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anamnua Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:28 AM
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Obama the next Dubya?
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:30 AM
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1. Nope, that honor goes to Hillary, who supports Dubya's foreign policy tragedies. n/t
n/t
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:30 AM
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2. Epic Fail!
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:02 PM
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72. Coffee... all... over... keyboard! DAMN YOU!
:rofl:
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:31 AM
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3. That article reads like it was written by a high-school student.
Here is a sampling:

"In the middle of what is the potential biggest job in his career, Obama takes time off to go to the Virgin Islands. Bush is know for his excessive vacationing especially in times of crisis, is that what we have to look forward to with Obama?"

Great analysis, not.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:54 AM
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49. I *heart* run on sentences!
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datopbanana Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:31 AM
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4. im glad to see clinton supporters immersing themselves in such intelligent reading material
i now know what sources it takes to get twisted enough to vote for her.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:31 AM
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5. Only a fool would post that to support their arguments.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:32 AM
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6. Simple article....
...only a simpleton would buy.

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datopbanana Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:36 AM
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12. thankfully for the writer, there are 59Million of them
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:41 AM
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16. LOL....
...I forgot about that cover. But...they have to be as dumb as the Dubya voters to not see through all the bullshit, IMO.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:34 AM
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7. This one REALLY deserves to SINK.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:55 AM
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23. I completely disagree
this one deserves to be kicked, and mercilessly mocked.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:20 AM
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26. cali, do you think Obama smirks just like Bush does?
Personally, I think his smirk is eerily similar to Bush's, especially when he's doing it to Hillary.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:32 AM
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34. I honestly don't see him smirk that much....
Usually Obama is glaring at Clinton.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:35 AM
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38. He does it a lot. He also did it often in the debates, just like Bush used to do
He smirks more often when he thinks he has the advantage. I guess he feels his cockiest then.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:42 AM
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44. Exactly...
Either it is driven by insecurity or over confidence. Either way...it is ugly.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:16 PM
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79. No, he feels more cocky when
he holds his head up and looks down his nose. Even bush* with his bow legs...elbows out didn't look down his nose at people.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 02:33 PM
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83. i guess its official now. some people here would rather find more
worth in a war criminal dipshit than the probable next president. delusional.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 02:29 PM
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81. ha. this is so childish. smirks like bush. not likely. maybe we can
talk about his shoes next and maybe how come he won't sit at our table in the cafeteria.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:40 AM
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43. I think you're deranged by hate. honestly. And I don't think
either Hillary or Barack have anything in common with W, aside from the fact that all three went
to either Harvard or Yale or both and that they're all politicians. I think it's disgusting to compare Hillary or Barack to that waR criminal.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:44 AM
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47. Not an ounce of hate in my body, cali, but I understand, since your a devout Obama groupie
so I won't hold it against you. :)
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:52 AM
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48. Unl;ike you, I'm neither deranged by hate or a slobbering
groupie. You've demonstrated conclusively that you're addled by both uncritical albeit bizarre devotion to your "goddess" and rabid hate of Obama. I'll forgive you because you're sick and need professional help.

:hi:
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:55 AM
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50. Looks like IGNORED is having another bad day.
Nice of you to be so kind to IGNORED!

:hi:
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:05 AM
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57. I know you peeked. All you "ignore" braggarts peek. lol
BTW, ignoring the cold hard truth is not healthy.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:08 PM
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77. Yes ignored must be having a hateful day
That's why they wind up ignored by me.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:03 AM
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56. "Unl;ike you, I'm neither deranged by hate or a slobbering groupie"
I didn't say you're "slobbering", just that you like everyone to think that you are Obama's number 1 groupie, which I'm sure that you are. Why are you so embarrassed about that? I mean, it is kind of sad that you're such a devout groupie of a politician, but at least you don't try to hide it, so I will give you credit for that.

You should try to be more open minded, though, about this race, like I am. It's not healthy for you to swoon over one candidate so much while totally blocking out the other one, considering they're both Democrats.

:hi:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:09 AM
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58. *snicker*
now you claim you know what I think without my having said I think any such thing? Sorry, snaky, I actually criticize Obamam, and unlike you, I don't write love poems to the candidate I support, or confuse him with a deity.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:15 AM
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59. ahh, so that's why you're in such a foul mood? Because you didn't approve of my "love poem"? lol
If I knew that, I would've written a poem for Obama, too, just for you :)
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:22 AM
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63. actually, I'm in a good mood today
and I thought your love poem was kind of cute in a goofy way.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:36 AM
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66. good to hear.
and I thought your love poem was kind of cute in a goofy way


Thanks. Thats all it was meant to be. ;)
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:33 AM
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35. ..
....:evilgrin:
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:34 AM
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8. 42 the next 41?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:34 AM
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9. god, I'm sick of stupid provocateurs
who rifle through websites looking for the most idiotic flamebait they can find.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:49 AM
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:31 AM
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32. LOL...ok
Do you have a problem with the Canadian Obama delegation here at DU?
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:36 AM
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10. I'm going to go out on a limb and say IBTL.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:36 AM
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11. I'm going to go out on a limb and say IBTL. nt
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:37 AM
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13. anamnua the next entry in my ignore list?
Yep.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:01 PM
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71. Who cares what you do?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:38 AM
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14. this is how mind bogglingly stupid this article is:
"The similarities don’t end with misleading the public and supporting oil companies. As Obama lost several important states at the end of February and beginning of March, instead of forging on like Hillary did, he took a vacation with his family. Could he not take the pressure? Maybe he had a boil like the one Bush grew during the Florida debacle of 2000 when he was faced with the possible loss of the election.

In the middle of what is the potential biggest job in his career, Obama takes time off to go to the Virgin Islands. Bush is know for his excessive vacationing especially in times of crisis, is that what we have to look forward to with Obama?"
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 02:36 PM
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84. what was it? two or three days during spring break with his kids?
I would rather him be on his a game after a rest, taking care of his wife and little children than not. this article is demented.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:40 AM
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15. "Obama may not be lying but he’s misleading the public"
Ouch!
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:43 AM
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17. Ok, Obama people is this true?
You may ask, how is Obama doing this? In his most recent commercials Obama says that he has never taken money from an oil company, insinuating that the other candidates may have. However, no one can legally take money from an oil company for their campaign, which means none of them have.

What Obama doesn’t tell the public is he has received $213,000 in donations from oil company employees according to Senator Hillary Clinton’s staff. People that work for the oil companies also happen to be involved with Obama’s campaign.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:46 AM
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19. You are really stretching this....
....why shouldn't someone who works for an oil company be allowed to donate to a candidate of his/her choice without some asshole assuming that the oil company itself support the candidate?

Sheesh....:eyes:
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:42 AM
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45. So fucking what?
Christ, this pisses me off. Are citizens only allowed to get involved if they work in the "approved" places? Please provide us a list of the kind of industries that are not allowed to participate in Democratic politics.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:44 AM
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18. The writer is a Hillary fan
Like many women before her, is Hillary’s obstacle her sex?

By Judi Panasik
The Weekly Recorder
April 11, 2008

Last weekend I took a trip to the City of Brotherly Love, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and ironically was subjected to a weekend filled with feminism. It was on this trip that I gained more respect for the obstacles faced by Senator Hillary Clinton as a woman. And although Hillary never brings up the gender that plagues her, the reality of it is in America, women still remain the overlooked majority.

In other countries around the world women have been elected to equal positions for decades. Margaret Thatcher in England, Imelda Marcos in the Philippines, and in India where women have less standing then men Indira Gandhi became Prime Minister in 1964. Over the last 200 years, England has been mainly ruled by Queens. Why then is America, the land of opportunity and equality, not ready for a woman?

Hillary would not have been my first choice for the first female presidential or democratic candidate. The truth be told, I swore to my friends I would never vote for her. Like most people that I talk to, as a feminist I’ve held a grudge over her commitment to her husband after endless sexual scandals. I was bothered by the fact that she would be the first woman to represent women. Over the last week, while researching an artist whose exhibit I was going to view, I saw striking similarities between the two women. That, along with my recent encounters with Hillary, has changed my view of the woman that she is.


http://www.weekly-recorder.com/column/041108clinton.htm

"Hillary never brings up the gender that plagues her..."



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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:06 AM
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25. Actually very good article--thanks
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:47 AM
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20. such crap.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:52 AM
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22. Hillary Clinton ...the next wicked witch?
stupid op ...stupid source
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:02 AM
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:24 AM
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27. Interesting.

I've also come to find Obama to be annoyingly similar to Boosh in many ways, several of which the article mentions. It is thoroughly amazing that the press has never said a word to my knowledge about the uniter-not-a-divider similarity in the rhetoric and campaign strategery of Boosh and Obama.

He also talks like Boosh in interviews - kinda slow, halting with gaps of silence, and sometimes just as non sequitur. Not in speeches - those he is very good at, but the interviews drive me up the wall.

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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:22 AM
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64. I like Senator Obama,
when I read his speeches,but I find his ministerial cadence irritating too.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 02:39 PM
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86. okay. if we are going to plaster together how our guys are like the
war-criminal hyena in the White House, I offer the following similarity between Boosh and Clinton: they both lied about their military service.

Happy?
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:28 AM
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28. That's very likely
Owned by corporate America

Big ego, thin skinned, defensive

Arrogant

Resents women - has the same mother/father issues

Inexperienced and insecure - vulnerable to manipulation by others

Delegator

Focus is on style not substance - will gladly trade good PR for good public policy

Combative personality

Did I say inexperienced and willing to be manipulated?



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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:30 AM
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29. Good analogy, especially points 1-9
:thumbsup:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:32 AM
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33. you really have become deranged
by your hate of Obama, if you believe this malicious crap.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:38 AM
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41. I dont hate Obama & you know it. Your just saying that because you want to think your his #1 groupie
and you like being overprotective of him. Nice try, though, cali
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:30 AM
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30. Ozark Dem
takes another messy dump in GDP leaving behind a stinking pile of stupid and dishonest.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:30 AM
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31. Wow - many of the things you cite could also be attributed to both Clintons. nt
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:36 AM
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39. Not at all
and they've both been in the WH and Senate and have been tested under the worst kinds of pressure and attacks. And they still get a quality job done.

More importantly, whatever anyone may say about them, they govern with the idea of watching out for the best interests of all Americans. That's what puts them above the others.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:43 AM
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46. Can they heal injured swans with a simple touch, too?
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 03:00 PM
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88. they've been tested all right. under fire. under cover(s).
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:34 AM
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:01 AM
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51. Ding!
:thumbsup:
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:03 AM
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55. !
:patriot:
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 02:59 PM
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87. you shouldn't talk about Bill Clinton that way.
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:35 AM
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37. Not really. He only admires
Shrub 1, raygun ronnie, and mcstain. And he wants to get back to those types of Foreign relationship doctrines. You know, unprovoked wars and such.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:36 AM
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40. No, Obama has a brain
Also, there is (thankfully) only one man as evil as Cheney.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:39 AM
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42. Oh no! People who work for oil companies donated to him!
Private citizens who happen to work for the oil industry sent him money! HE'S A TOOL OF BIG OIL!!!! I'm a Defense contractor, so I guess I shouldn't donate, since that will mean he's a TOOL OF THE MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX!!!!

And I guess the opinions of all the people against the Iraq War from the beginning don't count, since they weren't in Congress. Damn. I'm screwed again. I'm glad Judi is letting us know what the "truth" is.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:07 PM
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76. It's okay, I donate and I'm a tool of the foreign auto industry
:)
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:02 AM
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52. Too close to the truth for most people in DG P, aka Pro Obama Land...
interesting read, thanks and WELCOME to D.U.

K&R
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:02 AM
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53. Obama the next Carter more like. But this is blue-skying as we will have McCain.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:03 AM
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54. Admit it. You wrote that, right? NT
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:22 AM
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62. LOL
It reads like something my 11yr old would write. :rofl:
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:26 AM
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65. Wow. You stay classy, Hillary fans!
Keep flinging every nugget of shit you can find, and then when Obama supporters stand up for him you back off and start sobbing just like your wreck of a candidate.

Christ, you people are just sad.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:38 AM
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67. When BHO supporters stand up it ain't all fresh & fly...it's a knife fight don't shit yerself...
It is at times just such as this I'm thankful for the work we do. Cause I'm leaving for the day. You can sit here juke & smack talk all day long...have fun.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:40 AM
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68. K AND R
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:50 AM
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69. I love the smell of desperation in the morning...
it smells like....victory for Obama.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:56 AM
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70. Of course not. Dubya was a false god.
We'd never shave our heads and sell flowers in the airport concourse for him.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:02 PM
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73. K
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damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:04 PM
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74. All I can say is...
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:13 PM
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80. Hah!

Consider that gif liberated.

:)

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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:05 PM
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75. Kudos on acknowledging Obama will be the next president.
That's the first step in your recovery.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:09 PM
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78. Yes, Obama will be the next Prezzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 02:31 PM
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82. too bad of the two candidates left standing on Dem side it was Hill who fell for Bush's lies.
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 02:38 PM
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85. That article is crap. Catchy title, but completely unsubstantiated in the body.
"Obama is just like Bush", followed by a bunch of drivel that fails miserably to make the argument.

I'd give it an "F" if it were a college paper.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 04:01 PM
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89. Obama has much in common with Bush
There are also key differences. (Of course.) But the similarities are disturbing.
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