Polls Mathematically

[Ilithiad]

I am a hillary supporter and wish for her to get the nomination, but in order for that to happen she would need to win every state with a 65% for hillary and 35% for obama except PA which she will win 55% and North carolina for Obama 55%. Factor all of that in she will need 63% or the Superdelagates. If every last state is pretty much even or close to even which it will be then she will need 73% if the superdelagates to win the nomination, which is unlikely. Hillary cannot win outright unless florida and Michigan are seated, which looks unlikely. In light of this I will vote for Obama to be our next president in November only if he chooses Hillary as his running mate. If he does not despite my distaste for another 4 or 8 years of republican I will vote for MaCain because he has far more experience to lead this country.

[ORDem]

1. Welcome to DU. n/t

:kick:

[Zachstar]

2. Why are you at DU then?

Clinton is not going to be VP

It is McCain BTW

[Ilithiad]

5. His name

Cant even spell his name right. Shows you how much I want him to be president right? I dont want mccain but Id rather have some experience in the white house than a good talker...Obama has a message of change and that is honorable, but he does not have the political experience to fulfill that message of change.

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

3. If experience is what is important to you, why not just vote for McCain in any case?

After all, he has more experience than Clinton & Obama put together.

[Ilithiad]

6. Because given the choice

Over HRC and Mccain I would vote for Hillary because she also wants to bring about change and has the washington inside experience to accomplish some if not all of her change agenda. I cannot in good conscience give the presidency of the United states to an inexperienced person

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

7. And yet she couldn't get healtcare reform passed with a Democratic majority in congress

Hillary doesn't work with people, she tries to force her will upon them. She works top-down, by dictating what should be done and expecting subordinates to follow her lead. This is perfectly evidenced in how she tried to pass healthcare reform, by holding closed-door meetings and only allowing input from those who were already in control.

Obama, on the other hand, knows how to work with other people to accomplish his agenda. You can see this in the bipartisan bills he has cosponsored and the way he has run his campaign, from the ground up.

[BattyDem]

12. Experience?

He doesn't know the difference between the Sunni and the Shia. link

He admitted he "doesn't really understand economics" link

He doesn't even know what his OWN position is on contraception and had to ask an aide to find out for him! link

If THAT is the kind of experience he will bring to the White House, we're in big trouble!

[Hepburn]

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[0007]

8. A real genuine Wisenheimer, eh?

[AllentownJake]

9. Hmmm

I guess 35 post. I was way off with the guy last night making 50.

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

10. welcome to DU. you'll find we're smarter than posters at freerepublic.com.

[kid a]

11. Welcome to DU - Please see this thread...particularly this section:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5447295&mesg_id=5447295

"People who claim they would vote for John McCain over either of the two remaining Democratic candidates are either not progressive or not thinking straight. If you post this, you are basically daring the mods to give you a tombstone."

[Ilithiad]

13. Party loyalty

Dont give me that party loyalty crap.

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

15. lookie here, lots of us ain't crazy about voting for the "other" D candidate, but nobody's stupid

....enough to fall for voting for McCain. There's still time to go back to freeperland before your account gets cold.









ed: typo

[AllentownJake]

16. You made it past 35! See if you can make it to 50?

Your on a website that has the Word DEMOCRATIC in it...therefore it's about the party not the candidates...if you want to talk only about Hillary and how you'll either write her in or vote for the GOP...I have a place for you and you can chat all day long with the echo chamber there.

Only requirement..you need a pot and a wooden spoon.

[phrigndumass]

18. How long do you think they'll last by calling Skinner's words "crap"

:rofl:

[goldcanyonaz]

14. Welcome to DU!

:kick:

[quantass]

17. Welcome #999 -- But the problem is if Obama takes Clinton as VP then he would be a hypocrit since

Hillary represents the status-quo while Obama wants to change the status-quo....She represents everything that is wrong about America...just recall the recent Colombia trade deal behind the backs of working-class people (e.g. PA)...

I tihnk it foolish to vote for McCain unless you are a masochist and love pain for a 3rd-Bush term...that doesnt make any logical sense.

I thnk you have wrapped your emotions aroud the idea of a woman in a higher office than you do the idea of a better America.