Senate in 2004, he was virtually unknown even in his own state. Polls showed fewer than 20 percent of Illinois voters had ever heard of Barack Obama.

Jones further helped raise Obama's profile by having him craft legislation addressing the day-to-day tragedies that dominated local news ­headlines.

For instance. Obama sponsored a bill banning the use of the diet supplement ephedra, which killed a Northwestern University football player, and another one preventing the use of pepper spray or pyrotechnics in nightclubs in the wake of the deaths of 21 people during a stampede at a Chicago nightclub. Both stories had received national attention and extensive local coverage.

I spoke to Jones earlier this week and he confirmed his conversation with Kelley, adding that he gave Obama the legislation because he believed in Obama's ability to negotiate with Democrats and Republicans on divisive issues.

So how has Obama repaid Jones?

Last June, to prove his commitment to government transparency, Obama released a comprehensive list of his earmark requests for fiscal year 2008. It comprised more than $300 million in pet projects for Illinois, including tens of millions for Jones's Senate district.

Shortly after Jones became Senate president, I remember asking his view on pork-barrel spending.

I'll never forget what he said:

"Some call it pork; I call it steak."

http://www.houstonpress.com/2008-02-28/news/barack-obam...

And now this man might be our next president.......

:scared:
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:36 AM
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1. BREAKING NEWS: article from February.
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Symarip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:37 AM
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3. Beat me to it (nt)
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:25 AM
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10. Never said it was new.
It's just a reminder of what a slick operator this guy is and how undeserving he is of the presidency.
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TTUBatfan2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:33 AM
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14. I have a question for you...
I've analyzed both of their records and it's amazing to me that the MSM doesn't ask this same question towards Hillary's supporters. In fact, there was a Hillary supporter on that same show with the Obama guy that he embarrassed. Hillary's legislative record is piss poor and so is Obama's. Neither candidate is viable in the experience department.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:27 AM
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13. So I guess the Keating Five story is old news, too.
That means we can't bring up anything about McCain's past when we get into the general election, because it is too old.

Your argument does not hold up. Your ignorance is showing. It's too bad you don't understand anything about the way things work in Springfield.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:37 AM
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2. D*E*S*P*E*R*A*T*I*O*N
:eyes:
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:39 AM
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4. Hillary's experience: IWR, Kyle-LIEberman Amendmant, Vote against the banning of clusterbombs
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Symarip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:40 AM
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5. Yeah, but
_____________ (fill in excuse here)
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:41 AM
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6. And?
COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS:
Obama holds assignments on the Senate Committees for Foreign Relations; Health, Education, Labor and Pensions; Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs; and Veterans' Affairs, and he is a member of the Congressional Black Caucus.

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As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Obama made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. In August 2005, he traveled to Russia, Ukraine, and Azerbaijan. The trip focused on strategies to control the world's supply of conventional weapons, biological weapons, and weapons of mass destruction as a first defense against potential terrorist attacks.<61>

Following meetings with U.S. military in Kuwait and Iraq in January 2006, Obama visited Jordan, Israel, and the Palestinian territories.

He left for his third official trip in August 2006, traveling to South Africa, Kenya, Djibouti, Ethiopia and Chad. In a nationally televised speech at the University of Nairobi, he spoke forcefully on the influence of ethnic rivalries and corruption in Kenya.

Obama worked with Russ Feingold (D–WI) to eliminate gifts of travel on corporate jets by lobbyists to members of Congress and require disclosure of bundled campaign contributions under the "Honest Leadership and Open Government Act", which was signed into law in September 2007.

He joined Chuck Schumer (D-NY) in sponsoring S. 453, a bill to criminalize deceptive practices in federal elections, including fraudulent flyers and automated phone calls, as witnessed in the 2006 midterm elections.

Obama also introduced the "Iraq War De-Escalation Act", a bill to cap troop levels in Iraq, begin phased redeployment, and remove all combat brigades from Iraq before April 2008.<68>

Later in 2007, Obama sponsored with Kit Bond (R-MO) an amendment to the 2008 Defense Authorization Act adding safeguards for personality disorder military discharges, and calling for a review by the Government Accountability Office following reports that the procedure had been used inappropriately to reduce government costs.

joined Chuck Hagel (R-NE) in introducing legislation to reduce risks of nuclear terrorism.A provision from the Obama-Hagel bill was passed by Congress in December 2007 as an amendment to the State-Foreign Operations appropriations bill.

Obama also sponsored a Senate amendment to the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) to provide one year of job protection for family members caring for soldiers with combat-related injuries. After passing both houses of Congress with bipartisan majorities, SCHIP was vetoed by President Bush in early October 2007, a move Obama said "shows a callousness of priorities that is offensive to the ideals we hold as Americans."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama

THESE ARE BARACK'S ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN THE U.S. SENATE TO DATE:


** First legislation, the HOPE Act, which increased Pell Grants to $5100, and later joined Senator Kennedy on the Higher Education legislation that passed July 20, by a vote of 78-18. That legislation also included funding for Predominantly Black Colleges to assist with counseling, tutoring and other needs of low income students. It also creates the Teaching Residency Act which will create a school-based teacher preparation program in high needs schools to provide each teacher with a mentor, content instruction, classroom management skills, a master’s degree and state certification, and a 2 year follow-up program.


**The Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006
is an act that requires the full disclosure of all entities or organizations receiving federal funds beginning in fiscal year (FY) 2007 on a website maintained by the Office of Management and Budget.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Funding_Accountability_and_Transparency_Act_of_2006


**The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act
Authored by U.S. Sens. Dick Lugar (R-IN) and Barack Obama (D-IL), the Lugar-Obama initiative expands U.S. cooperation to destroy conventional weapons. It also expands the State Department's ability to detect and interdict weapons and materials of mass destruction.
Signed into Law on January 11, 2007.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/chrisblask/gGCPsK


**The 2007 Government Ethics Bill
http://www.rollcall.com/issues/53_17/news/19664-1.html?CMP=OTC-RSS
http://www.commonblog.com/story/2007/9/14/164837/331

** The “Democratic Republic of the Congo Relief, Security, and Democracy Promotion Act.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s109-2125

** S116 - Summer Learning demonstration project to provide summer learning grants and encourage new teaching methods.
http://www.pasesetter.org/demonstrationPrograms/nasd.html

and this one, moved out of committee just a few days ago:
Obama's Global Poverty Act of 2007, passed out of committee just a few days ago
WASHINGTON, D.C. - U.S. Senators Barack Obama (D-IL), Chuck Hagel (R-NE), and Maria Cantwell (D-WA) and Congressman Adam Smith (D-WA) today hailed the Senate Foreign Relations Committee's passage of the Global Poverty Act (S.2433), which requires the President to develop and implement a comprehensive policy to cut extreme global poverty in half by 2015 through aid, trade, debt relief, and coordination with the international community, businesses and NGOs. This legislation was introduced in December. Smith and Congressman Spencer Bachus (R-AL) sponsored the House version of the bill (H.R. 1302), which passed the House last September.
http://obama.senate.gov /



Amendments, that have all passed:

S.Amdt.159 to S.Con.Res.18 - To prevent and, if necessary, respond to an international outbreak of the avian flu.

S.Amdt.390 to H.R.1268 - To provide meal and telephone benefits for members of the Armed Forces who are recuperating from injuries incurred on active duty in Operation Iraqi Freedom or Operation Enduring Freedom.

S.Amdt.670 to H.R.3 - To provide for Flexible Fuel Vehicle (FFV) refueling capability at new and existing refueling station facilities to promote energy security and reduction of greenhouse gas emissions.

S.Amdt.808 to H.R.6 - To establish a program to develop Fischer-Tropsch transportation fuels from Illinois basin coal.

S.Amdt.851 to H.R.6 - To require the Secretary to establish a Joint Flexible Fuel/Hybrid Vehicle Commercialization Initiative, and for other purposes.

S.Amdt.1362 to S.1042 - To require a report on the Department of Defense Composite Health Care System II.

S.Amdt.1453 to S.1402 - To ensure the protection of military and civilian personnel in the Department of Defense from an influenza pandemic, including an avian influenza pandemic.

S.Amdt.2301 to H.R.3010 - To increase funds to the Thurgood Marshall Legal Educational Opportunity Program and to the Office of Special Education Programs of the Department of Education for the purposes of expanding positive behavioral interventions and supports.

S.Amdt.2605 to S.2020 - Expressing the sense of the Senate that the Federal Emergency Management Agency should immediately address issues relating to no-bid contracting.

S.Amdt.2930 to S.2349 - To clarify that availability of legislation does not include nonbusiness days.
S.Amdt.3144 to S.Con.Res.83 - To provide a $40 million increase in FY 2007 for the Homeless Veterans Reintegration Program and to improve job services for hard-to-place veterans

S. Amdt 41 to S. 1 To require lobbyists to disclose the candidates, leadership PACs, or political parties for whom they collect or arrange contributions, and the aggregate amount of the contributions collected or arranged.

----------------------------------------------

Barack has Written a total of 890 Bills and Co-sponsored Another 1096 since he started serving in the U.S. Senate.

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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:48 AM
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8. THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS, FrenchieCat -
Now, I wish they'd STFU about his record - and the slander that he doesn't have one.




:patriot:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:11 PM
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19. Thanks...
:hi:
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:45 AM
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7. Another set of facts that Tweety and KO and MSNBC/GE will never report as it hurts Obama
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:49 AM
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9. Your link to the story doesn't even work anymore ...... Error.
Guess they took down the story it's such old news. Geesh .... Feb 28th?
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:27 AM
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11. I just clicked on it and it worked fine for me.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:23 AM
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12. Thanks for posting this.
I read this article awhile ago, and I thought I had bookmarked it. Then I couldn't find it.

Similar things have been printed in the Chicago papers. Jones did decide to become Obama's kingmaker. The article is correct.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:09 PM
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15. I know that the article is correct, I did my due diligence.
That's one of the reasons why I can't support Obama. I don't think that the guy deserves the presidency. He's smart, but is way too slick for my taste. How shameful to take credit, over and over, for someone else's work. He also tried to do it in the US senate. I remember reading about Kennedy being upset with him for taking attributions on a bill where he hadn't contributed a minute of his time other than showing up for the photo-op. Of course in the senate he couldn't get away with the way he operated in IL.

There's a senator who is a friend of the family and I once asked him what he thought of Obama (way before he ran for pres.). He responded by saying that he was lazy, ill prepared and a tad arrogant. Lazy & ill prepared because he didn't properly prepare for his committee work.

Obama reminds me of the people who get ahead at work by being charming and kissing up to the boss, while the real hard working people get passed over for the less competent guy.
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:02 PM
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17. You haven't done a very good job on your homework.
There is no dispute from any quarter that some of these bills were VERY unpopular when Obama began shepherding them.

Many of these same bills eventually passed with little or no opposition.

Explain that one to us. Your accuracy of your response will be counted toward your final grade.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:40 PM
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23. Obama did not shepherd this bills.
Other people did. And they were unpopular because the republicans controlled the Illinois legislature. Nothing could get out of committee. Anything that did get out was likely to be voted down because the votes were not there.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 04:06 PM
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26. Thanks for saving me the trouble to respond.
:hi:
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 04:54 PM
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27. Did you see what the republicans in the Senate
are doing today?

They are presenting all kinds of amendments and things, then adding McCain's name as a sponsor. They are padding his resume for the general election. That is exactly what Emil Jones Jr. did with Obama in Illinois.

Jones is a powerful man, and not just in Springfield. He is a power on the South Side of Chicago. The black community there has its own power structure. And he is a powerful man in Chicago politics as well. I am not saying that is bad. It simply explains how Obama got ahead in Illinois.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:21 PM
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16. Great Post...
Thanks for posting this.

Hillary for President..
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:14 PM
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21. You're welcome!!
:hi:
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:08 PM
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18. Some great insight into the empty-suit that is Obama ---- NT
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oviedodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:12 PM
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20. How about the "full-o-crap" pant-suit Hillary is. I do not see what the problem is here when
Hillary is literally bullying and riding her husbands name in this campaign. Don't you think that EVERY SINGLE POLITICIAN got some help along the way.

Do you know how much "pork" Hillary has sent through?????


Come on.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:15 PM
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22. It was unbelievably cruel of her
I remember that at the Texas debate, with the man sitting right there in the audience. The hapless Watson wasn't a good surrogate, but really, she might as well have been sticking pins in a kitten.


Chris Matthews, the MSNBC political pundit, recently grilled Texas State Senator Kirk Watson for supporting Obama despite knowing nothing about the candidate's legislative record.

-snip

Hillary Clinton recalled the incident with a chuckle during last Thursday's debate at the University of Texas.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 03:16 PM
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24. Wow..... going back six weeks to find an article.... I guess when....
...all the recent news has been bad for your gal, it pays to move the focus back to a month and a half ago.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 04:04 PM
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25. The facts are still the same.
The man is too slick for his own good.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 04:57 PM
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28. Yes, it is evil to examine someone's record and history.
We don't dare look at the record, because it might be more than six weeks old.

Let's not examine any articles about McCain that give details about what he did last year and the year before in the Senate. Throw out that picture of him hugging *. After all, that is old news.
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