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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:29 PM
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You know Obama is gonna break your heart, don't ya?
I'm ready for it. It is for the best.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:30 PM
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1. I'd rather lose with the good candidate than win with the wrong win. n/t
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:30 PM
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2. I agree my friend
peace and low stress to you and yours.
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:31 PM
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4. I agree, I'll PROUDLY vote for President Obama.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:32 PM
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6. Or we can just win with Obama.
Seems like a nice happy medium.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:12 PM
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26. Agreed. I'd rather lose with honor than win through sleaze.
But I think Obama's gonna win this one.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:19 PM
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28. I don't think OP meant that Obama was gonna lose.....
He's talking about when President Obama does something that you disagree with.

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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:24 PM
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29. Could be, but I'm still supporting him.
Unlike McCain and unlike Hillary, Obama seems to be the only one that is actually human inside. Even though you might disagree with him, he'll at least listen to you.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:50 PM
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32. Which is why I support neither. n/t
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 09:13 PM
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42. Holy shit....are you serious?
Edited on Thu Apr-10-08 09:15 PM by JoFerret
My take on the heartbreak is that he will be one big HUGE disappointment should he be elected.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 09:27 PM
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44. Obama will be running against a doddering old fool.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 10:10 PM
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46. The people who lose, suffer, and die thank you for your emotion.
Edited on Thu Apr-10-08 10:11 PM by gulliver
What heartfelt emotion! It is hearty and emotional. It brings tears to my eyes. It puts a lump in my throat. Chills run down my spine. The rightness of it! It just feels so right. I feel the feeling. The warmth, the rightness, the complete bliss of knowing my blissful feeling is genuinely blissful. And heartfelt. My heart is pounding, for I now know what it feels like to really feel. To emerge into the light of the pure soul away from the darkness and cold of dreary thought.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:31 PM
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3. You just never know how things will work out
I'll accept whatever the outcome is but I doubt we'll see a president McCain.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:32 PM
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5. What's Your Expectation? [nt]
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:39 PM
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14. thank you for asking
I want an articulate Ralph NaderDennis Kucinich that will motivate America to call for a real NEW DEAL.

I fear that I will get an articulate servant to corporations.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:45 PM
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19. Sorry, We Can't Have It
Because of those inconvenient things we call elections - remember, half the US has an IQ of 100 or below.

On the Democratic side, there is a limited range of things a candidate can espouse and still be electable. The big difference, however, is which direction the candidate tries to *push* that range. The Clintons kept pushing to the Right - that was part of their triangulation strategy. Obama seems to be pushing to the Left - let's hope he does, and that it works.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:55 PM
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20. lets hope that he does my friend
my fear - I think Obama is some super cool former pot smoker. I hope he isn't really from the "I never inhaled" crowd.

In other words I fear that he is a triangulator, or that triangulation will overpower him.

I am ready for him to break our hearts.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:54 PM
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34. I don't think triangulation is part of his plan
Not in the Clinton way, anyway.

I think he's willing to talk to and with anyone, and willing to listen, as well. But that he's also willing to stand for what he believes, and to say what that is.

I'm not sure we're going to find right and left as easily defined under an Obama administration. Which, to me, is a good and healthy sign after what will be years and years of polarization and hate. I think he has a *chance*, maybe that's all it is, but a *chance* of persuading a majority of the American public to move forward together.

I also think, to put it back in those triangulation terms, that he's more likely to successfully co-opt those whose opinions we'd probably all dislike as he is to be co-opted. Clinton seemed very enamoured of focus groups and polls - and ready to sell off certain people to achieve their goals (I keep thinking of things like DOMA and Don't Ask Don't Tell). Now, we don't know for sure where H. Clinton would go on that, but from the way the campaign has been running, I see nothing to be optimistic about there. More of the same.

We're just never going to jump all the way to the "left" - Kucinich style, for instance. It's not going to happen. (And Nader? Cares only about Ralph. Don't be fooled there). I admire a lot of his positions, actually. But president, he's never going to be.
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 08:06 PM
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38. I don't see that, whether its Clinton or Obama, they will have to be dragged to the left...
kicking and screaming.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:57 PM
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22. That's never going to happen
and meantime, your plans leave us with another 4 years.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:17 PM
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27. sigh
:(
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:57 PM
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35. Some people will eat shit and call it chocolate, and try to tell you its chocolate too...
don't let them get you down.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:33 PM
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7. How?
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:33 PM
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8. Obama is going to kick the ever lovin' shit out of McCain.
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1620rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:35 PM
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11. One way or another, "they" won't let it happen.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:38 PM
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13. Times are a changin'
the fascists are losing their grip.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:42 PM
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16. I agree
I feel that the BFEE would rather have a dem (especially HRC) in the White House instead of McCain.

They like to beat on McCain...
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:34 PM
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9. I know that Hillary already has.
Edited on Thu Apr-10-08 06:34 PM by rocknation
:(
rocknation
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:34 PM
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10. Huh?
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:40 PM
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15. Great handle!
:kick:

I fear that Obama will be all DLC...
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Asgaya Dihi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:38 PM
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12. Better to break your heart than to sell your soul
He might do that, it's been one of my biggest concerns with him all along. But what's the alternative? He might vs she will? The Clinton campaign reminds me too much of the last few years and I'm done with the aggression and creative use of facts for gain such as with the caucus bit, they aren't new and she knew the rules. If she had won I bet her line would have been "the kid should have learned the rules", and she never objected to them before she started to lose them, but when the argument was convenient out it came.

Maybe she would have been a good President, maybe even better than Obama. We'll never know though because when the time came for her to show us what she had she didn't show us anything many really wanted. Support fell rather than climbed outside of the initial 3am ad boost and she hasn't noticed that enough to change course yet, even with the steady loss of superdelegates. If she doesn't care what they think, if she doesn't care what we think, if she can't change course when things aren't working and goes easily into aggression, then what in the world would I vote for that for?

Obama didn't defeat her. She defeated herself, I honestly believe that. It was hers to win or lose and she lost it. He might have won anyway, I don't know, but she couldn't have done herself in much more effectively if she had tried.
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:44 PM
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17. I imagine the honeymoon will be over about one hour after Obama's inauguration.
It wouldn't be the end of any struggle, but the beginning of one.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:59 PM
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23. YES! Thats when the struggle begins!
:patriot:
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:08 PM
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24. feet to the fire
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:45 PM
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18. If you mean as president, I don't even know who the next president will be.
Unfortunately, John McCain is running even in the polls now with both Obama and Hillary Clinton.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:56 PM
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21. I am pretty sure that it will be Obama
I doubt McCain can beat him - but time will tell.
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NoBushSpokenHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 08:16 PM
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40. So, are you hinting that Hillary will be his VP? nt
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:10 PM
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25. Yes he will. He'll make decisions I don't agree with. But that's why
we're here, to push back. Anyone in that position will make decisions we don't agree with. It's the nature of that thankless job. But he'll also make decisions I'll applaud, and there's the difference.
He has OUR best interests at heart.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:42 PM
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30. I can take it
cause Obama is worth it.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:46 PM
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31. you assume I've given it to him to break.
Incorrect assumption. I have low expectations of both candidates. Assuming that we win, it will change some things for the better, but it's not going to mark the beginning of any progressive avalanche.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:52 PM
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33. My heart was broken in 1963 and 1968, It won't happen again.
Not this time.

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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:57 PM
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36. He's going to disapoint us all
With some of the decisions he'll make as President...but what President doesn't.

We aren't electing a God..he'll make mistakes but in the end I think his successes will outweigh his failures.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:58 PM
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37. I'm going to elope, Dad, and you CAN'T stop me
*sniff*
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 08:11 PM
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39. No, Obama is gonna WIN..but
thanks for playin' with no confidence.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 08:27 PM
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41. Life sucks and then you die...
Things will always be the way they always were, don't bother trying because you can't change anything. We are doomed because everyone else in this country is stupid, and nobody cares. Only fools dare to dream.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 09:20 PM
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43. Anybody who thinks Obama isn't a politician will get his/her heart broken
I know he's not perfect, that I'm not going to agree with him on a variety of issues and that he's going to compromise. But I'm supporting him because I think he is the best option.

And hell, if I were the type of person to get my heart broken by a politician, both Bill and Hillary would have broken it long ago.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 09:29 PM
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45. Probably. But at least he's not a proven pathological liar like clinton.
NT!

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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 10:17 PM
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47. He's emoblden my heart so far and the world iss with him. That is what we waited for.
Edited on Thu Apr-10-08 10:21 PM by cooolandrew
He encourages our inner center of love we all have this center it's the key to peace. I would rather see a candidate that encourages morelove than the reverse.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 10:18 PM
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48. Wow another psychic..
:rofl:
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