Do you have Clinton Fatigue? I do.

[Eurobabe]

In the beginning I was more than willing to give Hillary a chance, but the longer the primaries have dragged on, and the more the Clintons' dysfunctional ways came to the fore, I felt worn out. The latest incident is this payola to Bill for Columbian Trade deal, and Hillary claiming she doesn't agree with Bill.

The constant drama is what turned me off, it so reminds me of the 1990s. And this is why I simply don't want Bill and Hillary anywhere near the White House.

Apparently much of America feels the same way. It's time for change.

[papau]

1. Once it became obvious that Obama was a con-job, I developed Obama Fatigue

[jobycom]

6. Second on the Obama fatique. nt

[emilyg]

15. Third.

[shayes51]

35. 4th

[Maureen1322]

37. 5th

[Chalco]

38. 6th

[indimuse]

51. 7th

!

[QC]

52. 8th

[Beacool]

55. 9th!!!!!!

:thumbsup:

[Texas Hill Country]

59. 10th

[DemGa]

60. Eleventh

[PBS Poll-435]

68. 12th

Will he just learn to be happy in the Senate already?

[Tyler Durden]

78. 13th: I ain't superstitious...

...and I don't base my politics on superstitions. No offense to the religious in the audience.

[emilyg]

66. I like your hobby.

[FrenchieCat]

12. It's just that you are "used" to the same ol' same ol'.....

It's not your fault. You're just one of those.

[jobycom]

28. Nah, he just sees through Obama. It happens, just not enough. nt

[Deep13]

43. I see. Disagreement equals ignorance.

What an arrogant thing to say.

[Hepburn]

48. In the case of uninformed and uneducated disagreement ~~ yes. n/t

[PoliticalAmazon]

72. No, but disagreement is sometimes based on ignorance....

...It's not right to assume that this is always the case, however.

[SeattleGirl]

29. And what "con job" is that?

Inquiring minds want to know.

And please spare me the the exaggerations.

[shellgame26]

31. I agree Papau

once i found out about con-job Obama and his lies about landing under sniper fire...oh wait...uh forget that.

[Deep13]

44. Jesus, no kidding, huh?

We are so screwed.

[anonymous171]

2. It's more like weariness. I just want them to go away. I want to like Bill again.

[crankychatter]

63. I've always despised that grinning SOB

and I campaigned for him twice

I have no qualms about hating a politician, even one I support

but that's just me

[susankh4]

80. I want Bill again, too!

How can we arrange that?

[bluestateguy]

3. I'm just not up for The Clinton Wars II

I was the most loyal defender of them in the 1990's. By 2000 I was exhausted from it all. They make life very hard for their supporters. Clinton was a fine president. I'm sure Hillary would be fine too, but they are the greatest organizing inspiration for the right wing in this country. Republicans gained across the board in down-ballot elections in the Clinton years. It took 12 years to win back the House.

[Justitia]

61. Amen & Ditto for me. I am loathe to re-live the drama & we can't afford it this time around. -eom

[Maddy McCall]

4. Shouldn't that hope n' change flavored kool-aid boost you right up?

:P

[gateley]

5. I'd always heard

about the Clintons' dealings and never paid 'em much mind. But some of the stuff that has come out is pretty smarmy, and to me, reinforces the rep they have of doing whatever it takes to get ahead. Including stomping on their integrity away to make a buck. Or win an election.

[Mimosa]

30. It's their greed for $$$$$ and anything to get power which scares me

Gately, you're right.

I had Clinton fatigue long ago. It's real. I also despise the idea of dynasties.


Bush I

Clinton I

Clinton I

Bush II

Bush II

Clinton II part 1? I say 'no, no, no.'

[bigbrother05]

7. The constant drama from Hillary and her supporters

is very tiring

[Symarip]

8. It's so beyond belief at this point

It's just laughable. I can't even get frustrated anymore. Every time Obama starts going after McCain they cut to Clinton(s) attacking Obama. I don't think it's necessarily harming our chances for the GE, but sometimes you want to lean through the TV and say 'take a hint'. So I just laugh now. My roommates, they laugh. My coworkers, they laugh. The excuses and the lies and the grasping at straws... It's just funny.

I'd feel sorry for them, but then I saw their tax returns and they don't need my sympathy.

[rodeodance]

9. drink some more of the red stuff--your bubble life will feel better.

[leftstreet]

10. I have DLC fatigue!

[me b zola]

13. Yeppers

My fatigue is of the dlc and everything that they stand for--and fail to stand against.

[ClayZ]

11. I am beginning to feel sorry for her. She must be exhausted!

There was one debate that I noticed a look she gave him him after he gave her a very good comeback.

She looked at him with a sort of knowing look in her eye.

I think she must know he will be better for the country than her.

It is time to get on with the FUTURE.

[Metric System]

14. Yeah, I'm sure that's what she was thinking. That's the only logical conclusion. Ugh.

[ClayZ]

26. Some

Some by Daniel Berrigan

Some stood up once, and sat down
Some walked a mile, and walked away
Some stood up twice, then sat down, "I've had it" they said,
Some walked two miles, then walked away. "It's too much," they cried.

Some stood and stood and stood.
They were taken for fools,
They were taken for being taken in.

Some walked and walked and walked.
They walked the earth,
They walked the waters,
They walked the air.

"Why do you stand," they were asked, "and why do you walk?"

"Because of the children," they said,
"And because of the heart,
"And because of the bread,"

"Because the cause is the heart's beat,
And the children born
And the risen bread."

[Beacool]

16. Nope, but I'm sick to death of Obama, his fake promises of hope, change, etc.

and his sycophant supporters (I only mean those who adore him blindly).

Enough with the Kool-Aid!!!!

[Kahuna]

36. Hope is bad. We HATE hope.

:sarcasm:

[Eurobabe]

39. Goodbye. Another one I forgot to ignore!

:hi:

[Beacool]

54. How very mature!!!

Simply ignore those who don't agree with you.

I have no one on ignore, that's the purpose of this board: to exchange ideas, not to goose step to one tune.

[samsingh]

17. sadly, yes

[merh]

18. And Clinton fatique is exactly what opponents of Hillary's

candidacy warned would happen. The supporters here think that she has been given a raw deal here, they haven't seen nothing yet.

The right will be unmerciful, which is why they want her to win the nomination, they can pull out all the dead horses and beat them to death and folks will just turn away or turn off.

[ampad]

22. Yup exactly what the Repubs want

Clinton fatigue. The longer she stays in the more tired I get of seeing her mug. I am a little biased because I started getting tired of her when she gave her floor speech (excuse) for voting for the IWR, but I digress. I think that by the time this thing gets to NC folks will be good and tired of her. Hopefully the remaining states will do us all a favor and put her miserable campaign to rest where it belongs. If she were to miraculously win then I would have to not only hold my nose but get piss ass drunk to vote for her, that is how tired I am of her.

[PoliticalAmazon]

74. I supported Clintons through their disasters in WJC admn. Won't do it this time. n/t

[Cant trust em]

19. I have primary fatigue

It's exhausting having to put my game face on every day.

[Life Long Dem]

20. I feel she cooled her heels since the can of worms opened up.

[PetraPooh]

21. If it wasn't so exhausting, it would be laughable. I simply can't understand

why her supporters don't seem to notice any of this. It's like listening to neo-cons talk about Bush. I mean if they even seemed to recognize but had some valid reason to consider her anyway, I might listen. For example, I fully recognized that Bill shouldn't have lied or acted like a teenager that is too stupid to realize that oral sex is still sex. But I still supported him, felt like it wasn't a reflection on his abilities as president, said a lot about how charming and persuasive he must be. Respected Hillary for staying with him because it confirmed for me that she really knew who her husband was and had clearly accepted him for who he was.

Unfortunately the Clinton supporters I read on here seem to be completely blind to any mistakes, lies, conflicts of interest, or anything negative about their candidate. It is just mind boggling that they can be so blind and aggressive in their protection of their ignorant bliss.

[Eurobabe]

40. yet they accuse Obama

supporters of being :crazy:

:wtf:

[PetraPooh]

67. Yeah, exactly. I know that I don't agree with Obama on many points, I don't

pretend they don't exist. But in the end, I have learned that 90% of what a president promises will be blocked by Congress anyway, so even if he had 100% of the "right" answers, he wouldn't be able to deliver on them. The question for me is "Which personality style will present the United States in a fashion that I can be proud of?" So things that exclude candidates for me are, stupidity, righteous single-mindedness, one issue candidates, liars, whiners, those that make petty Rovian type attacks, and so on. Hillary has in the past two months pounded home to me, over and over again, that she exhibits 90% of the traits that I would be ashamed of in the leader of my country. I've had 7 years and 1 more to go of feeling that way, feeling like the world is at the very least laughing at me and Americans collectively, because we were too careless and stupid and we let a mean, singleminded moron into the white house, not once but twice. No more.

Obama seems to be ultimately fair, calm, thinks before he speaks, admits issues relating to him without blaming anyone else, asks questions in order to be given answers instead of asking "questions" so that his POV can be heard at nauseum, courteous and respectful to the likes of Betrayus and Crockpot and yet effectively and calmly becks them into corners of their own making rather than pontificating during an inquiry hearing. I really like his style, I think he can bring respectability back to the white house, something neither Hillary nor McCain can possibly accomplish given their presentations of themselves to date.

[SwampG8r]

46. good post

i have always wondered how reality can shift so easily around the Clinton's
as for oral sex not being sex
if its not SEX why don't they call it something else?
oral happy time or oral whooppeedooo
seems to me that logic demands that for one to obtain SEXUAL gratification then sex must be involved
and the splooge stained blue dress confirms gratification
i hate going into this subject again because the shrillary folks seem to get all bent when you do
but it is illustrative of how willing to blind themselves to the baggage she totes

[loveangelc]

23. yes, and I barely even remember their presidency.

[AJH032]

24. I have Clinton/Obama fatigue

Enough of all this already.

But that's just me.

[Golden Raisin]

25. No. It's not just you.

[FrenchieCat]

27. I'm just ready to see some real McSame ass kicking.....

That what I'm waiting for.....

and yeah, Hillary will step aside none too soon.

[Eurobabe]

41. So you voting for McLame?

:shrug:

[AJH032]

53. of course not

I may be fatigued, but I'm not an idiot.

[Kahuna]

32. I'm so sick of her I could scream.

And I often do. :evilgrin:

[PoliticalAmazon]

73. Did you see her smarmy ad for NC? ...

...Grab an emesis basin before you watch it, though.

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/04/clinton_new_north_carolina_ad.html

[Perry Logan]

33. I have "Bitching About Clinton" fatigue.

[kevinmc]

34. Not me .... I enjoy a good joke ... and Hillary keeps me laughing n/t

[Deep13]

42. Do you have band-wagon fatigue? I do.

:eyes:

[paulk]

45. I've got Obama fatigue

and mostly Obama supporter fatigue after seeing endless idiot posts like yours.

"dysfunctional ways", huh? Too much drama?

What a pack of jackasses the lot of you are.

You can't talk policy or issues, all you can to is heap personal insults on the other candidates.

[Beacool]

57. Shhhh, be careful, or you too will be put on "ignore".

:rofl:

[crankychatter]

62. "endless idiot posts...pack of jackasses...all you can do is heap personal insults?"

I'm sorry, but you're the most clueless person I've ever seen in my short trip to GDP

You are consigned to the nether realm from whence you came

[paulk]

64. well, aren't you special...

[Hepburn]

47. It's all the lies from Hillary that are so very tiresome.

Sniper fire, book bags, NAFTA, etc. Big, small, silly, dramatic ~~ lies of all sizes, kinds and varieties.

She needs to go not only for the good of the Party, but for her own good.

[Marrah_G]

49. Nope- no fatigue here.

[Coexist]

50. yes, for quite a while now.

[SeaLyons]

56. Obama fatigue here...

really sick of Obama.

[Eurobabe]

75. this isn't about you

typical Clinton supporter response. :eyes:

[Texas Hill Country]

58. actually, only half of democrats think it is time for change... the other half think we need action

[Writer]

65. I don't. I really like her, and I think she will make a brilliant president!

[BlooInBloo]

69. Turn the page.

[ShortnFiery]

70. Yes. eom

[PoliticalAmazon]

71. ITA. I'm tired of her torpedoing her own campaign nearly every day...

...and I'm ready to move on. At this point she's like a dead weight on the Democratic Party and its voters, and especially its activists.

I'm over her and her crooked staff, including WJC. I'm disgusted that Chelsea Clinton would stand silent while her mother lied about being under sniper fire. I'm fed up with James Carville and his Matlin MindMeld.

I want to do something productive. I want to put an Obama v. McCain suite of pages on my website. I want to distribute free Obama-2008 stickers.

Enough. We must get rid of the Clinton dead weight on our party so we can move on to launch a successful campaign against John Mccain.

[shaniqua6392]

76. What do you have against the 90's???

Life was much better under Cinton in the 90's, imo. I really have Clinton and Obama fatigue at this point. I am not thrilled with either of them.

[Eurobabe]

81. I have nothing against the 90s, but the Clintons

and their style of politics. :hi:

Did you see Bill in Indiana trying to spin Hillary out of the Tuzla disaster?

WHAT a LOAD OF CRAP. This is EXACTLY what I am talking about. Nothing will get done with them at the helm, it will be one media fight after another.

[cornermouse]

77. I couldn't believe it when I saw people falling for the junk

Bush was saying and voting for him, not once but twice.

Fast forward to 2008 and I can't believe it now when I see democrats, who I thought were smarter than this, falling for Obama's vague generalities which, if he somehow wins (something that I am beginning to doubt), will allow him to claim he didn't actually say (fill in the blank).

[susankh4]

79. I have Obama fatigue.

It started about two to three months ago. And is getting steadily worse.