For the Barack Obama supporters who condone or agree with what Randi Rhodes said

[Aussie leftie]

regarding Hillary Clinton and Geraldine Ferraro. How would you feel if she spoke of Obama in the same disgusting way? I would go so far as saying that Barack Obama should apologize to both Clinton and Ferraro and distance himself from those obscene remarks.

[YDogg]

1. she's part of his campaign?

:wtf:

[Kool-aid antidote]

52. she's part of his campaign?

It was an Obama sponsored event. He can't do his usual Pontius Pilate routine on this one.

[leftofcool]

2. She isn't part of his campaign and even if she was

O supporters wouldn't care

[Connie_Corleone]

3. All these people wanting Obama to apologize for everyone else's words can kiss his ass.

Obama has to apologize for every person who says something negative about Hillary now?

I guess Obama will have to apologize for my comment too.

Get out the pots and pans and protest at Obama headquarters.

:eyes:

[Auntie Bush]

57. " kiss his ass." Hell no!

He'd need to apologize to a brazillion people. That ought to tell you something.

[babylonsister]

4. What part of comedy didn't you get, and this wasn't said on the radio.

Do you suggest we silence everyone with an opinion? How about attacking Rush or Hannity? They say shit like this on a regular basis, but not in a comedy routine.

[sellitman]

28. I don't think Randy should lower herself to RW Radio standards.

I'm an Obama supporter but that wasn't comedy.

Sorry Sis...I gotta disagree.

[crankychatter]

5. he should apologize for what a political shock jock said in a standup routine?

are you fucking smoking crack?

[Lint Head]

6. Why would Obama apologize for someone else's free speech?

:dem:

[BattyDem]

7. Why should Obama apologize for something Randi Rhodes said?

:wtf:

She doesn't work for him! Does he have to apologize and distance himself from every negative remark made against Hillary, no matter who it came from? :eyes:

[FrenchieCat]

8. She doesn't need to.....there are enough folks saying terrible things

about Obama on our side.

Lanny Davis is one that I come with off the top of my head....and I didn't even bother to do anything more than shake my head and feel pity.

[JoFerret]

9. Fair point

.

[Symarip]

10. HAHAHA

Yeah. Obama should apologize to Ferraro. Maybe you should do a little stand up when you get a chance.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

11. Then Hillary Clinton should have to apologize and distance herself from a lot of people as well. nt

[baldguy]

12. This whole incident was ginned up so AAR could get rid of Randi

What's disgusting is that so many people have fallen for it.

[NanceGreggs]

13. I would go far as saying ...

... you really have no idea what you're talking about - and it shows.

[Aussie leftie]

33. After reconsidering my post, I now feel that I was a bit hasty

in suggesting Obama apologies for what Rhodes had said during her routine, but I think that it would be a nice gesture for him to denounce it. After all, Clinton distanced herself from what Ferraro had said. I think that so-called democrat supporters (Rhodes) aren't doing their cause any good when they speak of candidates from the same party in that way.

[NanceGreggs]

34. It would also be a nice gesture ...

... for Hillary to 'denounce' her statement that McCain is a better choice for the presidency than Obama -- who, after all, is "just a speech he gave in 2002".

Yes, I agree that so-called Democratic supporters aren't doing their cause any good when they speak of candidates of their own party that way - or when so-called Democratic candidates do it.

[Eric Condon]

40. The way Clinton "distanced herself" from what Ferraro said was tepid at best.

And if anything, that situation was worse, because Ferraro kept digging herself deeper into a hole by being so defiant about it.

[hfojvt]

41. you mean something like this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5449098&mesg_id=5449098

“I just want to say something about some of my supporters . . . a lot of them have gotten really excited about being involved in the campaign and for some they tell me they have been waiting for a long time for this kind of campaign to come by. Sometimes they get overly enthusiastic and I would like them to be careful how they talk about those that we are running against. I respect Senator Clinton and I respect Senator McCain. The issues that we are going to face and the big fight that lays ahead of us mean that we are going to have to be clear thinking and cannot be sidetracked by letting our passions get ahead of us.”

[Catherine Vincent]

14. Some of the Obama supporters don't really care because it was said about Hillary.

They probably defended Imus and his "nappy headed hos" comment. And if Imus said it about Michele Obama, they wouldn't like it.

[AnnieBW]

15. I don't condone it

It was disgusting and obscene. I suppose that she was trying to be funny, but it didn't read that way. It had no place in a public forum.

Now if she'd called McSame a f*cking wh*re, that would be a different story!

[emilyg]

25. Agree.

[PoliticalAmazon]

46. Any other types of speech you'd like to outlow in a "public forum"? n/t

[AnnieBW]

51. Name-calling on fellow Dems

It's juvenile and so... Republican.

[GoneOffShore]

16. Can you tell us one thing, please?

Exactly how far up your ass is your head?

[HCE SuiGeneris]

17. My! Aren't you complex?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=5287777

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=5441924#5442268

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=5418744#5423424

Fascinating.

[RememberWellstone]

18. Good point.

They would cry racism or that she is lying or that they are just trying bring Obama down (Obama is already down btw).

[Webster Green]

19. She can say whatever the hell she wants. Freedom of speech.

She was correct to call the corporate whores what they are.

Fuck Air America! & fuck the fascist takeover of everything!

Randi is back on Green 960 in San Francisco on Monday!:smoke:

[Tarheel_Dem]

20. Yeah...and Randi gives a shit about what you "think" about as much

as I do. I am so sick of the "whining" victimhood of HRC & her supporters. :puke:

[newmajority]

21. I was disgusted by what Ferraro and Clinton HAVE said about Obama.

So was Randi, which was why she said what she said. I've said much worse about Hillary than she did, in recent weeks, but nobody had a camera rolling when I did so.

[Auntie Bush]

58. Well you should be ashamed of yourself. n/t

[Demit]

22. Obama is already distanced from what someone else said—by virtue of not having been the one who

said it. This business of demanding that a person apologize for someone else's comments is absurd.

[DarienComp]

23. You annoy me. I demand that Hillary apologize for you.

:P

This is a fun new game.

[VenusRising]

53. Old game. New package.

:rofl:

[stevedeshazer]

24. Nice try.

[AZBlue]

26. Should Hillary Clinton apologize for anything negative you've said about Barack Obama?

Makes as much sense.

[TTUBatfan2008]

27. politicians being called whores is not the same as calling one the n-word...

A whore has quite a few meanings. Now, she should have clarified what she meant, which was referring to Hillary's selling out to the right wing during this campaign. Hanging out with Fox News is selling out (Ferraro). Hanging out with Richard Mellon Scaiffe is selling out (Clinton), particularly when Scaiffe smeared the Clintons for a very long time and said some incredibly hurtful things about Hillary over the years. Rhodes' biggest mistake was not using language that was clearer. Or perhaps she did mean that they were whores in the prostitution sense, in which case she deserves plenty of ridicule for that kind of comment. But I have a hard time believing that a woman would use that word to describe female politicians in that manner. She's a feminist herself, so I do not think that was her intent. But she should have clarified what she meant. Since she didn't, she left it wide open for interpretation and many people interpreted that she meant it in the other way.

[grantcart]

29. I ran a stop sign yesterday should he get involved in that too?

[azmouse]

30. That does it. I'm not voting for Randi.

And you can't change my mind. x(

[Cleita]

31. Why bring Barack Obama into this?

It's about the Clintons and Ferraro. If Obama debases himself, I'm sure he will be criticized as well by those who are fed up with this political BS. I certainly will. There are no sacred cows in my world.

[Usrename]

32. If he were proudly whoring himself out like them, I wouldn't complain.

That is the point, isn't it?

[TexanDem]

35. Should Hillary have to repudiate your warped sense of justice?

Why in the heck should he have to apologize or repudiate EVERYTHING somebody says that SOMEBODY else doesn't like? This whole reject/repudiate has gotten just plain silly!

[DearAbby]

36. You don't have to agree with her...

or me, or anyone...but defend their right to say it. People have given their lives so we can have free speech. Randi has the right to express herself. This Dixie chick style attacks have to end. It smacks of a fascist state, people who are black listed, for simply expressing themselves.

People setting out to ruin people's lives and careers because you don't like what they say...It's wrong.

We on DU, have called politicians whores for many years. Men and women. There are more than one definitions to the word "Whore" I dont see what Randi said was any different.

If you don't like Randi Rhodes, there are KNOBS on your radio...when you turn one of those knobs you can change the station. Or you can turn the other knob and you can turn the radio off...see how it works?

[MonkeyFunk]

37. They'd go nuts, demand that she be fired

like they did when Limbaugh referred to Obama as "halfrican-American".

[Spider Jerusalem]

38. Agree with it, no

condone it, yes, because I think the First Amendment principle of freedom of speech matters, even when what is said is something I may not personally disagree with.

[Life Long Dem]

39. I would say she needs to disown Penn from herself.

Then their is Bill making deals in Colombia on free trade and stocking it into the Clinton's joint bank account. She will need to disown him as well.

As far as Hillary goes. I want a leader and not a victim and one who has ethics.

[BuyingThyme]

42. If you can't call a politician a fucking whore, you might as well

make comedy illegal.

[Saturday]

43. On DU anything bad said about Hillary or ANYONE associated

with her is fine. No one can say anything about Obama though. It's in the DU rule book. :sarcasm:

[jazzjunkysue]

44. Obama sticks to his beliefs, instead of selling out. That's the point.

Randi was right about Hillary. And it was a closed party. That's how comics talk in closed shows. She didn't do it on air.

Or, they wanted Randi to quit precicely because she hasn't been supporting hillary on air.

Yes, the Clinton power goes that far, and goes against free speech.

[PylesMalfunction]

48. I really don't see where you get that.

Just going down the last 20 threads, I can find plenty of trash talking about both candidates. :eyes:

[PoliticalAmazon]

45. If Obama was a whore, I'd call him one myself. Some of us...

...aren't so unethical that we have one standard for the people we like and another for the people we don't like.

[PatGund]

dupe

[PatGund]

47. Why??

It's not like she's part of his campaign or anything

[TomBall Democrat]

49. I say to YOU

grow up!

Your candidate is the most offensive witch I've ever seen on the campaign trail.

She's shrill, emotional and she lies.

And her supporters are without exception devoted to her based on her gender.

They're annoying and so is she.

It's a radio program - grow the fuck up.

[Auntie Bush]

50. Nice post! I agree.

Good to see someone who is fair minded and can think for themselves and point out right or wrong when they see it and not just practice blind obedience and defend people who shouldn't be defended. Everyone...whether you are an Obama supporter or a Clinton supporter should disapprove of Randie. IMHO

[Aussie leftie]

56. It seems to me that the most obscene comments in this campaign

have been aimed at Hillary Clinton. I have yet to be convinced that the term "Fucking whore" is not a sexist, degrading term that is aimed at the female gender. If Barack Obama was referred to as a "negro" all hell would break loose, let alone the other "n" word.

If the Clinton supporters used degrading terms to describe Obama, I would be disgusted with them as well.

[otohara]

54. He Would, If Asked

I really believe that. He fired Samantha Power for calling Hillary a monster. but you must realize Randi is not part of his campaign, so this isn't something he has to do without being asked.

Look, I'm an Obama supporter who is disgusted by what Randi Rhodes said and even more disgusted that she has rebounded at a new gig with basically the same coverage as she had before. It pisses me off that we get furious about what the wingnuts over at Fox, Limbaugh, Beck and what others that are either disgusting or lies, it's reported on Media Matters, Olberman's Worst Person, Dan Abrams, etc... but there was not one word mentioned by either of these people. Newsweek magazine had something - not much, but it put Rhodes in a bad light.

The real liberal media overlooked with great ease the disgusting remarks made by Randi Rhodes.

[Political Heretic]

55. If someone at a private event, unconnected to the campaign as part of a comedy set said..

..obama was a fucking whore, I wouldn't like it, but I wouldn't expect him or her to be suspended by their company for their comment for god's sake.

I'm more of a grown up than that. I've got thick skin.

[JoFerret]

59. Obama should not apologise

but RR needs to